[Deleted] Repeal Commend Hell

[Padfootia]

The Security Council

Acknowledging Hell's founder, SATAN no longer exists, and believing that not enough detail supports why Hell is commended because of the founder no longer existing,

Knowing already that unlike most founderless communities Hell hasn't displaced and moved to a different region, but believing a better job could be made to describe this,

Unamused that the author thought Hell passwording themselves is unique, and didn't detail how the security of Hell worked,

Noting that the things that accurately describes why Hell deserves to be commended is poorly written, such as the poor presentation of their publication,

Inspired by Hell's hardships and how they thrive to survive from invasion, but is ashamed of how that is the only thing in the commendation describing why Hell deserves a commendation,

Believing that a better commendation could be made to show why Hell deserves to be commended, noting that this terrible commendation Iacks many stuff such as how they survived multiple invasions, how and why their security system works, and why the are a role model to other regions,

Hereby repeals Commend Hell.

If you believe the original commendation sucks and Hell needs a better one please give feedback and support this.

[Bormiar]

Unimpressed by the author reminding that SATAN Hell's founder CTEd, and believing that is worth a commendation,

You'll want "The Security Council," at the beginning, and Hell's founder was deleted by the moderators 16 years ago. Hell has faced invasion multiple times but has never been refounded and has been in native hands for a long time. That's impressive.

Knowing already that unlike some founder less communities Hell hasn't displaced,

Did you miss something ("unlike some founder less communities Hell hasn't displaced, _________________")? This is just fluff in its current state.

Unamused that the author thought Hell passwording themselves is unique,

It is unique. All members of Hell first go to Underworld until they're trusted enough to join Hell.

Annoyed that a much better job could be done describing the security of Hell,

Underlined my grammar/spelling corrections

Noting that the things that accurately describe why Hell deserves to be commended are poorly written, such as the poor presentation of their publication,

Again bolded my corrections to your writing. Ironic, isn't it?

Inspired by Hell's hardships and how they thrive to survive from invasion, but is ashamed of how that is the only thing in the commendation describing what Hell deserves a commendation,

It's not the only reason in the commendation.

Believing Hell deserves better than this mess the author scraped up, also truly knowing that a better commendation could be made to show why Hell deserves to be commended, noting that this terrible commendation Iacks many stuff, and believing Hell had earned one that truly depicts their greatness,

You really haven't provided any reasoning for this.

Hereby Repeal: Commend Hell.

"Hereby repeals Commend Hell."

[Makdon]

ngl, the grammar and readability of this thing are a bit of a mess. Also, your argument mostly seems to be that commending hell for its protection system and hardships, but the commendation also brings up how good a community it is, its tolerance, and the example it provides to other regions. Unless you have some way or refuting those, I don't this is going anywhere

[Padfootia]

Unimpressed by the author reminding that SATAN Hell's founder CTEd, and believing that is worth a commendation,

You'll want "The Security Council," at the beginning, and Hell's founder was deleted by the moderators 16 years ago. Hell has faced invasion multiple times but has never been refounded and has been in native hands for a long time. That's impressive.

Knowing already that unlike some founder less communities Hell hasn't displaced,

Did you miss something ("unlike some founder less communities Hell hasn't displaced, _________________")? This is just fluff in its current state.

Unamused that the author thought Hell passwording themselves is unique,

It is unique. All members of Hell first go to Underworld until they're trusted enough to join Hell.

Annoyed that a much better job could be done describing the security of Hell,

Underlined my grammar/spelling corrections

Noting that the things that accurately describe why Hell deserves to be commended are poorly written, such as the poor presentation of their publication,

Again bolded my corrections to your writing. Ironic, isn't it?

Inspired by Hell's hardships and how they thrive to survive from invasion, but is ashamed of how that is the only thing in the commendation describing what Hell deserves a commendation,

It's not the only reason in the commendation.

Believing Hell deserves better than this mess the author scraped up, also truly knowing that a better commendation could be made to show why Hell deserves to be commended, noting that this terrible commendation Iacks many stuff, and believing Hell had earned one that truly depicts their greatness,

You really haven't provided any reasoning for this.

Hereby Repeal: Commend Hell.

"Hereby repeals Commend Hell."

