[DRAFT] Repeal "Condemn Allied States of EuroIslanders"

[Cormactopia Prime]

Repeal "Condemn Allied States of EuroIslanders"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resolution: SC#73 | Proposed by: Cormactopia Prime

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Description: WA Security Council Resolution #73: Condemn Allied States of EuroIslanders shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The Security Council:

Acknowledging admissions by EuroSoviets that Allied States of EuroIslanders and the Red Liberty Alliance, of which Allied States of EuroIslanders was a founding member region, participated in acts of forum destruction, and that such acts included destruction of forums belonging to The Black Hawks, The DEN, Invaders Army, and Torino, potentially among others;

Reaffirming its contempt for those acts of forum destruction as well as all acts of cultural destruction against regional communities, in whatever form such destruction may take, whether perpetrated on the initiative of individual nations or at the behest of regional governments or other organizations;

Reiterating its disgust with the supportive attitudes expressed by some of the nations of Allied States of EuroIslanders, especially EuroSoviets, for the aforementioned acts of forum destruction at the time those offenses were committed and for years after the fact;

Recalling that following the final known act of forum destruction committed by agents of the Red Liberty Alliance, the organization conducted an investigation of the offense and punished the nations responsible for that act while also prohibiting forum destruction;

Observing that the Security Council has previously repealed SC#27: Condemn Unknown for the acts of forum destruction perpetrated by its intelligence agent against Crusaders of Justice and The Council of Narnia, because Unknown eventually took steps similar to those taken by the Red Liberty Alliance;

Noting that many nations responsible for acts of forum destruction and regions that have harbored such nations have not been condemned by the nations and regions of the world through this institution for those destructive acts;

Reflecting that the Security Council may not be the best medium through which to address acts of forum destruction, due to the Security Council's nature as an interregional and international political institution, and that it may be more appropriate for regional governments and administrations to handle acts of forum destruction by punishing the nations responsible and isolating regions that provide them with safe haven;

Determining that interregional and international standards have evolved to address acts of forum destruction through the aforementioned alternative methods, appropriately punishing and isolating the nations and regions responsible for forum destruction without politicization, and that SC#73 is a relic of a bygone era which should be expunged from the Security Council's records to reflect this new global consensus;

Hereby Repeals SC#73: Condemn Allied States of EuroIslanders.

I have authored this draft, which is based in part on an earlier draft of mine, in the event that the current proposal authored by Numero Capitan and submitted by Erinor fails to achieve quorum or, more likely, fails at vote. While I support the other draft, I do believe this draft is superior to the other draft in many respects, particularly with regard to taking Allied States of EuroIslanders to task for its involvement in forum destruction, and I believe this draft is much more likely to reflect interregional consensus and therefore much more likely to pass than the other draft.

[Lord Dominator]

I personally would have focused more on the 'SC is innapropiate Avenue', but support I believe.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I personally would have focused more on the 'SC is innapropiate Avenue', but support I believe.

I'm limited in what I can do there while still complying with R4, I think, but if you have suggestions I'm certainly open to them.

[RiderSyl]

Support.

[Lord Dominator]

I personally would have focused more on the 'SC is innapropiate Avenue', but support I believe.

I'm limited in what I can do there while still complying with R4, I think, but if you have suggestions I'm certainly open to them.

Actually I more meant having less other stuff, but upon rereading I may have seen more clauses than there are, as only 1-2 are ones that don't fit in the aforementioned scheme (noting & maybe observing).

Odd critique withdrawn

[Numero Capitan]

Obviously I don’t disagree with the aim of this, but I’m slightly against bombarding delegates with the same repeal (different wording) twice in a month as a general rule.

This isn’t something I’m particularly desperate to pursue it just struck me as one of several oddity’s on the SCs books, but if you can get wider support for the repeal this way then go for it.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Obviously I don’t disagree with the aim of this, but I’m slightly against bombarding delegates with the same repeal (different wording) twice in a month as a general rule.

This isn’t something I’m particularly desperate to pursue it just struck me as one of several oddity’s on the SCs books, but if you can get wider support for the repeal this way then go for it.

I'm not planning to submit the proposal right away. Going to leave the draft up for a while for feedback, and to allow time for a cooldown period.

Thanks for the support, and sorry to see your repeal proposal didn't make quorum.

[Eumaeus]

I kept putting off giving feedback on this draft because I knew I had a lot to say, but have a couple minutes to spare right now, so:

The Security Council:

Acknowledging admissions by EuroSoviets that Allied States of EuroIslanders and the Red Liberty Alliance, of which Allied States of EuroIslanders was a founding member region, participated in acts of forum destruction, including destruction of forums belonging to The Black Hawks, The DEN, Invaders Army, and Torino, potentially among others;

I have three pieces of feedback on this clause. First, neither this draft nor the resolution it would repeal establishes who EuroSoviets is and why their word is credible, and while it is obviously pretty easy to figure out that they are the founder it may be worth mentioning in the text of the proposal. Second, the phrase "founding member region" just reads kind of awkwardly to me. Maybe get rid of "region", maybe add in a hyphen, idk. Lastly, this clause is a bit wordy, especially for an introduction clause. I edited out some of the less necessary text in hopes of addressing that.

