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[DRAFT] Condemn Auralia

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[DRAFT] Condemn Auralia

Postby Candanadium » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:00 am

My first attempt at writing a resolution. Advice and constructive feedback will be greatly appreciated. Feel free to ask me any questions regarding the events mentioned in this resolution, as I know it can be a bit confusing.

The Security Council,

Fully Aware that, although it has fallen victim to inactivity and has been re-branded as an "Empire" under the rule of Peoples Free Republic of Romania, Auralia has carried out raids and occupations on regions in the past, under the leadership of both King Nephmir II and Peoples Free Republic of Romania, and is likely to do so in the future, as the military wing of the region, the Auralian Knights, has yet to be disbanded,

Recalling the first attempt of an Auralian seizure of The Democratika in June of 2019 through attempting to seize the WA Delegate position after the Democratikan Founder briefly ceased to exist,

Further Recalling the Auralian occupation of The Democratika, where Auralian agent Far Wilds Akori gained control of the Founder of The Democratika and held control of the region for five (5) days from July 1, 2019 to July 6, 2019,

Appalled by Auralia's use of espionage in The Democratika prior to the occupation, including but not limited to the deployments of Far Wilds Akori and Bolivia-Peru-Ecuador,

Disturbed that Auralia continues to hold a grudge against The Democratika for the expulsion of Amurria, puppet nation of Peoples Free Republic of Romania, even after said nation has faced multiple complaints from other Democratikan nations regarding abuse of power while serving as Governor of The Democratika and making questionable remarks about other nations in the region, which spurred the two attacks upon The Democratika,

Pointing Out Security Council Resolution #290, which called for the liberation of Aurelia, another region previously held by the invading forces of Auralia,

Appalled at the outcome of the extended Auralian occupation of the region of Aurelia at the hands of Auralia, which still hasn't regained its former levels of activity, even after being liberated by the Security Council,

Believing the unprovoked actions of Auralia in The Democratika to be disproportionately disruptive to regional livelihood, originally intending to occupy the region indefinitely, which may have resulted in the complete destruction of the region, as was the case with Aurelia,

Acknowledging the existence of the nation Auralia, which should not be confused for the region of Auralia and is not affiliated with the region in any known way,

Hereby condemns Auralia.


EDIT 1: Made the Disturbed clause a little more clear and moved the clause about the nation of Auralia and the region of Auralia.
EDIT 2: Removed references to a Founder account, added a few clauses
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Postby Numero Capitan » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:19 am

Hi Candanadium! A good first attempt but I think it lacks an initial punch.

The first few paragraphs are probably better located deeper within the text, with more of an initial focus on the region's long term history with regional destruction and aggression. One reference might be to their declaration of war on the West Pacific and calls for it to be "purged and cleansed".

It would be worth adding in any more details about other griefing in the regions history too.

The 'Disturbed' paragraph needs to be after the information about Auralia's attempts to destroy the Democratika.

This could be moved towards the end as it is worth noting but not directly relevant to the proposal:
Further Aware of Acknowledging, the existence of the nation Auralia, which should not be confused for the region of Auralia and is not affiliated with the region in any known way,
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Postby Candanadium » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:21 am

Numero Capitan wrote:Hi Candanadium! A good first attempt but I think it lacks an initial punch.

The first few paragraphs are probably better located deeper within the text, with more of an initial focus on the region's long term history with regional destruction and aggression. One reference might be to their declaration of war on the West Pacific and calls for it to be "purged and cleansed".

It would be worth adding in any more details about other griefing in the regions history too.

The 'Disturbed' paragraph needs to be after the information about Auralia's attempts to destroy the Democratika.

