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[Draft] Commend International Democratic Union

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Commend International Democratic Union
Category: Commendation | Nominee: International Democratic Union





The World Assembly,

Recalling the founding of International Democratic Union, whereby nations fleeing a coup in The North Pacific decided to form their own region during summer of 2005; and the region has since maintained its democratic elections and benevolency,

Noting that International Democratic Union is a region known best for its General Assembly authorship, wherein roughly 12% of GA resolutions, which is 54, have been authored by nations residing within the region, these nations include:
Recognising that these achievements were made possible through the regions active regional forum where veteran delegations from prolific nations are able to help newer delegations in authoring resolutions, and this has led to many nations wishing to participate in the World Assembly to relocate to International Democratic Union,

Awed by the number of important issues brought to the attention of the international community by nations residing in International Democratic Union, which totals 14,

Acknowledging that International Democratic Union is home to many commended nations which are, Separatist Peoples, Sanctaria, Bears Armed, and Sciongrad,

Further acknowledging that the region maintains active lists of General Assembly resolutions authored by nations residing in the region and issues brought to the attention of the international community; which allows it to keep track of its achievements,

Lauding the regions great cultural events held to improve interregional relations such as:
  • The Film Festival, an event in which nations are able to share films and videos, and comment on each others',
  • The Cheese Festival, in which nations compete at various culinary competitions,
  • The IDU Football Championships, whereby nations send their best footballers to represent them in intense matches,

Observing that International Democratic Union has been involved in helping combat the various Zombie Plagues that breakout internationally frequently, and has also been involved in the Canopy Faction during the most recent Nuclear Day, a Faction that was one of the largest and protected thousands of nations from radiation, and,

Believing that a region dedicated to the betterment of the international community, one that holds regular cultural events open to all regions, one that helps combat plagues detrimental to many nations, and a region that is active and has one of the longest continuous democratic government, deserves recognition by the Security Council,

Hereby,

Commends International Democratic Union.


Criticism will be appreciated!
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And after penult. Bolding is unnecessary. More feedback later.
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OOC: Bolding is just a stylistic choice that I prefer.
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Marxist Germany wrote:Noting that International Democratic Union is a region known best for its General Assembly authorship, wherein roughly 12% of GA resolutions, which is 54, have been authored by nations residing within the region, these nations include:Recognising that these achievements were made possible through the regions active regional forum where veteran delegations from prolific nations are able to help newer delegations in authoring resolutions, and this has led to many nations wishing to participate in the World Assembly to relocate to International Democratic Union,

Awed by the number of important issues brought to the attention of the international community by nations residing in International Democratic Union, which totals 14,

Acknowledging that International Democratic Union is home to many commended nations which are, Separatist Peoples, Sanctaria, Bears Armed, and Sciongrad,

"I don't think there being individuals, commended for their own actions, warrants commendation of the collective. Sure, there are commended nations in the region who have written some resolutions and some issues, but was that a directive of the region? Were those commendations and those resolutions in the greater aim of the IDU? No, they were done because each of those nations pursued them. I think it is a question of: did the IDU, because of its nature, inspire or direct those resolutions as a collective (which I doubt), or, did the overall surplus of commended nations and resolution authors actually give the IDU the nature you believe is commendation worthy?"

Marxist Germany wrote:Further acknowledging that the region maintains active lists of General Assembly resolutions authored by nations residing in the region and issues brought to the attention of the international community; which allows it to keep track of its achievements,

Lauding the regions great cultural events held to improve interregional relations such as:
  • The Film Festival, an event in which nations are able to share films and videos, and comment on each others',
  • The Cheese Festival, in which nations compete at various culinary competitions,
  • The IDU Football Championships, whereby nations send their best footballers to represent them in intense matches,

Observing that International Democratic Union has been involved in helping combat the various Zombie Plagues that breakout internationally frequently, and has also been involved in the Canopy Faction during the most recent Nuclear Day, a Faction that was one of the largest and included many commended regions such as 10000 Islands, Texas, and Yggdrasil,

Believing that a region dedicated to the betterment of the international community, one that holds regular cultural events open to all regions, one that helps combat plagues detrimental to many nations, and a region that is active and has one of the longest continuous democratic government, deserves recognition by the Security Council,

"I think a lot of the things you have included, and therefore believe factor into being worthy of commendation, are already done by many regions, such as the events, or helping out with zombie infections and nuclear wars, or keeping track of their own achievements. Is there anything you believe the IDU has saught out to do that is unique, or stands out from the things a lot of other regions already do, to contribute to the greater good on a commendation worthy level? Or, is there anything about those events, or that list of their achievements, that uniquely impacts the rest of the world?"

