[DRAFT] Condemn ANTIFA

[Kavagrad]

"you guys" I don't support what he did. And I do not align with him.

There viewtopic.php?f=12&t=467110&hilit=Antifa+fascist+pact
I hope i get your attention now

Ah yes, the Wolf Clan.

You know, that organisation that isn't Antifa.

Seriously? Are we really this incompetent?

[Rossiyaana]

"you guys" I don't support what he did. And I do not align with him.

There viewtopic.php?f=12&t=467110&hilit=Antifa+fascist+pact
I hope i get your attention now

That’s not Antifa though. And we’re discussing whether or not the region Antifa is worthy of condemnation. Not all who claim to be Anti-Fascist. OP claims to be anti-fascist too.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

And who says I am human exactly? I know a lot of people that say Jews are exactly not human.

Okay, stop right there. When you start saying stuff like that, that’s why people have a problem with you and others like you. Why would you say something like that?

Did I misunderstand what you said or did you misunderstand what I said?
When I was in exile in Farkasfalka there was 1 (yes only one, singular.) person, Kustonia, that I don't think believed Jews were human but eh. He denied it. Why would I? Because there is a serious increase of flamebaiting occurring and I am finding humor in it

[Kavagrad]

there is a serious increase of flamebaiting occurring

If you think someone is breaking the rules, go to Moderation.

[WayNeacTia]

There viewtopic.php?f=12&t=467110&hilit=Antifa+fascist+pact
I hope i get your attention now

Ah yes, the Wolf Clan.

You know, that organisation that isn't Antifa.

Seriously? Are we really this incompetent?

Did you really expect anything less?

Because there is a serious increase of flamebaiting occurring and I am finding humor in it

Where?

[Praeceps]

Unfortunately for the OP, given his refusal to engage, I will most likely be voting against and strongly urging for my region to stomp on it should it make it to vote.

That being said, given his assurance that his proposal will somehow make it to vote (yet still unwilling to respond to my constructive criticism), I'm rather inclined to work to make sure this proposal doesn't reach quorum.

You have my full support in this endeavor!

I love how he responded to your post responding to mine, but still not to mine. I don't think anything constructive will come so I'll be disengaging from this forum thread and participating with authors willing to work constructively.

Hopefully, he'll come to regret not engaging.

[Kavagrad]

Ah yes, the Wolf Clan.

You know, that organisation that isn't Antifa.

Seriously? Are we really this incompetent?

Did you really expect anything less?

Fair point.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

there is a serious increase of flamebaiting occurring

If you think someone is breaking the rules, go to Moderation.

No...

Mods don't give 2 shits
and
I dont care

[Daarwyrth]

You have my full support in this endeavor!

I love how he responded to your post responding to mine, but still not to mine. I don't think anything constructive will come so I'll be disengaging from this forum thread and participating with authors willing to work constructively.

Hopefully, he'll come to regret not engaging.

It's a pity because you really gave good pointers and well-written feedback, it makes me almost wish I was the one receiving it! If I ever make a draft for the Security Council, I'll know who to go to for feedback

[WayNeacTia]

If you think someone is breaking the rules, go to Moderation.

No...

Mods don't give 2 shits
and
I dont care

And here we go.......

[Kavagrad]

If you think someone is breaking the rules, go to Moderation.

No...

Mods don't give 2 shits
and
I dont care

Either put it in Moderation, or don't bring it up at all. That's how these here forums work, pal.

[Blueflarst]

There viewtopic.php?f=12&t=467110&hilit=Antifa+fascist+pact
I hope i get your attention now

Ah yes, the Wolf Clan.

You know, that organisation that isn't Antifa.

Seriously? Are we really this incompetent?

I am sorry for this it will not happen in the future.
I used to sympathy with the fascism until i realised their nationalism and militarism was to cover their mass murdering and evil regime.
I want to clarify with this comment i am nationalist and militarist but i do not sympathize with fascist regimes no after i saw the dimension of their mass killing

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

No...

Mods don't give 2 shits
and
I dont care

And here we go.......

sorry, I don't want to cause a threadjack just...forget it xD

[Daarwyrth]

If you think someone is breaking the rules, go to Moderation.

No...

Mods don't give 2 shits
and
I dont care

Then why even say what you said? To derail the thread so you won't have to respond to sensible commentary? I seriously think you should take a moment to calm down and rethink all of this. It's clear that you're angry and frustrated right now, which causes you to express a hostile attitude when one isn't needed, especially in a thread with a subject like this.

I understand you are frustrated that your region got raided, but instead of casting the blame only at others, try to learn from this. That way you'll avoid making the same mistakes that led to exactly this situation.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

No...

Mods don't give 2 shits
and
I dont care

Then why even say what you said? To derail the thread so you won't have to respond to sensible commentary? I seriously think you should take a moment to calm down and rethink all of this. It's clear that you're angry and frustrated right now, which causes you to express a hostile attitude when one isn't needed, especially in a thread with a subject like this.

I understand you are frustrated that your region got raided, but instead of casting the blame only at others, try to learn from this. That way you'll avoid making the same mistakes that led to exactly this situation.

I said it because someone asked. I never ever go to moderation for anything because I hate it when people go to moderation over me. And I hate hypocrisy. I did not intend to be hostile, my apologies

[Kavagrad]

If Redlandia, a fascist region (as previously discussed) held a region militarily, Antifa has every right to go in and remove it from their control. That FCN was a collaborator in the fascist occupation is irrelevant, and shouldn't be used to smear Antifa.