This could be moved towards the end as it is worth noting but not directly relevant to the proposal:
Further Aware of Acknowledging, the existence of the nation Auralia, which should not be confused for the region of Auralia and is not affiliated with the region in any known way,

Thank you! I'm not too clear on their earlier history, so I'll definitely look into that more.
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Postby Seratania » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:38 am

As being a puppet of the leader of The Auralian Knights that I use for nothing more than RP, I can easily deny and prove denile that we hold a grudge against your region. We saw an open oppurtunity to take control of your region when your founder died due to your regional constitution of having a shared founder and took it. We hold no ill will against your region or its people. Finally, our objective in Aurelia changed once we took control of it, we were going to refound it under control of Nord-Norden as a trophy in commemoration as a region that was once a fairly large and active RP region while trying to rebuild it we then decided to just hold it as we were never able to kick out the sole puppet from a nation in Blitzkrieg due to it amassing to much influence hence when we put on the password so we could eventually come back and do our original goal.

On I side note I was the one who approved the Democratika raid not Romania as he was just the one to carry it out. The Auralian Knights, even though reside within Auralia and historically have always had a spot on the government council, is a separate entity from the region itself which focuses more on RP. As for the inactivity portion its mainly on discord and a *shivers* offsite forum now. I also remember the TNP war, Neph was a lovable madman but damn was he a good military leader.

That's just my two piece to help you further this along.
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Postby Candanadium » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:52 am

Seratania wrote:As being a puppet of the leader of The Auralian Knights that I use for nothing more than RP, I can easily deny and prove denile that we hold a grudge against your region. We saw an open oppurtunity to take control of your region when your founder died due to your regional constitution of having a shared founder and took it. We hold no ill will against your region or its people. Finally, our objective in Aurelia changed once we took control of it, we were going to refound it under control of Nord-Norden as a trophy in commemoration as a region that was once a fairly large and active RP region while trying to rebuild it we then decided to just hold it as we were never able to kick out the sole puppet from a nation in Blitzkrieg due to it amassing to much influence hence when we put on the password so we could eventually come back and do our original goal.

On I side note I was the one who approved the Democratika raid not Romania as he was just the one to carry it out. The Auralian Knights, even though reside within Auralia and historically have always had a spot on the government council, is a separate entity from the region itself which focuses more on RP. As for the inactivity portion its mainly on discord and a *shivers* offsite forum now. I also remember the TNP war, Neph was a lovable madman but damn was he a good military leader.

That's just my two piece to help you further this along.
~ URHR


You harbour no ill will? Then please, explain to me the spies we've had after the occupation ended. Explain to me why, despite multiple banjections from our region, your founder still has an odd fascination with our region and continues to crank out maps of his "Holy Amurrian Empire" claiming dominance over all of The Democratika. It's true, I don't know about the current state of affairs in Auralia, but don't pretend like the occupation was nothing personal. Romania/Amurria/Max/whatever he may be calling himself has had a personal grudge against this region ever since we banned him for being the raging anti-Semite he was.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:28 am

Good first effort, legal (as far as I can see) and well constructed. However, there’s not enough in it at the moment to convince me that they deserve a Condemnation.

Edit: just noticed this.
Further Recalling the Auralian occupation of The Democratika, where Auralian agent Far Wilds Akori gained control of the Founder account of The Democratika and held control of the region for five (5) days from July 1, 2019 to July 6, 2019

Referring to a founder account is an R4(c) violation.
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Postby Candanadium » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:38 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Good first effort, legal (as far as I can see) and well constructed. However, there’s not enough in it at the moment to convince me that they deserve a Condemnation.

Edit: just noticed this.
Further Recalling the Auralian occupation of The Democratika, where Auralian agent Far Wilds Akori gained control of the Founder account of The Democratika and held control of the region for five (5) days from July 1, 2019 to July 6, 2019

Referring to a founder account is an R4(c) violation.

