by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:03 am
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:03 am
by Armaros » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:14 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:The Security Council;
Recognizing the extreme wrongdoing a region or nation must commit to receive this institution;
Seeing that one region has such qualities of wrongdoing, Antifa;
Noting that Antifa is not a region on it's own, but an alliance of regions, including The Leftist Assembly and The Communist Bloc, and the Pacific;
Proof of their intentions highlighted in the World Factbook Entries of regions they take over, for example, "Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same. (The Free Commonwealth, as of August 15, 2019)"
Appaled at Antifa for raiding, provoking regions (some not even fascist, just conservative) just for their ideologies, including:
a. The Free Commonwealth, a region just starting out, barely even fascist at all.
Highlighting that these regions did nothing wrong to deserve a raid, just their ideologies
Noticing that Antifa only attacks rightist regions since they are composed of leftist and communist regions, calling rightists "diseased"
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:40 am
by The Blackcat Isles » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:48 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:
Appaled at Antifa for raiding, and provoking regions that are not fascist just for their affiliation or the belief in freedom of speech, including:
a. The Free Commonwealth which was not fascist at all.
Highlighting that these regions did nothing wrong to deserve a raid, other than disagree with principles of ANTIFA
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:50 am
The Blackcat Isles wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:
Appaled at Antifa for raiding, and provoking regions that are not fascist just for their affiliation or the belief in freedom of speech, including:
a. The Free Commonwealth which was not fascist at all.
Highlighting that these regions did nothing wrong to deserve a raid, other than disagree with principles of ANTIFA
Is this particular region so special in NationStates that it deserves to be highlighted like this? If not, then you should include all the other raids you deemed unfair, as now you're offering incredibly little substance as to why ANTIFA should supposedly be condemned. In all honesty, the entirety of the draft proposal holds incredibly little substance and it's too easy to poke holes in it.
by The Blackcat Isles » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:52 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:The Blackcat Isles wrote:
Is this particular region so special in NationStates that it deserves to be highlighted like this? If not, then you should include all the other raids you deemed unfair, as now you're offering incredibly little substance as to why ANTIFA should supposedly be condemned. In all honesty, the entirety of the draft proposal holds incredibly little substance and it's too easy to poke holes in it.
Read my second post
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:55 am
The Blackcat Isles wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Read my second post
Then you need to do your own research before drafting a proposal. This comes across as incredibly lazy, as it's not the job of others to fill in YOUR proposal. You're the one who wants to put this out there, that means YOU are responsible for the information and research, not anyone else.
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:56 am
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:58 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:00 am
Aureumterra wrote:OOC: ANTIFA does raid region’s that aren’t actually fascist, and there have been attempts to condemn them before, it’s futile due to them having influence in powerful voting blocs
by The Blackcat Isles » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:00 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:The Blackcat Isles wrote:
Then you need to do your own research before drafting a proposal. This comes across as incredibly lazy, as it's not the job of others to fill in YOUR proposal. You're the one who wants to put this out there, that means YOU are responsible for the information and research, not anyone else.
I am working on it, how about you look at other parts of the resolution and continue saying how lazy I am.
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:01 am
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:IC: "Egregious punctuation mistakes and erroneous formatting, false accusations of terrorism, and unironic apologism for the supposed right of an extremist ideology (Fascism) to spread its ipso facto intolerant ideology, which, if imposed to its fullest extent, would ultimately result in totalitarianism and would dismantle every facet of tolerance and liberal democracy, as happened in virtually every country in the world community which adopted fascism. This draft is riddled with so many errors that I would be surprised if this is even submitted, much less passes quorum."
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:04 am
Aureumterra wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:IC: "Egregious punctuation mistakes and erroneous formatting, false accusations of terrorism, and unironic apologism for the supposed right of an extremist ideology (Fascism) to spread its ipso facto intolerant ideology, which, if imposed to its fullest extent, would ultimately result in totalitarianism and would dismantle every facet of tolerance and liberal democracy, as happened in virtually every country in the world community which adopted fascism. This draft is riddled with so many errors that I would be surprised if this is even submitted, much less passes quorum."
“ANTIFA is aligned with very radical regions such as the communist bloc, however, and they are known for raiding any region, even those who are very moderate.”
OOC: Even if this reaches quorum, like I said, won’t pass due to WA voting bloc corruption
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:05 am
Aureumterra wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:IC: "Egregious punctuation mistakes and erroneous formatting, false accusations of terrorism, and unironic apologism for the supposed right of an extremist ideology (Fascism) to spread its ipso facto intolerant ideology, which, if imposed to its fullest extent, would ultimately result in totalitarianism and would dismantle every facet of tolerance and liberal democracy, as happened in virtually every country in the world community which adopted fascism. This draft is riddled with so many errors that I would be surprised if this is even submitted, much less passes quorum."
