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Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:22 am**

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Who do you think went out of their way to topple Delegates from obscure, unknown regions just because they voted for this proposal?

ffs it doesn't take a mysterious "elite" to delegate topple shrew it just takes a decently competent raiding force and some telegram stamps, if that

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:46 am**

Fascists trying to lecture us on the principles of democracy. How convenient. :roll:

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:05 am**

South Reinkalistan wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Who do you think went out of their way to topple Delegates from obscure, unknown regions just because they voted for this proposal?

ffs it doesn't take a mysterious "elite" to delegate topple shrew it just takes a decently competent raiding force and some telegram stamps, if that

Either or on that front, given the usual state of endorsements on most delegates you need half a dozen people at most (more people means more delegates that can be hit). Counter campaigning can also be done entirely without stamps, if you just tg those approving individually.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:20 am**

As people have likely noticed, this proposal "failed" to make quorum.

Why? A majority of GCRs: The Pacific, The North Pacific, The West Pacific, The East Pacific, and Balder raided small regions to force a change in their WA Delegate and remove their approval from this resolution.

The resolution was a single approval short of quorum shortly before the major update of 10/04/2020, however, after a slanderous counter-campaign and a series of raids on supporting regional delegates for four consecutive updates, it failed yesterday with approximately 30 approvals remaining.

Had it not been for this voting maniuplation, "Condemn The World Assembly Elite" would have reached the voting floor of the Security Council over 48 hours ago, before the terribly flawed "Commend Kuriko".

The following image shows the proposal a single approval short of quorum:

This series of images shows the number of Delegate approvals reducing after each update following the raiding attempts.

The Black Hawks also participated in the later two raids. So much for apolitical. This was possibly as retaliation for my draft to "Repeal: Condemn The Black Hawks".

It's terribly ironic that a majority of GCRs are going around knocking off small region's WA Delegates to silence their approvals, in order to prove that the WA Elite doesn't exist. Yet in doing so, they directly violate regional sovereignty and prove what they are so desperately trying to hide: if you're a small region, or small nation, your opinion doesn't matter. Only the Elite matters.

I can only imagine this was the case for two reasons, considering the amount of effort expended; a) the WA Elite is afraid of the consequences on their continued dominance over the World Assembly if it were to make quorum, yet alone pass, and, b) they wanted to force through "Commend Kuriko" first, to honour their corrupt mate for who they rigged the Sec-Gen election.

We will not be silenced. It is very clear that the majority of WA Delegates - the real WA Delegates of NationStates, not the corrupt GCR Delegates of the WA Elite - want this proposal to be voted on, and consequently want to see real change in the World Assembly. This proposal will be resubmitted in the near future, we are confident that we will be able to reach quorum within a single update to prevent a repeated abuse of the WA approval system that went on here.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:29 am**

Anarchitaria wrote:Fascists trying to lecture us on the principles of democracy. How convenient.

Ahahahah. Original funi. Me like funy.

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Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:01 am**

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:We will not be silenced.

Yet you just were.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:25 am**

As was discovered during the April Fools event... It's really fun to deny you and your region what you want. You guys always come up with a salty conspiratorial rant. It's great.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:59 am**

Yokiria wrote:As was discovered during the April Fools event... It's really fun to deny you and your region what you want. You guys always come up with a salty conspiratorial rant. It's great.

Care to point out the "consiprational" part of my post? You know, as opposed to the entirety of the post which is demonstrably true.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:11 am**

Brooo do you see what I see? No, this can't be real... Omg dude... Bro I think you just posted cringe bro. Smh. This is going to have consequences my friend. You gonna lose subscriber!!!! Bro you gonna lose subscriber. Don't you realize? You gonna lose subscriber! Go back to your cringe subscriber on cringe.com and cry like a cringe baby. Even your cringe subscriber are going to lose subscriber. That's how cringe you are. Have fun losing your fucking subscriber.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:24 am**

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Snip

The New California Republic wrote:It's just weird. They have decided to revel in being hated (as their dispatches and main region page show), but then are salty when that hate has actual consequences for them? Something doesn't quite square there...

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:34 am**

Blood Wine wrote:Brooo do you see what I see? No, this can't be real... Omg dude... Bro I think you just posted cringe bro. Smh. This is going to have consequences my friend. You gonna lose subscriber!!!! Bro you gonna lose subscriber. Don't you realize? You gonna lose subscriber! Go back to your cringe subscriber on cringe.com and cry like a cringe baby. Even your cringe subscriber are going to lose subscriber. That's how cringe you are. Have fun losing your fucking subscriber.

