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Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:56 amby Bhang Bhang Duc
Ilefeb wrote:The Rejected Realms are full of nations that have been ejected and banned from other regions. Many of these nations are trolls, fascists, and racists. Yet, we need to commend this region? I fail to understand.
While what you say has some truth to it, the vast majority of TRR citizens cannot be labelled as such. TRR has built up a unique culture over the years, something that should be recognised.
Unfortunately, like the author’s previous attempts to Commend them, this proposal falls far short of properly recognizing the quality that the region possesses.
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:21 pmby Marxist Germany
"Marxist Germany will be voting against this resolution. We believe the Rejected Realms have done much more and do not deserve to be commended by this rather appalling piece of legislation."
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:22 pmby Ilefeb
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Ilefeb wrote:The Rejected Realms are full of nations that have been ejected and banned from other regions. Many of these nations are trolls, fascists, and racists. Yet, we need to commend this region? I fail to understand.
No one said the rejected realms was a prison meant for delinquents. Your comment are very misleading and fails to account the different reasoning a person or player bans ppl.
I do not think it is a 'prison,' I am fully aware that nations that do not desire to be in TRR can just leave. For that reason, I stand with what I said earlier, because everyone in that region has chosen to accept the racist, fascists, and trolling nations. Even if the majority of the TRR is not.
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:While what you say has some truth to it, the vast majority of TRR citizens cannot be labelled as such. TRR has built up a unique culture over the years, something that should be recognised.
Unfortunately, like the author’s previous attempts to Commend them, this proposal falls far short of properly recognizing the quality that the region possesses.
I feel like all regions have a culture of some sort. I don't think its enough for a commendation though.
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:23 pmby The Church of Satan
Ilefeb wrote:I do not think it is a 'prison,' I am fully aware that nations that do not desire to be in TRR can just leave. For that reason, I stand with what I said earlier, because everyone in that region has chosen to accept the racist, fascists, and trolling nations. Even if the majority of the TRR is not.
You say that as if we have a choice in the matter. What would you have us do? Eject them? Ban them? Oh wait- it appears we have never had that luxury.
Ilefeb wrote:I feel like all regions have a culture of some sort. I don't think its enough for a commendation though.
Every region does have its culture. However we built ours from the outcasts, rejected and unwanted of the entire NationStates world. Long ago, back in 2003 celebrated rejects like Crazygirl (a former game mod even!) came together and made The Rejected Realms a region independent of foreign control. This became the foundation for The Rejected Realms as we know it today. We couldn't pick and choose which nations were "good enough" to stay like literally every other region can. So we looked at what we had and ran with it. We used that as a basis for a culture spent giving second chances to the unforgivable and guess what? It didn't just work. Our region flourished. No other region can honestly make such a claim. That is most certainly worthy of commendation.
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:57 amby United Lammunist Republic
Should have waited for April Fools day next year to submit this, you might have gained a little more support for the joke that is this piece of legislation.
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:03 amby Candlewhisper Archive
Ilefeb wrote:For that reason, I stand with what I said earlier, because everyone in that region has chosen to accept the racist, fascists, and trolling nations. Even if the majority of the TRR is not.
Interesting... so you assert that the flaw of TRR is that it is too tolerant?
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:28 pmby New Sayoni
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Ilefeb wrote:For that reason, I stand with what I said earlier, because everyone in that region has chosen to accept the racist, fascists, and trolling nations. Even if the majority of the TRR is not.
Interesting... so you assert that the flaw of TRR is that it is too tolerant?
In my opinion, there *is* such a thing as too tolerant. As in, being tolerant of hate and bigotry
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:03 pmby Eumaeus
Ilefeb wrote:I do not think it is a 'prison,' I am fully aware that nations that do not desire to be in TRR can just leave. For that reason, I stand with what I said earlier, because everyone in that region has chosen to accept the racist, fascists, and trolling nations. Even if the majority of the TRR is not.
You do understand that the only alternative to them accepting the racists, fascists, and trolls would involve leaving the region, allowing the racists, fascists, and trolls to take control, correct?
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:28 pmby Imperium Anglorum
I'm shocked, shocked to find that a lack of banning is going on in the Rejected Realms.
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:42 pmby Glacikaldr
"As a nation of trolls, fascists, and racists, I hereby support this resolution".
As for the propaganda that we had the first military of ALL TIME in NationStates, I'm glad to see it's spreading well. Though, technically, The current TRR doesn't even have a military as the RRA insists it is a separate entity to the government since the beginning OF TIME ITSELF.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:05 amby Creslonia
"The Republic of Creslonia will be voting against this resolution. Although it has imrpoved significantly since initial drafts, the included clauses do not provide any overwhelming reasons for why The Rejected Realms are deserving of a commendation. Also, the author's crediblity (previous indecisiveness regarding putting forward this proposal) and their general lack of in-depth knowledge of The Rejected Realms has done nothing other than convince the Foreign Ministry from not even presenting this to the Prime Minister."
- Alexander Finch, Minister of Foreign Affairs
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:58 pmby Shaktirajya
We, the People's Hindu Matriarchy of Shaktirajya, hereby vote AGAINST this resolution in concert with Our regional delegate St. Mark. That is all.
Vaktaha Samajavadinaha Matarajyasya Shaktirajyasya
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:36 amby Thorackistan
IC: "Supreme Dictator and Thorackistan were kicked out of The Communist Bloc to the Rejected Realms because we were not communist. Though they seem like a region of good nature, we do not support this region because ... well, we just don't like it!
"
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:40 pmby Hatterleigh
Hey wait, this is my region! Out of all the times I decide to check the WA after months of not even caring what was on there, this is the vote? Crazy coincidence
Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:53 pmby Fulford
"This piece of legislation is rather appalling, on the contrary The Rejected Realms does deserve commendation for their noble efforts within our world, Fulford hereby votes for this resolution!"
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Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:48 amby Bhang Bhang Duc
"Commend the Rejected Realms" was defeated 10,672 votes to 2,567.
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Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:23 pmby Greater Cesnica
Well, it's been defeated. I thank everyone who supported me on this resolution, and hope that those who opposed it may collaborate with me in the future.
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Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:37 pmby East Meranopirus
Greater Cesnica wrote:and hope that those who opposed it may collaborate with me in the future.
Perhaps they will if you show that you're willing to listen.