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Postby Fendetalia » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:30 pm

To be frank, if the place has authors that deserve commendation, go and commend the authors. The place where they reside has little to do with it.

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Postby Unibot III » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:05 pm

IDU is a mainstay of the World Assembly community. Its contributions stretch past a decade to our hallowed halls. I'm in full support of the resolution in principle.
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Postby Elke and Elba » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:32 pm

OOC: I haven't been around in these quarters lately and don't intend to come back, but I do give my reserved support on this, and I think it should be done.

Why reserved, you ask, though? https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=339017 Because Gruen/DSR would certainly not like it, and move away from IDU as he did from Wysteria. Sure, Gruen/DSR has CTEd for over a year, but I'd like to see him not region-less if he do ever come back.

I can't speak much for him, though. I'd like to see if this has the native support of IDU first though. I've sparred and worked with SP, Scion and Bears Armed in the past, and I'm sure they - amongst the other residents of IDU - would very much appreciate if they've been consulted on the proposal before it's being moved forward.

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OOC: I have consulted Bears Armed before starting this. I will try to contact other natives soon to expand upon this.
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Amazingly enough, the only three nations that you focused heavily on just all happen to be members of GenSec. Ass smoochery is a delicate art.
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Wayneactia wrote:Amazingly enough, the only three nations that you focused heavily on just all happen to be members of GenSec. Ass smoochery is a delicate art.

OOC: Maybe because they are the most prolific authors? and Gensec has no influence on the SC.
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Marxist Germany wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Amazingly enough, the only three nations that you focused heavily on just all happen to be members of GenSec. Ass smoochery is a delicate art.

OOC: Maybe because they are the most prolific authors? and Gensec has no influence on the SC.


I am sure you being quite active in the GA has nothing to do with it. 8)
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:51 pm

I have other thoughts for when I'm more in the mood to criticize, this is just the most annoying one to me.
Marxist Germany wrote:has also been involved in the Canopy Faction during the most recent Nuclear Day, a Faction that was one of the largest and included many commended regions such as 10000 Islands, Texas, and Yggdrasil,

IDU has been a Canopy (or former name Forest) member in the last three N-Days to my knowledge. Forest itself is also Commended. Additionally, with no offence to any of the myriad other member regions, you've not given really any reason why participating in the same Faction as Commended regions (as with also TGW/Lily in Hell's faction) is any more Commendable than participating in a Faction with Condemned regions (as happened with TP in UPPERCUT & TBH in Osiris/etc's).

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Lord Dominator wrote:I have other thoughts for when I'm more in the mood to criticize, this is just the most annoying one to me.
Marxist Germany wrote:has also been involved in the Canopy Faction during the most recent Nuclear Day, a Faction that was one of the largest and included many commended regions such as 10000 Islands, Texas, and Yggdrasil,

IDU has been a Canopy (or former name Forest) member in the last three N-Days to my knowledge. Forest itself is also Commended. Additionally, with no offence to any of the myriad other member regions, you've not given really any reason why participating in the same Faction as Commended regions (as with also TGW/Lily in Hell's faction) is any more Commendable than participating in a Faction with Condemned regions (as happened with TP in UPPERCUT & TBH in Osiris/etc's).