*** Warned for flamebaiting ***

You may want to steer clear of CCD-related threads in future, as you're evidently struggling to behave in them.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:39 am**

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Yokiria wrote:As was discovered during the April Fools event... It's really fun to deny you and your region what you want. You guys always come up with a salty conspiratorial rant. It's great.

Care to point out the "consiprational" part of my post? You know, as opposed to the entirety of the post which is demonstrably true.

Why everything gotta be a conspiracy, maybe everyone just agrees they don’t like your region

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:26 am**

The fact that condemn this game passed , and this probably wont, based solely on the difference in popularity of the author, shows how corrupt and utterly lost the Security Council is. Pass it and prove to them there is no elite, and the self proclaimed pop stars of the game take the high road.

Or you could prove them right and keep ignoring hem, which is my guess.

I do appreciate the continued hypocrisy by many of the same players being pointed out in the bright light of this beautiful forum.

I fully support, less due to content or movement, but because of the little moral trap sprung upon this group of players.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:08 am**

Hmm. I was wondering why would West Pacific, a region with an experienced military, raid us, a region with an active founder and a non-executive WAD with literally only the required WA RO powers.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:40 am**

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:The Black Hawks also participated in the later two raids. So much for apolitical. This was possibly as retaliation for my draft to "Repeal: Condemn The Black Hawks".
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No, we screwed around with delegates because we don't like you, and are under no obligations to be apolitical like you seem to think we are.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:54 am**

Lord Dominator wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:The Black Hawks also participated in the later two raids. So much for apolitical. This was possibly as retaliation for my draft to "Repeal: Condemn The Black Hawks".
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No, we screwed around with delegates because we don't like you, and are under no obligations to be apolitical like you seem to think we are.

Would be pretty cool if you left this stuff between you two then.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:06 am**

Trigori wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:No, we screwed around with delegates because we don't like you, and are under no obligations to be apolitical like you seem to think we are.

Would be pretty cool if you left this stuff between you two then.

We're raiders, asking us to not raid regions in general is a fool's errand.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:14 am**

Correction, asking TBH to not do or do something comes with strings attached, red tape, and a heavy price paid later. They do not just raid, they add pork to the deals.

Because they are run by members of the WA Elit of course. More evidence for the Codemn!

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:31 am**

Lord Dominator wrote:
Trigori wrote:Would be pretty cool if you left this stuff between you two then.

We're raiders, asking us to not raid regions in general is a fool's errand.

I'll tell you. Raiding's fine. The proposal is stupid. I don't care what my WAD does. But raiding to kick off delegates supporting a WA proposal so it doesn't reach quorum is pretty damn greasy.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:46 am**

Trigori wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:We're raiders, asking us to not raid regions in general is a fool's errand.

I'll tell you. Raiding's fine. The proposal is stupid. I don't care what my WAD does. But raiding to kick off delegates supporting a WA proposal so it doesn't reach quorum is pretty damn greasy.

Agreed, but...

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:50 am**

Give up. I won't pass.

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:13 am**

Trigori wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:We're raiders, asking us to not raid regions in general is a fool's errand.

I'll tell you. Raiding's fine. The proposal is stupid. I don't care what my WAD does. But raiding to kick off delegates supporting a WA proposal so it doesn't reach quorum is pretty damn greasy.

And...?

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:15 am**

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:We will not be silenced

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:40 am**

Sedgistan wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:Brooo do you see what I see? No, this can't be real... Omg dude... Bro I think you just posted cringe bro. Smh. This is going to have consequences my friend. You gonna lose subscriber!!!! Bro you gonna lose subscriber. Don't you realize? You gonna lose subscriber! Go back to your cringe subscriber on cringe.com and cry like a cringe baby. Even your cringe subscriber are going to lose subscriber. That's how cringe you are. Have fun losing your fucking subscriber.

*** Warned for flamebaiting ***

You may want to steer clear of CCD-related threads in future, as you're evidently struggling to behave in them.

it's a well known copypasta but okay

Posted: **Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:54 am**

Blood Wine wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:*** Warned for flamebaiting ***

You may want to steer clear of CCD-related threads in future, as you're evidently struggling to behave in them.

it's a well known copypasta but okay

See: viewtopic.php?p=36914823#p36914823

And take any further discussion of this to the Moderation forum.

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