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Postby PotatoFarmers » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:30 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:I almost submitted this repeal this weekend, but unfortunately Jocospor decided to try and overthrow TNP so there’s no chance of that happening now.

I guess we cannot blame you for it.
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Postby Wayneactia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:48 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:I almost submitted this repeal this weekend, but unfortunately Jocospor decided to try and overthrow TNP so there’s no chance of that happening now.

You really couldn't make this shit up even if you tried, could you? :rofl:
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Postby The Chuck » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:39 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:I almost submitted this repeal this weekend, but unfortunately Jocospor decided to try and overthrow TNP so there’s no chance of that happening now.


Sorry for stepping on your toes Kaboomlandia! :?
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:26 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:I almost submitted this repeal this weekend, but unfortunately Jocospor decided to try and overthrow TNP so there’s no chance of that happening now.

You really couldn't make this shit up even if you tried, could you? :rofl:

You really couldn’t.

Kaboomlandia’s draft proposal goes “kaboom”. (Sorry)
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:20 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:I almost submitted this repeal this weekend, but unfortunately Jocospor decided to try and overthrow TNP so there’s no chance of that happening now.

Yeah I don't think you will be able to submit this for a few years at least, as this latest shit is likely to cast a very long shadow.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:10 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:I almost submitted this repeal this weekend, but unfortunately Jocospor decided to try and overthrow TNP so there’s no chance of that happening now.

Yeah I don't think you will be able to submit this for a few years at least, as this latest shit is likely to cast a very long shadow.

Yup, this isn't going to be viable for a very long time. I don't think Jocospor is quite careless enough to get deleted either, so it'll probably just be on the backburner until roughly 2023.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:23 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yeah I don't think you will be able to submit this for a few years at least, as this latest shit is likely to cast a very long shadow.

Yup, this isn't going to be viable for a very long time. I don't think Jocospor is quite careless enough to get deleted either, so it'll probably just be on the backburner until roughly 2023.

It'd be interesting for this to go to a vote now, just to use the scale of the defeat as a measure of the level of righteous indignation that would be directed at CCD.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:16 am

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Flanderlion wrote:Seems pointless to repeal, the resolution is there and doing its job.

OOC: Good luck raiding this.


You know, I love how this comment has aged like milk, with the WAD now having just 59 endorsements - their founder CTEing would make it a fully feasible occupation
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:26 am

Blood Wine wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC: Good luck raiding this.


You know, I love how this comment has aged like milk, with the WAD now having just 59 endorsements - their founder CTEing would make it a fully feasible occupation

OOC: Yep.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:23 pm

The way the CCD is now, I think it's in need of liberation. I day this as a former member of the Confederation.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:25 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:The way the CCD is now, I think it's in need of liberation. I day this as a former member of the Confederation.

If by "liberation" you mean raided, then it is impossible with a founder nation that has not popped its clogs.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:33 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:The way the CCD is now, I think it's in need of liberation. I day this as a former member of the Confederation.

If by "liberation" you mean raided, then it is impossible with a founder nation that has not popped its clogs.

Well I'm glad I left.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:35 pm

I used to be for this repeal, but now I'm against.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:35 pm

If the liberation is repealed, CCD will laugh at it. If the liberation isn't repealed, CCD will laugh at it.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:39 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:If the liberation is repealed, CCD will laugh at it. If the liberation isn't repealed, CCD will laugh at it.

Indeed, we're just wasting our time here. We already did what we could do.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:40 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:If the liberation is repealed, CCD will laugh at it. If the liberation isn't repealed, CCD will laugh at it.

They were pariahs then and now they are even worse.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:09 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I used to be for this repeal, but now I'm against.

OOC: Sums up my response.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:16 am

I really didn't think I'd even consider bumping this back up, but it's been ten more months since the original draft, the region still hasn't been raided, their population is stable, the founder hasn't been DEATed, and the delegate is up to 200,000 influence. This is once again a "repeal it written by someone who doesn't sit on a throne of lies" and not let CCD use it for propaganda. No ideological arguments here, just straight facts: it didn't work. Kill it and stop giving them attention.
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Postby Ittonia » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:28 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:So, the basis for this. This liberation has, to put it simply, failed at what it was supposed to do. The region didn't get raided and the CCD leaders mostly treat it as a giant joke.

However, the liberation has also served as a reason for CCD residents to keep popping up with biased proposals trying to repeal it. All of these repeals are based on nothing but propaganda and lies and give them needless attention. The goal of this repeal is to serve as a simple, low-attention-giving proposal that just states the facts - that this liberation didn't work and is just making them louder - and repeal it so they can't use it as a talking point anymore. I don't even mention them by name in this proposal - don't want them getting more attention beyond the title.

TL;DR: maybe if we kill it with a repeal written by a non-affiliated member the resident authors can't spew endless lies and draw attention.

Repeal "Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators"

Category: Repeal | Target: SC #263 | Proposed by: Kaboomlandia


The Security Council,

Acknowledging the goal of Security Council Resolution #263 to put the target region on notice for their wrongdoing and to provide a safety net for the chance to overthrow the region if the founder were ever to cease to exist,

Realizing, however, that no military operation against the region has been attempted in the 26 months since the passing of the original liberation,

Aware that even if the target region were to someday become a viable raid target via the founder ceasing to exist, it would still require an impossibly large military operation stretching over weeks or months to take down due to the multiple entrenched high-influence regional officers,

Noting that between this region and the three other regions with founders that were liberated in 2018, not a single one of the resolutions achieved its goals,

Pointing out that the goal of SC #263 to provide a "warning" to the target region has largely failed, as the region's leadership mostly treats the resolution as a badge of honour for their doings,

Cognizant that the liberation has not served as any sort of warning or deterrent to recruitment for the targeted resolution, as their nation count has been in a steady state for months on end,

Annoyed that several attempts have been made by residents of the target region themselves to repeal the liberation, which all are extremely misleading to paint themselves in a better light,

Wishing to take away the target region's ability to utilize their false statements through repeal attempts of this proposal by passing one that doesn't give them the attention or ability to use false arguments to sway voters to their side,

Hereby repeals SC #263.


Discuss!


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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:24 am

This is still good ;p
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:25 pm

Can you please just ram this into queue so this shit can be over and done with? Eventually Joco is going to con enough people into finally voting for the umpteen repeals he has tried over the years and he is going to get an authorship badge, all while ego stroking the CCD some more.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:14 pm

Wayneactia wrote:Can you please just ram this into queue so this shit can be over and done with? Eventually Joco is going to con enough people into finally voting for the umpteen repeals he has tried over the years and he is going to get an authorship badge, all while ego stroking the CCD some more.

I'm probably going to submit tonight - I have 883 leftover TG stamps from a batch that r3n gave me a really long time ago to do some task that I was saving up just in case I ever felt like using them.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:04 pm

Submitted.
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:54 pm

Thank you to Kaboomlandia for his efforts in this matter. I recently published this on another thread:

Jocospor wrote:I would say, Kaboomlandia, you are more than welcome to submit your proposal. CCD will definitely support it.

EDIT: I was not aware of the new draft by Kaboomlandia, which has just been submitted, when I gave this endorsement. The last four lines of this new version are extremely misleading. CCD will be holding its support for the resolution until further notice.

Herein lies the hypocrisy: CCD has been criticised for in the past using this resolution for glorification purposes. CCD critics are now currently doing exactly the same thing, and yet they receive no rebuke. It's these double-standards that have always led CCD to raise concerns over the state of the World Assembly.

I would ask all delegates to be as objective as possible throughout this process.
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