It is, I will admit, a bit unfair to call FCN "nazi supporters", but if you support fascists' military occupations (an act of fash-adjacency), I'm not sure what you're expecting.

Have you ever been in Redlandia's discord server after they moved from Northern Redlands? Have you talked to any of them?

They weren't fascist, and Redlandia was never a facist region. Northern Redlands (Their predecessor) arguably did allow some unorthodox things to be posted, and their founder did apparently support some of these things being posted for the memes, though Redlandia wasn't fascist, and in their discord they never posted fascistcontent and spoke out against facism numerous times. Hell, Redlandia would later go on to participate in a coalition that raided numerous fascistregions + Farkasfalka.

I can see why one could suspect that Northern Redlands was facist-sympathizer at the most logically, though their successor region certainly cannot have logically been called fascist, and even NR logically cannot have been called a fascist region at any point. That's my two cents on it.

I've clearly been unfair here, equivocating NR with it's successor. My apologies for that.

With that said, I don't believe that one misjudged raid is enough to justify a condemnation.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

Have you ever been in Redlandia's discord server after they moved from Northern Redlands? Have you talked to any of them?

They weren't fascist, and Redlandia was never a facist region. Northern Redlands (Their predecessor) arguably did allow some unorthodox things to be posted, and their founder did apparently support some of these things being posted for the memes, though Redlandia wasn't fascist, and in their discord they never posted fascistcontent and spoke out against facism numerous times. Hell, Redlandia would later go on to participate in a coalition that raided numerous fascistregions + Farkasfalka.

I can see why one could suspect that Northern Redlands was facist-sympathizer at the most logically, though their successor region certainly cannot have logically been called fascist, and even NR logically cannot have been called a fascist region at any point. That's my two cents on it.

I've clearly been unfair here, equivocating NR with it's successor. My apologies for that.

With that said, I don't believe that one misjudged raid is enough to justify a condemnation.

*cough* 4 as of now *cough*

[Daarwyrth]

Then why even say what you said? To derail the thread so you won't have to respond to sensible commentary? I seriously think you should take a moment to calm down and rethink all of this. It's clear that you're angry and frustrated right now, which causes you to express a hostile attitude when one isn't needed, especially in a thread with a subject like this.

I understand you are frustrated that your region got raided, but instead of casting the blame only at others, try to learn from this. That way you'll avoid making the same mistakes that led to exactly this situation.

I said it because someone asked. I never ever go to moderation for anything because I hate it when people go to moderation over me. And I hate hypocrisy. I did not intend to be hostile, my apologies

Take a moment to rethink this, table the draft for now and I say, sleep a night over it or maybe two. Then, come back to this thread and draft and reconsider whether you still support what you wrote here.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Align yourself with fascists and holocaust deniers, call them your friends, sooner or later people will realise that you're, at best, fascist-adjacent.

You're just bloodthirsty mate. Not enough fascists to bash? Make them up!

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

I said it because someone asked. I never ever go to moderation for anything because I hate it when people go to moderation over me. And I hate hypocrisy. I did not intend to be hostile, my apologies

Take a moment to rethink this, table the draft for now and I say, sleep a night over it or maybe two. Then, come back to this thread and draft and reconsider whether you still support what you wrote here.

I am sick with a fever and strep. It is almost night. And I am a bit tired. Maybe I will take your advice? But also this is my first actual attempt at making a World Assembly proposal so I am dedicating a lot to it.

[Kavagrad]

I've clearly been unfair here, equivocating NR with it's successor. My apologies for that.

With that said, I don't believe that one misjudged raid is enough to justify a condemnation.

*cough* 4 as of now *cough*

"No reason found" isn't the same as no reason existing. Have you considered asking someone involved what the justification for that raid was? May I suggest not making unproven claims until you actually have a shred of evidence for them?

[Gagium]

Have you ever been in Redlandia's discord server after they moved from Northern Redlands? Have you talked to any of them?

They weren't fascist, and Redlandia was never a facist region. Northern Redlands (Their predecessor) arguably did allow some unorthodox things to be posted, and their founder did apparently support some of these things being posted for the memes, though Redlandia wasn't fascist, and in their discord they never posted fascistcontent and spoke out against facism numerous times. Hell, Redlandia would later go on to participate in a coalition that raided numerous fascistregions + Farkasfalka.

I can see why one could suspect that Northern Redlands was facist-sympathizer at the most logically, though their successor region certainly cannot have logically been called fascist, and even NR logically cannot have been called a fascist region at any point. That's my two cents on it.

I've clearly been unfair here, equivocating NR with it's successor. My apologies for that.

With that said, I don't believe that one misjudged raid is enough to justify a condemnation.

Thank you.

I agree at the moment that this proposal could use some more substance and examples showing that ANTIFA has invaded more non-facist regions, among other things.

[Rossiyaana]

*cough* 4 as of now *cough*

"No reason found" isn't the same as no reason existing. Have you considered asking someone involved what the justification for that raid was?

Of course not, we’ve already established that collecting real evidence is irrelevant... right?

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

*cough* 4 as of now *cough*

"No reason found" isn't the same as no reason existing. Have you considered asking someone involved what the justification for that raid was? May I suggest not making unproven claims until you actually have a shred of evidence for them?

sir, that's why this is in the forums. I want someone to tell me the story of those regions

[Kavagrad]

Align yourself with fascists and holocaust deniers, call them your friends, sooner or later people will realise that you're, at best, fascist-adjacent.

You're just bloodthirsty mate. Not enough fascists to bash? Make them up!

I'm not involved in Antifa operations, but feel free to continue with your baseless claims.