Thanks for the tips.

ngl, the grammar and readability of this thing are a bit of a mess. Also, your argument mostly seems to be that commending hell for its protection system and hardships, but the commendation also brings up how good a community it is, its tolerance, and the example it provides to other regions. Unless you have some way or refuting those, I don't this is going anywhere

I believe it will go somewhere. The original commendation of Hell was poorly written and lacked quality.

[Bormiar]

Thanks for the tips.

My pleasure

[Lord Dominator]

Perhaps I could be convinced if you had a replacement draft, but as-is no support in principle.

[Kuriko]

I'm gonna have to say no to this myself, unless a replacement is drafted first. Hell is very deserving of it's commendation, and I'd rather not see it repealed.

[Padfootia]

Perhaps I could be convinced if you had a replacement draft, but as-is no support in principle.

I'm gonna have to say no to this myself, unless a replacement is drafted first. Hell is very deserving of it's commendation, and I'd rather not see it repealed.

Hmm... I was my plan was to repeal the original commendation, then I would focus on a better commendation unless someone else was doing one.
I could make a dispatch of the draft for a new commendation, but it would only be a draft and I wouldn't work on it until the original was repealed.

[Refuge Isle]

Hmm... I was my plan was to repeal the original commendation, then I would focus on a better commendation unless someone else was doing one.
I could make a dispatch of the draft for a new commendation, but it would only be a draft and I wouldn't work on it until the original was repealed.

Repealing a resolution on the grounds that it's valid but lacks quality is irrisponsible, in my opinion, without arrangements to have it replaced. You, yourself, being a replacement author would be a valid possible arrangement; however, without proof that you are both able and willing to do so, you're not providing the credibility to back overturning what's already in law.

Without an author at all, it's wishful thinking that someone is going to come along to make a replacement in the first place, and highly optimistic that the result of their work would be at the quality level you're wanting. There's no guarantee that it would be better at all.

[Padfootia]

Hmm... I was my plan was to repeal the original commendation, then I would focus on a better commendation unless someone else was doing one.
I could make a dispatch of the draft for a new commendation, but it would only be a draft and I wouldn't work on it until the original was repealed.

Repealing a resolution on the grounds that it's valid but lacks quality is irrisponsible, in my opinion, without arrangements to have it replaced. You, yourself, being a replacement author would be a valid possible arrangement; however, without proof that you are both able and willing to do so, you're not providing the credibility to back overturning what's already in law.

Without an author at all, it's wishful thinking that someone is going to come along to make a replacement in the first place, and highly optimistic that the result of their work would be at the quality level you're wanting. There's no guarantee that it would be better at all.

You make a strong argument. But I was recently telegrammed and someone was already wanting to make a replacement to it. But like I said if the original is repealed I have plans to help make a better commendation. So I believe this replacement argument is over, I'd appreciate help from anybody else.

[SherpDaWerp]

But I was recently telegrammed and someone was already wanting to make a replacement to it.

Hello everyone! That was me. Yes, I'm inexperienced as a SC Author, but I've lurked for long enough to get the general idea. I'm currently in contact with Hell regarding their thoughts on a repeal/replace of their current commendation, as well as what material I can use for a new commendation for them, so expect a possible draft sometime this week maybe.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

The Security Council

Unimpressed by the authors lack of description why Hell should be commended because their founder, SATAN was deleted,

Saying the founder was deleted is most likely an R4(c) violation. Saying they no longer exist is fine, but saying they were deleted implies a game mechanic.

As far as the rest of the draft is concerned you do not present any good or original reasons why the Commendation should be repealed. To me you just seem to state the opposite of the Commendation clauses, which is not how a repeal works.

So poorly written, poorly executed, no support from me.

[WayNeacTia]

So poorly written, poorly executed, no support from me.

Agreed. Screams of a badge hunt to me.

[Xoriet]

This is an interesting first try at the SC, but you picked a bad target. Hell's Commendation on the successful repeal block is going to take better arguments and structure before anyone is getting near taking it down. If you want to start a career in the SC, I'd recommend you pick something a little more worthwhile than attacking this particular Commendation. As it is, this one seems more of a badge hunt than a repeal attempt in good faith.

[SherpDaWerp]

Also, the contact I had with Hell suggested that they're fine with their current commendation, so no repeal/replace necessary.