VW53Aland wrote:Oh, that's sad. When I buy a card, I gain the card and my amount of bank is reduced by the auctioned price. My money is transferred to the seller. How someone is capable of stealing that money afterwards is seriously complete unknown to me. But hey, keep people in the dark and certainly don't supply facts and figures or examples. That is apparently how large portions of NS and everything involved are meant to be played.
VW53Aland wrote:Lastly, the resolution states that the nominee has "stolen transferred bank". Set aside whether the mentioning of "bank" is illegal or not, by the way the market works, it would technically be impossible to 'steal transferred bank'. Even without mentioning specifically
transferred bank, an amount in bank would generally be impossible to steal.
Greetings, fellow WA member. For the record, this nation is affiliated with the card collector "The Oblong Collective," and as such I hope I have the experience required to explain the concept.
So I agree that the wording could be edited. It's more like "stolen bank that was in the process of being transferred." In your first quote, from the perspective of the buyer (bidder), you would be correct. You get the card, and your bank is given in order to get that card.
However, what if, technically, you are trying to sell a card to an account owned by you, the all-encompassing warlord who has managed to conquer two (or possibly more) otherwise semi-autonomous provinces?
That the Oblong Collective and other related nations like this one are similarly ruled by a single warlord is a clear attempt at libel, and is irrelevant here.In such a situation, you would want that bank to end up in the hands of the nation of yours that is asking, no? And here is where the problem lies. Other users, known as "under-askers", post asks (sell offers) that happen to be just under the amount requested by the bidding nation, and thus listed right under your sell offer. As such, when the auction ends, they receive that bank. The bank was, indeed, never 'stolen' after the fact. And if you never post these "transfers" (or both buying nation and selling nation are under your control) in the first place your bank will never get stolen, but there is no other convenient way of transferring the amount of bank between nations that you own.
An example of this is as follows:
I have an account with, say, 5 bank.
I want to give that bank to another of my accounts, and I cannot do so directly.
That account I want to give the bank to has a card.
So I offer to sell that card for 5 bank, and have the account with 5 bank place a bid offer for 5 bank.
Now a new auction is under way.
Before that auction ends, some other user offers to sell the same card for 4.99 bank. Now, that user will receive the 5 bank if the auction goes through.
The auction completes! The card that I was trying to sell to my account with 5 bank is still in my possession, but the 5 bank now belongs to the other player. My account that had 5 bank, is now short 5 bank. It would have been otherwise, of course, but that 5 bank could have gone to the account that I wanted to transfer 5 bank to.
If you cannot understand how this would be frustrating, you must have the patience of a saint.