Reaffirming its contempt for those acts of forum destruction as well as all acts of cultural destruction against regional communities, in whatever form such destruction may take,whether perpetrated on the initiative of individual nations or at the behest of regional governments or other organizations;

I wanted to point out the existence of the term "cultural genocide" as a potential replacement for "cultural destruction". I am not necessarily suggesting that it be used, because it includes a word with a great deal of weight behind it and is often confused with the concept of ethnocide, however the full term "cultural genocide" is typically used to refer to the destruction of cultural artifacts, practices, and sites of significance, which is very close to what your use of "cultural destruction" is referring to. Again, it's a loaded term and I understand if there is no interest in using it, I just thought I would point it out.

Also, I think the struck section is implied by the expansion of the SC's contempt from just "specific type of destruction" to include "all acts of destruction". The word "acts" in "all acts of cultural destruction" could be changed to "forms" to reinforce this message while still keeping the clause as concise as possible.

Reiterating its disgust with the supportive attitudes expressed by some of the nations of Allied States of EuroIslanders, especially EuroSoviets, for the aforementioned acts of forum destruction at the time those offenses were committed and for years after the fact;

Recalling that following the final known act of forum destruction committed by agents of the Red Liberty Alliance, the organization conducted an investigation of the offense and punished the nations responsible for that act while also prohibiting future acts of forum destruction;

I made a minor edit to this clause.

Observing that the Security Council has previously repealed SC#27: Condemn Unknown for the acts of forum destruction perpetrated by its intelligence agent against Crusaders of Justice and The Council of Narnia, because Unknown eventually took steps similar to those taken by the Red Liberty Alliance;

This clause is in desperate need of an overhaul. It provides an explanation for the Condemnation where it should provide an explanation for the Repeal. I think I've rephrased it to explain the precedent you are citing while also providing the context you are trying to include:

Observing that the Security Council has previously repealed SC#27: Condemn Unknown on the basis that Unknown eventually took similar steps to address acts of forum destruction perpetrated by an intelligence agent against Crusaders of Justice and The Council of Narnia;

I should comment that I am not sure it is necessary to specify what regions Unknown's forum destruction was committed against.

Noting that many nations responsible for acts of forum destruction and regions that have harbored them have not been condemned by the nations and regions of the world through this institution for those destructive acts;

This clause is a bit wordy too.

Reflecting that the Security Council may not be the best medium through which to address acts of forum destruction, due to the Security Council's nature as an interregional and international political institution, and that it may be more appropriate for regional governments and administrations to handle acts of forum destruction by punishing the nations responsible and isolating regions that provide them with safe haven;

I'll go ahead and go on record that I agree with the argument that OOC actions that fall towards the darker grey area of morality (forum destruction, Predator, doxxing, etc.) should not be handled by Security Council Condemnations but rather by the interregional community, which I agree has evolved to the point where most of these actions would result in severe consequences for any nations and regions willing to commit them. That being said, and keeping in mind that I am well aware of the R4 restrictions at play here, I think that a layperson would have a very difficult time trying to understand the argument in this clause. From an IC perspective, why would the SC not have jurisdiction over what is widely treated as a warcrime?

I think that this clause should be scrapped. It will be confusing to anyone not in the loop, and only serves the purpose of declaring a precedent for future instances of this sort of OOC behavior. I think that a better tactic would be to skip straight to the evolution of international standards, followed by a declaration that the decisive and consequential response of the international community to acts of forum destruction has proven itself to be superior to Security Council Condemnation as both a form of deterrence and a form of retribution.

Focusing on the strength of the alternative, as opposed to the weakness of the Security Council in this area, still accomplishes the goal of establishing a preferable course of action for dealing with forum destruction, yet does not unnecessarily restrict future SC authors should the need for the SC to act against a perpetrator of OOC acts such as these ever arise.

Determining that since the enactment of SC#73 interregional and international standards have evolved to address acts of forum destruction by appropriately punishing and isolating culpable nations and regions without politicization, and that SC#73 is a relic of a bygone era which should be expunged from the Security Council's records to reflect this new global consensus;

Hereby Repeals SC#73: Condemn Allied States of EuroIslanders.

[Great Algerstonia]

I support this.

[Ramaeus]

Nice work, Cormac.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Just a quick note to thank Eumaeus for the suggestions. I'll be implementing some of them before submission, which will still be a while.