Thanks for pointing that one out, I'm still working on fleshing it out and adding more details about their earlier activities.
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Postby Seratania » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:35 am

Candanadium wrote:Snip~


If he has a personal grudge thats one thing but as a region we hold no ill will. The "spy" was business as you turned defender so I deemed it a necessary evil at the time. Since then I have deemed your operations not worth our time to know as you haven't tried to stop any of our tag operations or active stealth operations in awhile and I myself have tagged y'all as nothing more than a nuisance. As for claims of Anti-Semitism if you have proof please contact my main with proof. You also forgot about the spy y'all had that I knew existed but didnt care about in the slightest as it wasnt a pressing matter. Any more arguing and a forum mod will get probably get involved so DM me.

P.S. Condemnations are seen as trophies within the raider community. If you really want to screw with a raider Commend them.
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Postby Boda » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:53 pm

This is just..... no.

This seems like a push to extend some regional drama. In all honesty, Auralia might just be too obscure to even get a condemnation now.

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Postby Peoples Free Republic of Romania » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:30 pm

Candanadium wrote:
Seratania wrote:As being a puppet of the leader of The Auralian Knights that I use for nothing more than RP, I can easily deny and prove denile that we hold a grudge against your region. We saw an open oppurtunity to take control of your region when your founder died due to your regional constitution of having a shared founder and took it. We hold no ill will against your region or its people. Finally, our objective in Aurelia changed once we took control of it, we were going to refound it under control of Nord-Norden as a trophy in commemoration as a region that was once a fairly large and active RP region while trying to rebuild it we then decided to just hold it as we were never able to kick out the sole puppet from a nation in Blitzkrieg due to it amassing to much influence hence when we put on the password so we could eventually come back and do our original goal.

On I side note I was the one who approved the Democratika raid not Romania as he was just the one to carry it out. The Auralian Knights, even though reside within Auralia and historically have always had a spot on the government council, is a separate entity from the region itself which focuses more on RP. As for the inactivity portion its mainly on discord and a *shivers* offsite forum now. I also remember the TNP war, Neph was a lovable madman but damn was he a good military leader.

That's just my two piece to help you further this along.
~ URHR


You harbour no ill will? Then please, explain to me the spies we've had after the occupation ended. Explain to me why, despite multiple banjections from our region, your founder still has an odd fascination with our region and continues to crank out maps of his "Holy Amurrian Empire" claiming dominance over all of The Democratika. It's true, I don't know about the current state of affairs in Auralia, but don't pretend like the occupation was nothing personal. Romania/Amurria/Max/whatever he may be calling himself has had a personal grudge against this region ever since we banned him for being the raging anti-Semite he was.

Ok dude so, lemme tell you this.

1. As for the Amurrian lore part, what's so hard to understand? Amurria was pretty much shaped by its stay in Democratika, and that stay helped me make a general sense of the lore. Yes, I may hold a grudge in the sense of "using and altering info from a past interaction to fit the lore".
2. How does one pursuing his own hobbies and activities claim "dominance over all of The Democratika"?
3. As for the spies, dude, how many times I gotta tell ya, Auralia has no spies. That's a pretty damned hard positive.
4. Idk how I am an anti-Semite, care to tell me?
5. No, believe me when I tell you that it took others notifying me to realize you guys wrote this condemnation. If you call that holding a grudge then you need to consult a dictionary.

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Postby Peoples Free Republic of Romania » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:38 pm

as for your Amurria-hating boner, there's this ^w^ https://www.deviantart.com/sovietkiller ... -828058270

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Postby Boda » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:10 pm

Also you complain about auralian espionage when you’ve had a spy in their region for months

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Postby Candanadium » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:35 pm

Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:
Candanadium wrote:
You harbour no ill will? Then please, explain to me the spies we've had after the occupation ended. Explain to me why, despite multiple banjections from our region, your founder still has an odd fascination with our region and continues to crank out maps of his "Holy Amurrian Empire" claiming dominance over all of The Democratika. It's true, I don't know about the current state of affairs in Auralia, but don't pretend like the occupation was nothing personal. Romania/Amurria/Max/whatever he may be calling himself has had a personal grudge against this region ever since we banned him for being the raging anti-Semite he was.

Ok dude so, lemme tell you this.

