Kuriko wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:OP - your proposal needs some significant work on grammar, structure and formatting, but fundamentally I support what you're going for here.
Once you've tided it up, you're free to pop into the CCD and gain a couple of endorsements to submit it yourself.
Excuse me, this is wrong, there was absolutely nothing unethical about our attempt to take over TNP. It's just politics. If TNP can't take politics they shouldnt be playing a politics simulator game.
This is also verifiably wrong. Our self-commend attempts were a large part of what led to our shiny Liberation badge.
I know you can't respond after your forum ban, but if you want to help the OP with this be my guest
I'll just sit here silently laughing, and if it passes I'll laugh even harder.
I suppose it's good to know I've gained such a following that the WA Sec-Gen now follows my forum posts around like a puppy.
Chavandriclanderpleistan wrote:Even if Joco had made it into the top five, previous round results indicated that an actual win for Joco was extremely implausible. This fact should mostly render the points of "rigging" as moot, whether or not it was truly the case.
I mean, Codemn a nation for allegedly keeping someone out of round 4, when they had already lost the previous 3 by a far margin? This is the kind of petty energy we want in the SC!
It'll be a good resolution when you put more deliberate jokes in it, to match the circumstances! I only laughed at the serious parts this time round, sorry.
As campaign manager for Jocospor 2020, I also did some statistical analysis. We predicted seeing a big uplift in the final round as many smaller nations couldn't enter - we would have moped up almost all of the anti-establishment vote. Of course, it was still highly unlikely we would have won, but against four candidates all splitting votes and a vote rigging scandal to report on with no time for the WA Elite to spin it... we would have had a shot.
Jocospor was heavily gaining each round, as detailed in my dispatch:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1341953From my own data (not shown there), at the end of each round Jocospor had:
Round 1 - 150 votes
Round 2 - 240 votes
Round 3 - 330 votes (with a late campaign telegram)
Again, as campaign manager, my best estimate at the time would have been around 600-800 votes in the General but there's a lot of variance there. It's very possible we could have won.
Outer Sparta wrote:Appalled by the fact that a nation would coordinate other nations to keep the nation of Jocospor from the general election
That's just how nations voted tactically. Tactical voting isn't against the rules and encouraging it certainly isn't.
Staging a coup of TNP isn't against the rules. It's a tactical takeover.
The Gilded Star wrote:Loconianiccurelliver wrote:I don't mind Auralia. Anyone against elitism is my friend.
Auralia didn't endorse Jocospor, either. In fact, his running mate apparently asked others to vote for anyone but Jocospor?
Either way, Jocospor decried Auralia as part of the WA Elite, so I think your list of friends amongst the top Sec-Gen candidates is limited to... just Jocospor, basically.
This is correct, United Massachusetts endorsed 'anyone but Jocospor' while Auralia refused to endorse any candidate, as shown in:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1341953Auralia is not part of the WA Elite, but they did enable the WA Elite to rig the election without stepping in to help prevent this... so I can't really say I respect their position either.
The Gilded Star wrote:Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:I don't think that they appreciate being grouped with anti-"WA Elite" crowd though.
Far be it for me to put words in Auralia's mouth, but I'm left with the impression that Auralia prefers to not hitch their wagon to any of the feuding factions here.
This seems to be my interpretation.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:29 pm
