[SUBMITTED] Condemn Clavonian Empire

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[SUBMITTED] Condemn Clavonian Empire

Postby The Henry Empire » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:27 pm

Aware that during the Clavonian Empire's existence, it may have performed actions considered by most to be benevolent,

Recognizing that the Clavonian Empire has created puppet nations within its region, Salutations, on multiple occasions in order to subvert democracy and ensure its preferred election outcome,

Emphasizing that the Clavonian Empire took no action to end a war (begun by several member nations of Salutations) between its region and a region with which it had an embassy, the Gordo Alliance of Got Beef in May of 2018,

Revealing that after the first war had come to a peaceful end, the Clavonian Empire allowed its member nations to suppress messages by and eject and ban the Gordo Embassy to Salutations, which had been allowed to stay in Salutations, re-igniting the conflict,

Understanding that it was the Clavonian Empire's blatant disregard for the say of Salutations' member nations (e.g. Pax Americanae, Anschlabaum, Mens Alveo) that resulted in a brief civil war within the region, along with the formation of the region Rolling Thunder,

Appalled that the Clavonian Empire endorsed an invasion of the Gordo Alliance of Got Beef in April of 2019 after roughly a year of peace, with said invasion almost causing the erasing of the Gordo Alliance's ~2 years of history,

Reiterating that the Clavonian Empire has never made any effort to quell or come out against calls for invasion by members of Salutations against other regions, including the Gordo Alliance and the International Sovereignty Pact, and also supported an invasion of Rolling Thunder,

Hereby condemns the Clavonian Empire.

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Postby Nightkill » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:41 pm

I don't really see this as condemn worthy tbh. It seems like there's very few reasons for condemnation, and not really enough to warrant international SC recognition.
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:44 pm

"Location: The Gordo Alliance of Got Beef"

And no drafting. And what Kuriko said above. That's three strikes - I'm voting AGAINST this one, if it miraculously gets to vote.

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Postby Hijlistan Arg » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:39 pm

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Postby Clavonian Empire » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:14 pm

Good luck passing this thing mate... but if anyone is worthy of a condemnation, it's your region.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:44 pm

Nothing here really condemn worthy I’m afraid. Should sink without trace and deservedly so.
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Postby Castropeda » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:11 pm

I echo the sentiments of the other people in this thread. This is pretty pathetic tbh.

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Postby Kenway Island » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:33 pm

Castropeda wrote:I echo the sentiments of the other people in this thread. This is pretty pathetic tbh.

You side with Clavin and have already harassed me with telegrams so... I'm not shocked :eyebrow:

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 pm

Castropeda wrote:I echo the sentiments of the other people in this thread. This is pretty pathetic tbh.

The mods have a fairly low opinion of people who use their own puppets to show support for proposals. I'm not quite sure how to react when you use your own puppet to denigrate your own proposal. Drama for the sake of drama? I don't care for it one tiny bit.

Kenway Island wrote:You side with Clavin and have already harassed me with telegrams so... I'm not shocked

Given that you all know each other in the real world, to the point of using the same shared computers or phones, I'm not shocked that you're not shocked. In fact, this entire bit of nonsense seems to be nothing more than advertising for your small region. The fact that you've got another regionmate lined up to submit yet another variant gives weight to that supposition.

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Postby Mens Alveo » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:18 am

Just look at the last condemnation proposal. This doesn't even compare.

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Postby BlackLight Covenant » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:36 am

That mod thing, though. Didn't we have something similar going on a while ago, with a whole puppet show to disguise a poorly-written self-condemn/masked ad?

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