1. As for the Amurrian lore part, what's so hard to understand? Amurria was pretty much shaped by its stay in Democratika, and that stay helped me make a general sense of the lore. Yes, I may hold a grudge in the sense of "using and altering info from a past interaction to fit the lore".
2. How does one pursuing his own hobbies and activities claim "dominance over all of The Democratika"?
3. As for the spies, dude, how many times I gotta tell ya, Auralia has no spies. That's a pretty damned hard positive.
4. Idk how I am an anti-Semite, care to tell me?
5. No, believe me when I tell you that it took others notifying me to realize you guys wrote this condemnation. If you call that holding a grudge then you need to consult a dictionary.


1. Making maps and extensive posts about how Candanadium fell to almighty Amurria kind of screams "I can't move on so my only outlet is petty revenge" to me, but ok
2. Those telegrams to me claiming your "rightful title" as "Governor of The Democratika"? Those communications we had in TUA after the occupation?
3. Bolivia-Peru-Ecuador and Far Wilds Akori. I didn't mention any other names because I don't know the names of the spies currently in TDK, but those two are undeniable. We both know that you had/have spies in TDK. Don't try and deny that.
4. You know exactly what you did in the TDK server that got you banned.

Besides, I thought condemnations were supposed a badge of honour for raiders? The only reason we're writing this is to put the final nail in the coffin and get this over with for good. Now please, can you let me get on with this? If you want to argue against it you can do that after I finish it and submit it as a proposal, okay buddy? Appreciate it.

EDIT: Your own High General admitted to you having spies in TDK, kind of hard to make a convincing narrative when your official statements don't match
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Postby Peoples Free Republic of Romania » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:26 pm

Candanadium wrote:
Peoples Free Republic of Romania wrote:Ok dude so, lemme tell you this.

1. As for the Amurrian lore part, what's so hard to understand? Amurria was pretty much shaped by its stay in Democratika, and that stay helped me make a general sense of the lore. Yes, I may hold a grudge in the sense of "using and altering info from a past interaction to fit the lore".
2. How does one pursuing his own hobbies and activities claim "dominance over all of The Democratika"?
3. As for the spies, dude, how many times I gotta tell ya, Auralia has no spies. That's a pretty damned hard positive.
4. Idk how I am an anti-Semite, care to tell me?
5. No, believe me when I tell you that it took others notifying me to realize you guys wrote this condemnation. If you call that holding a grudge then you need to consult a dictionary.


1. Making maps and extensive posts about how Candanadium fell to almighty Amurria kind of screams "I can't move on so my only outlet is petty revenge" to me, but ok
2. Those telegrams to me claiming your "rightful title" as "Governor of The Democratika"? Those communications we had in TUA after the occupation?
3. Bolivia-Peru-Ecuador and Far Wilds Akori. I didn't mention any other names because I don't know the names of the spies currently in TDK, but those two are undeniable. We both know that you had/have spies in TDK. Don't try and deny that.
4. You know exactly what you did in the TDK server that got you banned.

Besides, I thought condemnations were supposed a badge of honour for raiders? The only reason we're writing this is to put the final nail in the coffin and get this over with for good. Now please, can you let me get on with this? If you want to argue against it you can do that after I finish it and submit it as a proposal, okay buddy? Appreciate it.

EDIT: Your own High General admitted to you having spies in TDK, kind of hard to make a convincing narrative when your official statements don't match

Chief, the Army wing of the region is free to do as it sees. But I haven't approved any espionage operation. Frankly, I don't care what the High General does. I don't answer for his actions, and neither does he for mine.

Yes chief, those 2 nations were indeed spies, but after that we didn't have a spy. Other than the fake one you guys sent here to try to gain my trust. If you want proof that you guys hold a grudge, check Urran. I still won't forgive him and you for that whole thing, but it's not like I actively pursue a revenge.

As for the condemnation, dude, I couldn't care less. But I won't let baseless accusations go unanswered


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