“ANTIFA is aligned with very radical regions such as the communist bloc, however, and they are known for raiding any region, even those who are very moderate.”
OOC: Even if this reaches quorum, like I said, won’t pass due to WA voting bloc corruption
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:09 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Aureumterra wrote:“ANTIFA is aligned with very radical regions such as the communist bloc, however, and they are known for raiding any region, even those who are very moderate.”
OOC: Even if this reaches quorum, like I said, won’t pass due to WA voting bloc corruption
OOC: Well man, you never know
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:12 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Aureumterra wrote:“ANTIFA is aligned with very radical regions such as the communist bloc, however, and they are known for raiding any region, even those who are very moderate.”
OOC: Even if this reaches quorum, like I said, won’t pass due to WA voting bloc corruption
OOC: Well man, you never know
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:14 am
Aureumterra wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:OOC: Well man, you never know
OOC: It’s common knowledge by now that centre-left to far-left regions control the massive voting blocs, which is why the SC disproportionately condemns the Right and any attempts to condemn the left are struck down, I remember there being a dispatch on this that became quite popular…
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1197112
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:17 am
Aureumterra wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:OOC: Well man, you never know
OOC: It’s common knowledge by now that centre-left to far-left regions control the massive voting blocs, which is why the SC disproportionately condemns the Right and any attempts to condemn the left are struck down, I remember there being a dispatch on this that became quite popular…
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1197112
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:17 am
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Aureumterra wrote:OOC: It’s common knowledge by now that centre-left to far-left regions control the massive voting blocs, which is why the SC disproportionately condemns the Right and any attempts to condemn the left are struck down, I remember there being a dispatch on this that became quite popular…
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1197112
OOC: Or it's because left-of-centre policies are popular in overall and almost nobody would seriously consider endorsing neoliberalism (The contemporary dogma of the right ever since Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher started the project of mass privatization and dismantlement of welfare states beginning in the late 1970s-early 1980s) after the disaster of 2008. Hell, even the fundamentalist wiki that is Conservapedia condemns neoliberalism as " a prime example of social darwinism", in spite of the fact they are known for labelling anyone who opposes their views as a "socialist", so that should tell you something about how unpopular laissez-faire austerity economics are these days.
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:19 am
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:21 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Aureumterra wrote:OOC: It’s common knowledge by now that centre-left to far-left regions control the massive voting blocs, which is why the SC disproportionately condemns the Right and any attempts to condemn the left are struck down, I remember there being a dispatch on this that became quite popular…
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1197112
OOC: Yes but it might strike a point, and you don't have you don't have to be conservative to see ANTIFA is broken
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:24 am
Aureumterra wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:OOC: Or it's because left-of-centre policies are popular in overall and almost nobody would seriously consider endorsing neoliberalism (The contemporary dogma of the right ever since Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher started the project of mass privatization and dismantlement of welfare states beginning in the late 1970s-early 1980s) after the disaster of 2008. Hell, even the fundamentalist wiki that is Conservapedia condemns neoliberalism as " a prime example of social darwinism", in spite of the fact they are known for labelling anyone who opposes their views as a "socialist", so that should tell you something about how unpopular laissez-faire austerity economics are these days.
OOC: The same guy made a follow-up dispatch addressing this https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1197835
NS has a roughly even amount of people on all sides of the political spectrum, just go on NSG for that, WA voting bloc corruption does happen, and it’s common knowledge by now. The point is that the OP shouldn’t be too optimistic about this because the system has many flaws and biases against this proposal
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:25 am
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Aureumterra wrote:OOC: The same guy made a follow-up dispatch addressing this https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1197835
NS has a roughly even amount of people on all sides of the political spectrum, just go on NSG for that, WA voting bloc corruption does happen, and it’s common knowledge by now. The point is that the OP shouldn’t be too optimistic about this because the system has many flaws and biases against this proposal
OOC: If your policies didn't cause massive financial crises and stock market crashes every 3-7 years, and didn't exacerbate political corruption and the already severe gaps between incomes in Western countries or cause the deaths of tens of thousands in the U.S. alone every year due to a lack of access to healthcare for instance, then you would enjoy a far higher representation on the WA than you do in our timeline. My 50 cents here.
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:25 am
Aureumterra wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:OOC: Yes but it might strike a point, and you don't have you don't have to be conservative to see ANTIFA is broken
OOC: People know Antifa is broken, they’re too influential to have this passed though, they pull the strings on many left wing voting blocs
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