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Postby 2nd Imperial German Reich » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:10 am

Security Council Resolution #263 “Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

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Pleased by the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators attempts at creating a democratic assembly called the Civil Congress;

Reminding that every independent region within the multiverse has the right to determine its own foreign policy and should not be condemned about it;

Noting that every independent region and its citizens have the right to self determination, and that all nations have joined the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators voluntarily, and are in agreement with our ideas;

Deeply Concerned about the previous Liberation Proposal, which was only drafted and spoke about ideological lines and is in violation of the right to self determination, both politically and culturally;

Worried by the futile attempts of other regions at discrediting and undermining the presence of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators on the international stage;

Celebrating the fact that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators neither encourages nor discourages any ideology, and that everyone is welcome in the region;

Disgusted by certain accusations regarding promotion of far-right ideologies;

Outlining the existence of an Executive Founder that is part of the Governing Body of the Confederation, as well as the existence of Undersecretaries;

hereby REPEALS Security Council Resolution # 263 (Liberate Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators)

Authored by Marrum Graecia
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Postby Marrum Graecia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:11 am

Just waiting to see why people would disagree with it.

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Postby Kuriko » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:17 am

No support
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Postby Marrum Graecia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:19 am

Kuriko wrote:No support


Instead of saying "no support" in an immature and childish way, clarify and explain why aren't you supporting it. You are a WA Delegate and you don't seem to be acting like the role demands you to.

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Postby 2nd Imperial German Reich » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:19 am

Kuriko wrote:No support

Would you mind telling us why we are gaining no support?
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:31 am

*Looks at the region that the author and co-author are in*

Region: Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.

A self-repeal? Ha. No. No support.
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Postby Marrum Graecia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:33 am

a "self repeal"

I wouldn't call it that. You have to stop thinking in that way, and instead look at the facts.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:33 am

OOC: CCD member here, I want the liberation repealed as well, but I’ll have to give honest feedback: This proposal is such a missed opportunity and a dumpster fire at the same time, I would recommend drafting all proposals here on the forums before hastily submitting, as it allows for contribution of ideas and clauses. There is much more that could’ve been added regarding the ethical validation of offensive liberations, as that was what the intent was for Lord Dominator’s original proposal. Self repeals are also massively frowned upon in the WA community, and it would’ve been great if you guys had consulted some more experienced WA participants in the CCD (There are a few). Anyways, I don’t expect this going very far
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Postby Marrum Graecia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:36 am

I'm not gonna be stopped by WA stereotypes that have only come to exist because a select few believe so. This proposal is what I and German believed should have in it, and although I agree with the consultation part, it was done hastily and we did not think of it.

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Postby 2nd Imperial German Reich » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:44 am

While I will admit that the proposal was drafted rather quickly, and that it could be formatted and worded better, there are still statements that are true. The original liberation resolution only brought up the fascist ties to the Confederation, even though the CCD never encouraged nor actively supported them.
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:51 am

Just no. The CoCD has been given plenty of feedback on how to improve and they've made nothing more than very grudging, token efforts to do so.
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Postby Armaros » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:52 am

*rolls eyes*

I see the fascists are back trying to deny they’re fascists. How often have we been over this?

EDIT: let me comment on the actual draft:

2nd Imperial German Reich wrote:Security Council Resolution #263 “Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The Security Council,

Pleased by the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators attempts at creating a democratic assembly called the Civil Congress;

Who gives a shit about CCD’s internal affairs?

Reminding that every independent region within the multiverse has the right to determine its own foreign policy and should not be condemned about it;

Oh my. That is completely false; otherwise, the entire SC condemnation would be useless.

Noting that every independent region and its citizens have the right to self determination, and that all nations have joined the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators voluntarily, and are in agreement with our ideas;

Good for them. The SC as a whole, however, clearly does not agree.

Deeply Concerned about the previous Liberation Proposal, which was only drafted and spoke about ideological lines and is in violation of the right to self determination, both politically and culturally;

Another pile of nonsense. “Muh freedom of speech!” Is not an argument that worked on these proposals.

Worried by the futile attempts of other regions at discrediting and undermining the presence of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators on the international stage;

I’m not even sure what you hope to accomplish with this line.

Celebrating the fact that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators neither encourages nor discourages any ideology, and that everyone is welcome in the region;

We should celebrate that you harbour fascists now?

Disgusted by certain accusations regarding promotion of far-right ideologies;

Embassies with Nazi Europa, TIC and various other fascist regions, check.
Self commends hailing CCD harbouring fascists as a good thing, check.
Any evidence of CCD not being fascist, notably absent.

Outlining the existence of an Executive Founder that is part of the Governing Body of the Confederation, as well as the existence of Undersecretaries;

I love how you try to play both the “we’re innocent!” and the “It doesn’t do anything to us” cards at the same time.

hereby REPEALS Security Council Resolution # 263 (Liberate Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators)

Authored by Marrum Graecia
Co-Authored by 2nd Imperial German Reich

Oh look, two CCD members as authors. What a surprise.
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Postby 2nd Imperial German Reich » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:59 am

Armaros wrote:*rolls eyes*

I see the fascists are back trying to deny they’re fascists. How often have we been over this?

