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[DRAFT] Condemn Fedele

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[DRAFT] Condemn Fedele

Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:52 am

Condemn Fedele
Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Fedele | Proposed by: Youssath

The World Assembly,

UNDERSTANDING that The East Pacific represents one of the most diverse and democratically representative regions in the international community, and that Fedele has undermined the very foundations of the region by calling the Magisterium, the legislative body for The East Pacific, a "brood of vipers".

NOTING that during their term in office, Fedele has committed high crimes and demeanours against the interests of The East Pacific, such as the mass ejection of certain non-WA nations within the region which led to a decrease in regional population.

SHOCKED at the fact that Fedele has committed The East Pacific into a policy of purging "marsupials", nations that do not apply for citizenship or to the World Assembly and fly their own independent flags.

DISTURBED that Fedele has attempted to consolidate power within The East Pacific, through the following:
  • The removal of several The East Pacific's Viziers which are instrumental in the regional security and border control of The East Pacific, most notably Bachtendekuppen, Todd McCloud and Aelitia;
  • The consolidation of foreign influence from the Lone Wolves United (LWU) and the Rahl family, both of which are responsible for committing coups in the international community - in particular, the Rahl family, which was responsible for the 2008 coup d'état against The East Pacific;
  • Attempting to influence The East Pacific's June 2019 Delegate election through the Rahl family, which ultimately led to the invalidation of these votes;
  • The complete disregard of regional laws within The East Pacific, most notably the Endorsement Caps Act upon the dismissal of several The East Pacific's Viziers;
  • The complete removal of all government officials and associated parties linked with Queen Yuno at that time;
  • The recent coup d'état attempt of The East Pacific is in violation of several regional laws relevant to the democratic institutions of the region; and
  • The removal of Delegate-elect Marrabuk from The East Pacific, despite being democratically elected by residents of the region.
SINCERE in its beliefs to ensure that such actions will forever be denounced so that future generations can learn from such mistakes.

CONCLUDING that the democratically elected members of Bachtendekuppen, Todd McCloud and Aelitia should be reinstated to their rightful positions in The East Pacific, and that the actions taken by Fedele represent the opposite of regional stability within the community.

HEREBY condemns Fedele.
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In response to one of the deleted messages here by Kaboomlandia:

I was reading up the same research as what the other draft was doing (dispatch), and I can assure you that any links between both drafts are purely coincidental at the time of the making.
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Postby Mzeusia » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:57 am

"CONCLUDING that...the actions taken by [nation]Fedele[/region]..."
You need to fix the coding here.
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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 am

Mzeusia wrote:"CONCLUDING that...the actions taken by [nation]Fedele[/region]..."
You need to fix the coding here.

Apologies for my mistake. I was doing my own research while editing this and had to make several amendments to the resolution at hand here. Thanks for the feedback. :)

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:01 am

"aboriginal Australian flag" is an illegal real-world reference.

Also, a liberation is a more public way of calling attention to the coup.

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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:07 am

United Massachusetts wrote:"aboriginal Australian flag" is an illegal real-world reference.

Also, a liberation is a more public way of calling attention to the coup.

My apologies once again. The condemnation has been corrected.

I say this matter has blown into such a situation where both condemnation and liberation resolutions are in order, don't you agree? After all, we can't certainly blame The East Pacific residents here, although their fight against the cruellest violator is commendable.

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Postby Refuge Isle » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:15 am

United Massachusetts wrote:Also, a liberation is a more public way of calling attention to the coup.

I'll support either one, or both if they reached the approval stage.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:20 am

Refuge Isle wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Also, a liberation is a more public way of calling attention to the coup.

I'll support either one, or both if they reached the approval stage.

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Postby Peatiktist » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:21 am

Add the fact that he's currently couping TEP please.
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Postby Tim Stark » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:26 am

Unnecessary glory symbol to give Fedele, one that he'll be looking to attain.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:27 am

Tim Stark wrote:Unnecessary glory symbol to give Fedele, one that he'll be looking to attain.

Agreed. No support.
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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:31 am

Tim Stark wrote:Unnecessary glory symbol to give Fedele, one that he'll be looking to attain.

Hmm, if not a condemnation or a liberation as posted by UM, then what exact course of action do you want to take against someone who is threatening the democracy of one of the biggest regions in the international community? Surely, this wanton disregard for regional laws has to be condemned, right?

