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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:46 am
by The New California Republic
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Is forming a voting bloc to keep out someone whose region has repeatedly tried to self-commend and also take over TNP actually unethical tho?

Excuse me, this is wrong, there was absolutely nothing unethical about our attempt to take over TNP. It's just politics. If TNP can't take politics they shouldnt be playing a politics simulator game.

Try reading what I said again, as you have totally misinterpreted it.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You probably aren't aware of this, but self-commend attempts are frowned upon. The most notorious being Auralia's attempt at a self-commend a few years ago.

This is also verifiably wrong. Our self-commend attempts were a large part of what led to our shiny Liberation badge. :hug:

Wow, more misinterpretation.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:58 am
by Kuriko
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:OP - your proposal needs some significant work on grammar, structure and formatting, but fundamentally I support what you're going for here.

Once you've tided it up, you're free to pop into the CCD and gain a couple of endorsements to submit it yourself.

The New California Republic wrote:Is forming a voting bloc to keep out someone whose region has repeatedly tried to self-commend and also take over TNP actually unethical tho?

Excuse me, this is wrong, there was absolutely nothing unethical about our attempt to take over TNP. It's just politics. If TNP can't take politics they shouldnt be playing a politics simulator game.

The New California Republic wrote:You probably aren't aware of this, but self-commend attempts are frowned upon. The most notorious being Auralia's attempt at a self-commend a few years ago.

This is also verifiably wrong. Our self-commend attempts were a large part of what led to our shiny Liberation badge. :hug:

I know you can't respond after your forum ban, but if you want to help the OP with this be my guest :) I'll just sit here silently laughing, and if it passes I'll laugh even harder.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:14 am
by OOFD
I honestly am saying that there was nothing happening. Other nations can team up. It is actually their will. I don't think this draft will work. It should say Commend Kuriko for using their intelligence to come up with a political plot that helps them take out an opponent. It is a very smart move from Kuriko. I applaud Kuriko for doing a very good job of winning. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:18 am
by Zeritae
:meh:
Oofd wrote:I honestly am saying that there was nothing happening. Other nations can team up. It is actually their will. I don't think this draft will work. It should say Commend Kuriko for using their intelligence to come up with a political plot that helps them take out an opponent. It is a very smart move from Kuriko. I applaud Kuriko for doing a very good job of winning. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

This, but unironically.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:46 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
Yokiria wrote:(Image)

How many times will people use this same image? Get more creative

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:50 am
by Duravia
This draft must be a joke.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:39 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
Yokiria wrote:(Image)

How many times will people use this same image? Get more creative

If the shoe fits...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:15 am
by Yokiria
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:Get more creative
I refuse.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:48 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:50 am
by Outer Sparta
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

Nobody sees your point.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:51 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

CCD wanted to take over the TNP, not "rig it". And it was just the latest in the various bullshit that CCD has pulled.

So no, your attempt at making a point fails miserably.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:55 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
The New California Republic wrote:CCD wanted to take over the TNP, not "rig it". And it was just the latest in the various bullshit that CCD has pulled.

So no, your attempt at making a point fails miserably.

Did Kuriko not win the election essentially Taking Over the Secretary General position

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:58 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:CCD wanted to take over the TNP, not "rig it". And it was just the latest in the various bullshit that CCD has pulled.

So no, your attempt at making a point fails miserably.

Did Kuriko not win the election essentially Taking Over the Secretary General position

Only if you really want to bend and distort the English language to within an inch of its life to make that the case. ;)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 am
by Chavandriclanderpleistan
Even if Joco had made it into the top five, previous round results indicated that an actual win for Joco was extremely implausible. This fact should mostly render the points of "rigging" as moot, whether or not it was truly the case.

I mean, Codemn a nation for allegedly keeping someone out of round 4, when they had already lost the previous 3 by a far margin? This is the kind of petty energy we want in the SC!

It'll be a good resolution when you put more deliberate jokes in it, to match the circumstances! I only laughed at the serious parts this time round, sorry.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 am
by OOFD
What if the CCD isn't as corrupt as you think it is? I think we might need a region name change because it is turning into a less and lesser corrupt place. I don't know, but we all knew that Jocospor was sadly not going to be able to win because of the popularity of Kuriko. :( :(

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 am
by Haruhi Japan
Oofd wrote:What if the CCD isn't as corrupt as you think it is? I think we might need a region name change because it is turning into a less and lesser corrupt place. I don't know, but we all knew that Jocospor was sadly not going to be able to win because of the popularity of Kuriko. :( :(

As it should be.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:48 am
by Andsed
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:CCD: moves WA members around to rig TNP government
Nationstates: Go to hell!!

WA elite: moves votes around in a way to rig an election
Nationstates: Oh yeah that's so amazing we should commend them!



You see my point

Nope. Since strategic voting is not rigging an election. This entire proposal just reeks of bitterness.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
[quote=Andsed]Nope. Since strategic voting is not rigging an election. This entire proposal just reeks of bitterness.[/quote]
what I am trying to say is that your fine with strategic voting but when the CCD does a bit of Strategic WA allocation and y'all freak out

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:01 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what I am trying to say is that your fine with strategic voting but when the CCD does a bit of Strategic WA allocation and y'all freak out

Burying your head in euphemisms isn't going to redeem this godawful draft proposal. ;)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:09 am
by Andsed
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:Nope. Since strategic voting is not rigging an election. This entire proposal just reeks of bitterness.

what I am trying to say is that your fine with strategic voting but when the CCD does a bit of Strategic WA allocation and y'all freak out[/quote]

I don't give a shit about whatever this "WA allocation" was. All I give a damm about is your claim that the ""WA elite rigged"" the election. A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis. There was no bots or blackmail going on here, just people who did not want the CCD in the race and so they voted in a manner to prevent that. Maybe you guys should consider why people don't like the CCD instead of whining about it and making god awful proposals.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:15 am
by Kuriko
Oofd wrote:What if the CCD isn't as corrupt as you think it is? I think we might need a region name change because it is turning into a less and lesser corrupt place. I don't know, but we all knew that Jocospor was sadly not going to be able to win because of the popularity of Kuriko. :( :(

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm far from popular.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:18 am
by Loconianiccurelliver
what the hell is that grammar
Andsed wrote:A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:19 am
by Andsed
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar
Andsed wrote:A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis.

Grammar that still makes more sense than your proposal.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:22 am
by The New California Republic
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar
Andsed wrote:A claim that is an foolish one with no factual basis.

Are you actually even working on this draft anymore, or has it just become a platform from which to snipe at your detractors?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:22 am
by Outer Sparta
Andsed wrote:
Loconianiccurelliver wrote:what the hell is that grammar

Grammar that still makes more sense than your proposal.

And that proposal still isn't put in an appropriate box to make it clear it's their proposal.