Louisistan wrote:As to the alledged "villifcation", our esteemed Delegate has already explained that the emotions expressed by members of our community are just that: Emotions. If you do not want to hurt people, do not hurt them. If you choose to do something that hurts people, face the music. Twobagger was well aware of the high regard and respect in which he was held. He chose to abandon a community that does not tolerate raiding to go and raid, thus showing us that his values and our did not align after all. People were disappointed and voiced that disappointment. There is no villification.
A member of TITO Command called him "a piece of shit." Find ways to rationalize it if you'd like, but don't try to claim there was no vilification.
Louisistan wrote:10000 Islands has had first-hand experience with the unpleasantness of being raided and our culture has been built on opposition to the notion that raiding is a harmless bit of fun to be had on NS. Raiders don't like that, I get it. They'd prefer we pat them on the back and tell them what great fun we have going up against them. That's not the reason we defend. It's the reason why some other people defend, and I don't judge. But 10000 Islands will never be part of that system. No matter how often you try to use the Security Council as a weapon against us.
Firsthand experience with being raided? Yeah, in like, 2003 or something wasn't it? How many of you were even here then? Give me a break.
Regardless, I think you're way overestimating the importance of 10000 Islands. I won't speak for Jakker because he does fine speaking for himself, but personally I support this proposal because Twobagger was one of the best defenders of 2019. He didn't
win Defender of the Year for nothing. You can't just act like he did nothing commendable now because he's done things you don't like; he was still one of the best defenders of last year, if not the best. That's why I support this proposal, and the fact that it also doesn't shy away from briefly mentioning the extremist culture of 10000 Islands is just gravy.