The entirety of the CCD is not fascist. They’re are some fascist nations in the region, but that is their choice and does not represent the entire views of the Confederation
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Postby Kuriko » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:02 am

Marrum Graecia wrote:
Kuriko wrote:No support


Instead of saying "no support" in an immature and childish way, clarify and explain why aren't you supporting it. You are a WA Delegate and you don't seem to be acting like the role demands you to.

I'm not acting childish in any way what-so-ever. I don't really feel the need to clarify why I am giving no support.

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Kuriko wrote:No support

Would you mind telling us why we are gaining no support?

However, since you asked a bit nicer than your friend instead of attacking my maturity level I'll explain. CCD is a fascist region, or widely regarded to be one even though y'all have tried to clean up your act. Your region constantly spams WA telegrams for no reason, and poaches members from established UCRs. Your region also raids other regions, so you won't find me supporting this on those grounds either.
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Postby Armaros » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:19 am

2nd Imperial German Reich wrote:
Armaros wrote:*rolls eyes*

I see the fascists are back trying to deny they’re fascists. How often have we been over this?

The entirety of the CCD is not fascist. They’re are some fascist nations in the region, but that is their choice and does not represent the entire views of the Confederation

Yeah uh do you want me to call bullshit now or pretend a bit longer?

Which is aside from your embassies with a boatload of fascist regions, including The Iron Confederacy and Nazi Europa.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:56 am

Armaros wrote:
2nd Imperial German Reich wrote:The entirety of the CCD is not fascist. They’re are some fascist nations in the region, but that is their choice and does not represent the entire views of the Confederation

Yeah uh do you want me to call bullshit now or pretend a bit longer?

Which is aside from your embassies with a boatload of fascist regions, including The Iron Confederacy and Nazi Europa.

OOC: largest collection of fascist nations in the world doesn’t mean every single nation is a fascist, the vast majority aren’t. Almost everyone OOC is a moderate/mainstream ideologue, and there are embassies with authoritarian regions, some of which are fascist and some are not (communist and monarchist regions have embassies as well)

CCD is an authoritarian region, which encompasses but is not exclusive to fascism
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:00 am

Marrum Graecia wrote:a "self repeal"

I wouldn't call it that. You have to stop thinking in that way, and instead look at the facts.

I would, because that's exactly what it is.

And I am looking at the facts. The original liberation concerned CCD. Both author and co-author of the repeal are members of CCD. It is therefore a self-repeal. Facts.
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Armaros wrote:
2nd Imperial German Reich wrote:The entirety of the CCD is not fascist. They’re are some fascist nations in the region, but that is their choice and does not represent the entire views of the Confederation

Yeah uh do you want me to call bullshit now or pretend a bit longer?

Which is aside from your embassies with a boatload of fascist regions, including The Iron Confederacy and Nazi Europa.

It has been repeatedly suggested to them that closing said embassies would go some way towards mending the negative perceptions that people have of them, but they have repeatedly quibbled and split hairs about whether they are fascist regions at all ( :roll: ) and have therefore let the embassies stay.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Armaros wrote:Yeah uh do you want me to call bullshit now or pretend a bit longer?

Which is aside from your embassies with a boatload of fascist regions, including The Iron Confederacy and Nazi Europa.

It has been repeatedly suggested to them that closing said embassies would go some way towards mending the negative perceptions that people have of them, but they have repeatedly quibbled and split hairs about whether they are fascist regions at all ( :roll: ) and have therefore let the embassies stay.


Yeah basically this. Weirdly their leader (Jocospur) seemed actually on board with those suggestions. It wasn't until their WA delegate llamaland put him in his place that they were turned down.
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Caracasus wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It has been repeatedly suggested to them that closing said embassies would go some way towards mending the negative perceptions that people have of them, but they have repeatedly quibbled and split hairs about whether they are fascist regions at all ( :roll: ) and have therefore let the embassies stay.


Yeah basically this. Weirdly their leader (Jocospur) seemed actually on board with those suggestions. It wasn't until their WA delegate llamaland put him in his place that they were turned down.

OOC: I can’t speak for the Supreme Council, but a look on the CCD discord will show you a very vocal opposition to these embassies
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Aureumterra wrote:Almost everyone OOC is a moderate/mainstream ideologue, and there are embassies with authoritarian regions,

ooc: It's just too bad that the SC is a fully IC institution, and that the OoC stances of people have zero bearing on whether a resolution is justified or not. :blush:
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Caracasus wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It has been repeatedly suggested to them that closing said embassies would go some way towards mending the negative perceptions that people have of them, but they have repeatedly quibbled and split hairs about whether they are fascist regions at all ( :roll: ) and have therefore let the embassies stay.


Yeah basically this. Weirdly their leader (Jocospur) seemed actually on board with those suggestions. It wasn't until their WA delegate llamaland put him in his place that they were turned down.

OOC:Just for note, SLL was never delegate
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