OOC: After further reflection, I actually don't know how this slipped by, it makes no sense whatsoever. I'll try to reword it to be more reflective of what they actually did.
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Lord Dominator wrote:I have other thoughts for when I'm more in the mood to criticize, this is just the most annoying one to me.
Marxist Germany wrote:has also been involved in the Canopy Faction during the most recent Nuclear Day, a Faction that was one of the largest and included many commended regions such as 10000 Islands, Texas, and Yggdrasil,

IDU has been a Canopy (or former name Forest) member in the last three N-Days to my knowledge. Forest itself is also Commended. Additionally, with no offence to any of the myriad other member regions, you've not given really any reason why participating in the same Faction as Commended regions (as with also TGW/Lily in Hell's faction) is any more Commendable than participating in a Faction with Condemned regions (as happened with TP in UPPERCUT & TBH in Osiris/etc's).

Working with commended regions maybe not(though it does say something about the character of the region), but i'd say the organisational and diplomatic work that goes into making such a successful super-faction is commendable.
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Postby Ludani » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:11 pm

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Commend International Democratic Union
Category: Commendation | Nominee: International Democratic Union





The World Assembly,

Recalling the founding of International Democratic Union, whereby nations fleeing a coup in The North Pacific decided to form their own region during summer of 2005; and the region has since maintained its democratic elections and benevolency,

Noting that International Democratic Union is a region known best for its General Assembly authorship, wherein roughly 12% of GA resolutions, which is 54, have been authored by nations residing within the region, these nations include:
Recognising that these achievements were made possible through the regions active regional forum where veteran delegations from prolific nations are able to help newer delegations in authoring resolutions, and this has led to many nations wishing to participate in the World Assembly to relocate to International Democratic Union,

Awed by the number of important issues brought to the attention of the international community by nations residing in International Democratic Union, which totals 14,

Acknowledging that International Democratic Union is home to many commended nations which are, Separatist Peoples, Sanctaria, Bears Armed, and Sciongrad,

Further acknowledging that the region maintains active lists of General Assembly resolutions authored by nations residing in the region and issues brought to the attention of the international community; which allows it to keep track of its achievements,

Lauding the regions great cultural events held to improve interregional relations such as:
  • The Film Festival, an event in which nations are able to share films and videos, and comment on each others',
  • The Cheese Festival, in which nations compete at various culinary competitions,
  • The IDU Football Championships, whereby nations send their best footballers to represent them in intense matches,

Observing that International Democratic Union has been involved in helping combat the various Zombie Plagues that breakout internationally frequently, and has also been involved in the Canopy Faction during the most recent Nuclear Day, a Faction that was one of the largest and included many commended regions such as 10000 Islands, Texas, and Yggdrasil,

Believing that a region dedicated to the betterment of the international community, one that holds regular cultural events open to all regions, one that helps combat plagues detrimental to many nations, and a region that is active and has one of the longest continuous democratic government, deserves recognition by the Security Council,

Hereby,

Commends International Democratic Union.


Criticism will be appreciated!

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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:16 pm

OOC: Draft updated, the changes are minor, however. I am awaiting feedback from IDU members so no major changes.
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:30 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:OOC: Draft updated, the changes are minor, however. I am awaiting feedback from IDU members so no major changes.

I was drafting this once upon a time.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=438341

You may find some useful things in that thread.

I’m not sure about your choices on the authorship list.

First of all, Sciongrad has resolutions via Connopolis. It’s more than 13 in the end. I’m not sure SP authored all of his while in the IDU, either, in which case I’m not sure it’s a fair attribution anyway. Where the IDU’s commendability lies is in its creation of a community that fosters good WA authorship- not as a clique for already successful authors. Sanctaria may (or may not) be a better choice, I’m not sure.

This might be worth looking at
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Awed by the number of important issues brought to the attention of the international community by nations residing in International Democratic Union, which totals 14


Does this clause refer to the number of nations in the IDU which have written issues? Or does it refer to the number of issues written by nations from the IDU? If it’s the latter, it’s inaccurate. If it’s the former, perhaps consider rephrasing for clarity.
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Candensia wrote:
Awed by the number of important issues brought to the attention of the international community by nations residing in International Democratic Union, which totals 14


Does this clause refer to the number of nations in the IDU which have written issues? Or does it refer to the number of issues written by nations from the IDU? If it’s the latter, it’s inaccurate. If it’s the former, perhaps consider rephrasing for clarity.