Peatiktist wrote:Add the fact that he's currently couping TEP please.

Consider it done soon. :)
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Postby Buranda » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:34 am

Youssath wrote:
Tim Stark wrote:Unnecessary glory symbol to give Fedele, one that he'll be looking to attain.

Hmm, if not a condemnation or a liberation as posted by UM, then what exact course of action do you want to take against someone who is threatening the democracy of one of the biggest regions in the international community? Surely, this wanton disregard for regional laws has to be condemned, right?

You forcibly replace them with the delegate elect, and blacklist them from your region as a security threat.

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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:37 am

Buranda wrote:You forcibly replace them with the delegate elect, and blacklist them from your region as a security threat.

That is a possible stance on this matter. However, I think I will leave it up to the international community and its democratic institutions to decide the fate of the vote on the condemnation of Fedele. Such actions are of grave nature, and it is worth to see what the Security Council, as a whole, feels about this.

If you were to tell me that this region was of small significance, I would have agreed with you. However, an attempted coup d'état on one of the Pacifics in the international community is something that cannot be overlooked.
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Postby Agalaesia » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:09 am

Please, let's not give Fedele any more attention than he already has.

Giving the chap a superfluous reward (condemnation) is not the way to go. Let's do something meaningful instead.
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:12 am

Agalaesia wrote:Please, let's not give Fedele any more attention than he already has.

I think that, with all of the neoliberations and general complexity of the SC in recent times, a good old-fashioned condemnation will be a welcome change of pace. This seems like the perfect opportunity to give out a criticism of recent events, in such a way that might lower the social power of Fedele within the East Pacific.
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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:20 am

Given the fast developments of the situation in The East Pacific, along with the revoking of all posting privileges for those outside The East Pacific along with the dismissal (and reappointment) of government officials in The East Pacific (thanks Concrete Slab!), it is in the best interests to immediately submit this resolution to the Security Council in due time given how one of the most democratic institutions in NationStates is being threatened at this very moment.

Scratched. I retract my full statements.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:21 am

We have no need for a half-baked condemnation attempt. Against.
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Postby Peatiktist » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:23 am

Youssath wrote:Given the fast developments of the situation in The East Pacific, along with the revoking of all posting privileges for those outside The East Pacific along with the dismissal (and reappointment) of government officials in The East Pacific (thanks Concrete Slab!), it is in the best interests to immediately submit this resolution to the Security Council in due time given how one of the most democratic institutions in NationStates is being threatened at this very moment.

Alright.
We need that proposal.

But it's nowhere close to good enough for exiting the draft stage yet.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:24 am

It's probably better to think things out a bit, tbf. The situation in TEP will sort itself out or not, but the history with Fedele will remain. There's no time limit to deal with that.
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OOC: Don't rush this to submission, Fedele won't be going anytime soon.
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Is the use of the flag really an IRL reference if its a game item and is called such by the game?
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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:29 am

Apologies for my actions. The proposal has been withdrawn at the request of the delegations here. More time will be given to properly draft out a "proper condemnation" of this resolution.

OOC: My bad, it's just that the developing situation in The East Pacific is too fast-paced for me. I will go out and take a breather for a moment.

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Postby Praeceps » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:30 am

Whoa whoa whoa. Submitted already?

There's a lot to talk about here and given you have no time for feedback (on a matter which is not time sensitive): against. I will list all the other reasons to oppose if/when this gets to vote.


Nevermind. Still opposed.
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Postby Youssath » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:34 am

Praeceps wrote:Whoa whoa whoa. Submitted already?

There's a lot to talk about here and given you have no time for feedback (on a matter which is not time sensitive): against. I will list all the other reasons to oppose if/when this gets to vote.


Nevermind. Still opposed.

Yup, it's my bad still. For this one, I will sincerely apologize for my personal mistake for rushing it. I got a bit excited about that part. :unsure:

As stated previously in the liberation resolution, we are about to see one of the largest regions in NS fall into a dictatorship. I hope that your plan is not to "leave them be" and wait for an international coalition against them, because that amount of delegations is impossible.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:39 am

Kranostav wrote:Is the use of the flag really an IRL reference if its a game item and is called such by the game?

Australia isn’t an NS concept and is a R4 violation.
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