[ABANDONED] Condemn the northern light

[Johanneslanden]

Fourthly I didn't know it was managed by the government until two days ago

If you're going to try and condemn a nation, it helps if you know your subject reasonably well >.>
It's not exactly a secret that TNL is run by the government.

[East Meranopirus]

Firstly you didn't answer

Firstly he did answer

Secondly el Fiji grande explained it to me

Secondly so what's condemnable about it?

Thirdly it's about cards!!!!!

Thirdly so what's condemnable about it?

Fourthly I didn't know it was managed by the government until two days ago

And yet you still continue with these obviously false statements in the proposal?

The poll won't be deleted
But I mean if I received card gifts but kept the then I would be unfair and FYI it's a great giveaway

And neither does The Northern Lights keep their cards. They're all used for giveaways.

[McMasterdonia]

The author is only motivated to do this as we rejected his embassy request. So he’s targeting a nation managed by the government >_>

This is despite the fact that both my predecessor and myself responded to dozens of his telegrams asking for help to set up his region.

Firstly you didn't answer
Secondly el Fiji grande explained it to me
Thirdly it's about cards!!!!!
Fourthly I didn't know it was managed by the government until two days ago

You sent me five or six telegrams in a row. I summarised my responses and replied. I’m not obligated to help you set up your forum or to meet our embassy requirements, but I gave you advice anyway. I doubt you would have even noticed TNL if we’d not rejected your embassy requests.

If you’d read the RO title for TNL it is “Regional Nation”. Almost everyone on the RMB would know it is a regional/government controlled nation. It’s very easy to find that information.

If you read your own proposal, it reads as though you’re disgusted that TNL collects these cards for our citizens. Is that what you’re going for?

[Concrete Slab]

Wait, i'm confused. Is the author for or against regional card giveaways...

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=147833

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I feel as if a mistake has been made... Please correct me if i'm wrong. <->

The poll won't be deleted
But I mean if I received card gifts but kept the then I would be unfair and FYI it's a great giveaway

Wait a minute... If he gave you cards you would keep them? Sounds like you want him to bribe you...

[Ransium]

This proposal has been withdrawn.

[WayNeacTia]

This proposal has been withdrawn.

Let's be thankful for small favors

[Montrandec]

[snip]

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

This proposal has been withdrawn.

Let's be thankful for small favors

One down, one to go.

[Marxist Germany]

OOC: It didnt even look like it was reaching qourum, it had been stuck on 12 approvals for a day.

[Praeceps]

Wait a minute... If he gave you cards you would keep them? Sounds like you want him to bribe you...

No I mean I receive for giveaways cards from anonymous players and if I kept them then I would be doing as TNL

Let me try to explain this from the top to you or anyone else that may be confused.

The North Pacific Card Lottery gives nations who endorse The North Pacific's (TNP) Delegate, and Security Council (which is responsible for the in-game security of the region) a daily chance to win legendary cards and the top 10 in each category of TNP's monthly World Assembly Development Program. To give out all of these legendaries on a daily and monthly basis, the government runs 500 nations to card farm.

In the process of finding legendary cards, a lot of other cards are found which are not needed. Hence the The North Pacific Great Card Giveaway was created to help TNP nations who are endorsing the Delegate and Security Council (or in the NPA). The giveaway exists because the government does NOT want so many cards.

You will notice that TNL does not even touch the cards in the giveaway program. I recently requested a card and it was directly transferred to me. At no point did TNL touch that card.

Hopefully this help clears this up.

[Youssath]

OOC: It didnt even look like it was reaching qourum, it had been stuck on 12 approvals for a day.

The better question is why on earth is a factually incorrect resolution such as this one being allowed to vote in the Security Council? This is quite literally, fake news.

I won't even want to stand for something that has been so dishonest before. Does the SC now allow oligarchies to exist with the consistent pumping of money?

[Tinhampton]

OOC: It didnt even look like it was reaching qourum, it had been stuck on 12 approvals for a day.

The better question is why on earth is a factually incorrect resolution such as this one being allowed to vote in the Security Council? This is quite literally, fake news.

I won't even want to stand for something that has been so dishonest before. Does the SC now allow oligarchies to exist with the consistent pumping of money?

Condemn TNL did not reach quorum, although it was at about 52 approvals for a bit.

[WayNeacTia]

The better question is why on earth is a factually incorrect resolution such as this one being allowed to vote in the Security Council? This is quite literally, fake news.

You should probably ask your delegate and founder. He has mastered it so well, he may have been the one that taught Trump.

I won't even want to stand for something that has been so dishonest before. Does the SC now allow oligarchies to exist with the consistent pumping of money?

Someone from the CCD actually has the jewels to ask this question?

[Youssath]

Condemn TNL did not reach quorum, although it was at about 52 approvals for a bit.

Must be a counter-campaign being held at the same time. Thank God, at least cooler heads prevailed for this instance, if not we are looking at a waste of the SC's time. Although, I must admit I feel bad for the author for having to spend money on his mass telegrams only to have them fail.

You should probably ask your delegate and founder. He has mastered it so well, he may have been the one that taught Trump.

Someone from the CCD actually has the jewels to ask this question?

No one says that the CCD is a saint at doing things. That fact doesn't need your opinion defending it.

I only voice my own independent views for this matter. Stop trying to bring in CCD politics whenever you step.

[Lord Dominator]

The better question is why on earth is a factually incorrect resolution such as this one being allowed to vote in the Security Council? This is quite literally, fake news.

The SC rules only obligate the barest minimum of actual factual basis, other than that anything goes.

[Wabbitslayah]

Just, No to this proposal.

[WayNeacTia]

The better question is why on earth is a factually incorrect resolution such as this one being allowed to vote in the Security Council? This is quite literally, fake news.

The SC rules only obligate the barest minimum of actual factual basis, other than that anything goes.

I don't believe there is any rule stating a condemnation needs to contain any truth at all. It can all be bullshit, and as long as it stays within the rules it is fine.

The primary responsibility for determining the standards of Security Council resolutions lies with delegates. Unless a proposal violates one of the above rules, it is unlikely to be deleted. If you don't like misspelled proposals, or proposals condemning raiders just because they're raiders, or proposals commending your region's bitterest enemies, or the way a group of nations has got together to push a particular line, it's up to you to do something about it. And the "something" is not "call the mods".

[Lord Dominator]

The SC rules only obligate the barest minimum of actual factual basis, other than that anything goes.

I don't believe there is any rule stating a condemnation needs to contain any truth at all. It can all be bullshit, and as long as it stays within the rules it is fine.

The primary responsibility for determining the standards of Security Council resolutions lies with delegates. Unless a proposal violates one of the above rules, it is unlikely to be deleted. If you don't like misspelled proposals, or proposals condemning raiders just because they're raiders, or proposals commending your region's bitterest enemies, or the way a group of nations has got together to push a particular line, it's up to you to do something about it. And the "something" is not "call the mods".

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I was referencing this bit here, which I essentially took to mean what you quoted, jut that certain bare minimums of existence are required.