OOC: It is the latter, I depended on the list in the WFE dispatch.
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Postby Candensia » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:16 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Candensia wrote:
Does this clause refer to the number of nations in the IDU which have written issues? Or does it refer to the number of issues written by nations from the IDU? If it’s the latter, it’s inaccurate. If it’s the former, perhaps consider rephrasing for clarity.

OOC: It is the latter, I depended on the list in the WFE dispatch.


Took me a second, but I see where the discrepancy is. I forgot that IE’s (Sanctaria, Gnejs, Reppy) can’t be commended for their hard work writing issues done whilst also holding an editor badge because it’s (somehow) viewed an official staff action.

I’m not too familiar with the ruleset, but this determination applies not only to individual c/c but also to regional c/c?
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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:54 am

Candensia wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC: It is the latter, I depended on the list in the WFE dispatch.


Took me a second, but I see where the discrepancy is. I forgot that IE’s (Sanctaria, Gnejs, Reppy) can’t be commended for their hard work writing issues done whilst also holding an editor badge because it’s (somehow) viewed an official staff action.

I’m not too familiar with the ruleset, but this determination applies not only to individual c/c but also to regional c/c?

OOC: I am not too sure if it applies to regional C&Cs so I didn't include them just in case, if possible, could Ransium, or Jakker clarify?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:39 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Candensia wrote:
Took me a second, but I see where the discrepancy is. I forgot that IE’s (Sanctaria, Gnejs, Reppy) can’t be commended for their hard work writing issues done whilst also holding an editor badge because it’s (somehow) viewed an official staff action.

I’m not too familiar with the ruleset, but this determination applies not only to individual c/c but also to regional c/c?

OOC: I am not too sure if it applies to regional C&Cs so I didn't include them just in case, if possible, could Ransium, or Jakker clarify?

There's no logical reason why a R1 violation would be allowed in a regional C&C but not a nation C&C that I can think of.

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Postby Sanctaria » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:08 pm

I've held off commenting on this publicly because I didn't want to come down too negative about a region I adore and and tremendously loyal to, to a fault, but I don't think this is a good commendation, or a commendation I could ask my regionmates to give native support to.

Honestly I look at each argument here and think "there's nothing unique about the IDU in this" or "other regions do it better". To go through them:

  1. IDU doesn't foster GA authorship - TNP or other regions do that way better. We have a Drafting Rooms on our forum, but no one really frequents it, and those that do, don't really get much advice. We tend to point people to the NS forums. Yes, 3 of 6 GenSec are in the IDU, but that's moreso because it's a stable region, that's relatively hands-off, isn't a minnow, and doesn't force people to get involved in regional governance or whatnot. I'd also say that *because* they're in GenSec they're less likely to get involved in advising people how to draft so as to avoid any conflicts.
  2. The 3 festivals mentioned are more often than not forgotten about or don't really garner much attention when they are put on. Historically. We're getting much better at this now that we're developing into a more RP-centric region but, I still think we lag behind other regions in this regard. For e.g. Europeia is better at cultural stuff.
  3. It has commended people. So does other regions.
  4. We maintain a list of resolutions passed/issues written by people in our region - any region could do that!
  5. We participate in Z-Day. So ... does other regions? And other regions get involved in Alliances for N Day? How is this unique or commendable.
We've spent the last year really developing our regional canon and having a lot of regional RP. We've had Olympics and, yes, the aforementioned Football Championship, but we've also had a ton of political RP, we maintain a pretty good repository of IC RP Newswires, and we've developed a regional wikipedia to allow nations to develop their histories.

I think people give too much weight to the IDU because of its history of GAers, but it's important to say that it's a region that happens to have GAers, rather than a region that goes out of its way to develop GAers. I think that what's mentioned in the commendation should be mentioned in a future commendation, but I think it's too weak right now and that people should give the IDU some more time to work on it's RPing nature, and have that as the main basis as a commend - then you can add the GA stuff and the cultural stuff etc to build that kind of resolution out.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:18 pm

OOC: Thank you for your feedback, I will put this on hold as suggested.
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