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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:26 am
by Andsed
The New California Republic wrote:
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar

Are you actually even working on this draft anymore, or has it just become a platform from which to snipe at your detractors?

I mean to be fair it is not like there is all that much substance to work with here. Nothing illegal or condemnation worthy happened.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:27 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
The New California Republic wrote:Are you actually even working on this draft anymore, or has it just become a platform from which to snipe at your detractors?

Yes did you notice I completely restructured it.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:33 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Are you actually even working on this draft anymore, or has it just become a platform from which to snipe at your detractors?

Yes did you notice I completely restructured it.

...well, at least the new draft now reflects how threadbare the entire raison d'être of this proposal is, so...good going I guess... :meh:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:37 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
The New California Republic wrote:
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:Yes did you notice I completely restructured it.

...well, at least the new draft now reflects how threadbare the entire raison d'être of this proposal is, so...good going I guess... :meh:

I think there is pretty good reasoning behind it

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:37 am
by Outer Sparta
Is Aware of the power that the position of Secretary General Holds

You do realize it holds no power, right?
Appalled by the fact that a nation would coordinate other nations to keep the nation of Jocospor from the general election

That's just how nations voted tactically. Tactical voting isn't against the rules and encouraging it certainly isn't.
Believing that such corrupt actions should be grounds for condemnation

Define "corrupt actions."

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:37 am
by Yokiria
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:...well, at least the new draft now reflects how threadbare the entire raison d'être of this proposal is, so...good going I guess... :meh:

I think there is pretty good reasoning behind it

Then submit it and see if the voters agree.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:38 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:...well, at least the new draft now reflects how threadbare the entire raison d'être of this proposal is, so...good going I guess... :meh:

I think there is pretty good reasoning behind it

Except there isn't.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:39 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
Yokiria wrote:Then submit it and see if the voters agree.

If you'd read you'd know that I don't have enough endorsements

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:40 am
by Outer Sparta
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
Yokiria wrote:Then submit it and see if the voters agree.

If you'd read you'd know that I don't have enough endorsements

Then move to CCD and get endorsements.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:42 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
Outer Sparta wrote:Then move to CCD and get endorsements.

No I have been in my region for almost 3 years essentially since when I joined NS so I am not going to leave it just for endorsements. (Plus if I went anywhere I would probably go to one of the Pacifics so that I can get more endorsements faster)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:44 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
Yokiria wrote:Then submit it and see if the voters agree.

If you'd read you'd know that I don't have enough endorsements

So...this draft is essentially a waste of time then, if for the foreseeable future you won't be able to submit it...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:45 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
The New California Republic wrote:So...this draft is essentially a waste of time then, if for the foreseeable future you won't be able to submit it...

Maybe I will maybe I won't

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:46 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So...this draft is essentially a waste of time then, if for the foreseeable future you won't be able to submit it...

Maybe I will maybe I won't

Well you can't if you don't have the necessary endorsements, it's pretty clear-cut...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:46 am
by Outer Sparta
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Then move to CCD and get endorsements.

No I have been in my region for almost 3 years essentially since when I joined NS so I am not going to leave it just for endorsements. (Plus if I went anywhere I would probably go to one of the Pacifics so that I can get more endorsements faster)

No one will submit it on behalf of you considering Kuriko didn't commit election fraud, except for someone from the CCD. Call them if you want it submitted.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:47 am
by Yokiria
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So...this draft is essentially a waste of time then, if for the foreseeable future you won't be able to submit it...

Maybe I will maybe I won't


You physically cannot submit it. You do not have enough endorsements, and won't leave your inactive region to gain enough endorsements. You are wasting everyone's time, even the select few that support your endeavor. Come back to the SC when you have the required endorsements to submit a bill.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:58 am
by Andsed
Is Aware of the power that the position of Secretary General Holds

Secretary General has no actual power.

Appalled by the fact that a nation would coordinate other nations to keep the nation of Jocospor from the general election

That is simple strategic voting. A tried and true voting method that is not illegal nor worthy of condemnation in the slightest.

Believing that such corrupt actions should be grounds for condemnation

There was nothing corrupt about it. It was a simple call for their supporters to vote for other candidates who were believed to be better than Jocospor. It was not blackmail nor bots just simple politics.

All in all? Very much against.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:03 pm
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So...this draft is essentially a waste of time then, if for the foreseeable future you won't be able to submit it...

Maybe I will maybe I won't

It boils down to this: put up or shut up.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:06 pm
by The New California Republic
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:Maybe I will maybe I won't

It boils down to this: put up or shut up.

But since he doesn't have the necessary number of endorsements, and won't move to another region to get them, then his hands are tied.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:10 pm
by Loconianiccurelliver
The New California Republic wrote:But since he doesn't have the necessary number of endorsements, and won't move to another region to get them, then his hands are tied.

You'll see
sidenote I am a male but how dare you assume my gender

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:11 pm
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:But since he doesn't have the necessary number of endorsements, and won't move to another region to get them, then his hands are tied.

You'll see

Sure.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:13 pm
by Kuriko
I think this is getting over the top, and we should just leave this be now. This really didn't warrant 6 pages of comment, but if this does get to vote it would be hilarious if it passed. Or it would be hilarious to have a Krooked Kuriko condemnation.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:17 pm
by Bhang Bhang Duc
The New California Republic wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:It boils down to this: put up or shut up.

But since he doesn't have the necessary number of endorsements, and won't move to another region to get them, then his hands are tied.

He’s nipped across to CCD to try and get the endos.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:19 pm
by The New California Republic
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:But since he doesn't have the necessary number of endorsements, and won't move to another region to get them, then his hands are tied.

He’s nipped across to CCD to try and get the endos.

So he did. Expected tbh. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:18 pm
by Auralia
The New California Republic wrote:
Haruhi Japan wrote:What is wrong with self-commending one's region?

You probably aren't aware of this, but self-commend attempts are frowned upon. The most notorious being Auralia's attempt at a self-commend a few years ago.

To the extent that it is "notorious", it is only so because people like you keep bringing it up for no particular reason, more than six years after it happened and long after I apologized for it.

I would appreciate it if you could find a different punching bag at this point. I believe I have served my time.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:29 pm
by The New California Republic
Auralia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You probably aren't aware of this, but self-commend attempts are frowned upon. The most notorious being Auralia's attempt at a self-commend a few years ago.

To the extent that it is "notorious", it is only so because people like you keep bringing it up for no particular reason, more than six years after it happened and long after I apologized for it.

I would appreciate it if you could find a different punching bag at this point. I believe I have served my time.

It was an example, nothing personal.