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Condemn The Allied Tribe?

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The Allied Tribe
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Condemn The Allied Tribe?

Postby The Allied Tribe » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:44 pm

I did not write this, and I am obviously against it, but here:


Noting The Allied Tribe is a stubborn nation that has done the following:

Defending small regions against other regions

Disapproving of the invasions of several fascist regions

Being against invading any regions at all

Using puppets that help defend against regions

Acknowledging these actions deserve a condemnation.

Hereby condemns The Allied Tribe.

It hopefully will get very few approvals, but I would like a debate on this controversial proposal anyway.
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2nd Allied Tribe War is over, The Allied Tribe repels an invasion by ATFF | The Allied Tribe officially bans Child Labor, Compulsory Organ Harvesting | The Allied Tribe states that force must be used strictly defensively, begins armed neutrality and cuts aggressive military ties with all nations
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:52 pm

The proposal was authored by Third ZSeparatists. If it somehow gets to vote, I will support for no reason whatsoever, not because I have any enmity towards the OP (and I don't)... I have defender-ish tendencies myself but can't actually defend for the life of me :P
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:55 pm

Tinhampton wrote:The proposal was authored by Third ZSeparatists. If it somehow gets to vote, I will support for no reason whatsoever, not because I have any enmity towards the OP (and I don't)... I have defender-ish tendencies myself but can't actually defend for the life of me :P


I get your point. But still, it’s nice making a “living” in NS by defending. Again, most people wouldn’t want a condemnation for their nation.
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We are also called Deetileaa-Deluaiia.
2nd Allied Tribe War is over, The Allied Tribe repels an invasion by ATFF | The Allied Tribe officially bans Child Labor, Compulsory Organ Harvesting | The Allied Tribe states that force must be used strictly defensively, begins armed neutrality and cuts aggressive military ties with all nations
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:53 pm

So, is the debate dead?
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We are also called Deetileaa-Deluaiia.
2nd Allied Tribe War is over, The Allied Tribe repels an invasion by ATFF | The Allied Tribe officially bans Child Labor, Compulsory Organ Harvesting | The Allied Tribe states that force must be used strictly defensively, begins armed neutrality and cuts aggressive military ties with all nations
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:06 pm

The Allied Tribe wrote:So, is the debate dead?

I would guess so yes, in the sense that no one particularly cares.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:55 am

The Allied Tribe wrote:So, is the debate dead?

The submitted proposal is legal, rubbish and will disappear from sight in a bit under two days.

No debate required.
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Postby Third ZSeparatists » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:17 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:So, is the debate dead?

The submitted proposal is legal, rubbish and will disappear from sight in a bit under two days.

No debate required.


I just found this thread. How is it rubbish?
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Postby BlackLight Covenant » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:22 am

Third ZSeparatists wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The submitted proposal is legal, rubbish and will disappear from sight in a bit under two days.

No debate required.


I just found this thread. How is it rubbish?


What you've made is a proposal condemning someone for being a defender and for fighting against the ideology of fascism, actions that usually serve as one of the many potential arguments for a commendation here. Handing someone a condemnation for protecting other regions from attacks and fighting against the spread of an ideology that many here deem to be actively harmful has little chance of passing.

Not to mention that the arguments you've made could be applied to a whole array of defenders. There's nothing in here that speaks of any significant achievements or actions that the targeted nation has achieved or committed; no specific major defender operations, no specific invasion operations, etc, etc. The arguments that you do present are rather...generic. Seeing how people would rather not set a standard of condemning or commending literally anyone who takes part in the R/D game, it will be a necessity to cite specific things that the target has done in order to actually stand out, and by extension, give this proposal a chance of succeeding.

Edit: apologies for any typos n stuff, I'm on mobile. It's a pain to use.
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Postby Numero Capitan » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:47 am

Tinhampton wrote:The proposal was authored by Third ZSeparatists. If it somehow gets to vote, I will support for no reason whatsoever, not because I have any enmity towards the OP (and I don't)... I have defender-ish tendencies myself but can't actually defend for the life of me :P


I am sure the Rejected Realms Army would be happy to assist with the latter
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