[PASSED] Commend Severisen

[Arlo]

Generally prefer condemnations for raiders, but this is fine and I'm voting for.

[Slackertown]

OOC: How is a proposal that references NationStates even legal?

[Xoriet]

Want to reiterate that the point isn’t to give a raider a badge. Also, there are many cases of giving a former raider or even a current raider a badge. The mentions of the invader regions are because he did always work for the betterment of his communities. When he went defender, he became an excellent addition to that group and defended against raids by his former regions. Region-building and supporting to me is definitely a Commendable thing, even if the region may not be what NS considers the ideologically good kind of region (raider in this case).

[Cormactopia Prime]

OOC: How is a proposal that references NationStates even legal?

It's almost like there are rulings on this sort of thing, based on past precedent, sometimes more than one.

[Slackertown]

OOC: How is a proposal that references NationStates even legal?

It's almost like there are rulings on this sort of thing, based on past precedent, sometimes more than one.

OOC: Ah acceptable double standard, got it.

Opposed.

[Xoriet]

It's almost like there are rulings on this sort of thing, based on past precedent, sometimes more than one.

OOC: Ah acceptable double standard, got it.

Opposed.

Double standard? How so?

If you mean mentioning NS, I just know that it's been done before so I went with it. If you mean raiders or former raiders getting Commendations:

Former People Who Raided As Raiders:
Commend Eluvatar

Former Raiders:
Commend 1 Infinite Loop
Commend Todd McCloud
Commend Xoriet

Current Raiders:
Commend Evil Wolf

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

OOC: How is a proposal that references NationStates even legal?

Because rules - something any budding SC author should read. Including the ones about spelling.

[United Massachusetts]

I am proudly in favour of this.

[Fauxia]

Emphasizing that one of Severisen’s greatest achievements was their tenure in Osiris over a period of over four years as Detective Figs, serving most particularly as a member of Osiris’ Security Council after the formation of the first Osiris Fraternal Order before taking the helm in 2014 as Delegate and Pharaoh in a time of need in Osiris.

Acknowledging that Koth enabled Osiris to remain raider aligned and continue their ruthless invasions of innocent regions while serving as Pharaoh of Osiris twice, once under the nation of Detective Figs and again under Saq,

Did the nation change hands?

[Armaros]

Emphasizing that one of Severisen’s greatest achievements was their tenure in Osiris over a period of over four years as Detective Figs, serving most particularly as a member of Osiris’ Security Council after the formation of the first Osiris Fraternal Order before taking the helm in 2014 as Delegate and Pharaoh in a time of need in Osiris.

Acknowledging that Koth enabled Osiris to remain raider aligned and continue their ruthless invasions of innocent regions while serving as Pharaoh of Osiris twice, once under the nation of Detective Figs and again under Saq,

Did the nation change hands?

3 pharaohs used Detective Figs, as far as I'm aware. So, yes.

[Fauxia]

Did the nation change hands?

3 pharaohs used Detective Figs, as far as I'm aware. So, yes.

That’s a very strange thing to do.

I mean, I guess they wanted to preserve influence but it’s a weird thing to do.

[Borovan entered the region as he]

Communique from the Foreign Affairs

To whom it concern
Miss Kath Beralis,/SC

We've received the resolution authored from Miss Kath Beralis from the country Xoriet and shall issue the following vote from our nation. The commendation of Seversin has been delivered in text from our WA ambassador expert thing, but half of the papers were ripped through shreds due to mishandling by an accident. However we know that theres the digital copy in the submiss thru email but issue our opinion. We believe that from reading this, the contributions here upon forward seems noteworthy and sufficient although we have few qualms on the colonizing and invasion of foreign lands. We do not have issues with the nominee bad political freedoms as long as the government makes full good faith in their governing. We vote For. And such.

From,
Foreign Affairs minister,
Pawlen Kimmo

[Lost Staria]

I voted for but now I am confused because people are saying he is a raider, which is bad (right?).

[Armaros]

I voted for but now I am confused because people are saying he is a raider, which is bad (right?).

He is a former raider, but ultimately his good deeds way up to that.

[Xoriet]

I voted for but now I am confused because people are saying he is a raider, which is bad (right?).

Even raiders have done great things for regions. Sev is a former raider now, and the regions he contributed to are more than raider regions. He also contributed to defending and to safeguarding regional security. As a native of Catholic, he protected it from raiders to his best ability. While I'd get an argument based on not Commending a current raider, a former raider is not quite the same. Also, as Armaros said, his work for his regions outweighs his time as a raider.

[RiderSyl]

Support!

[Pengencondic]

I don't have much to say on this topic. I believe that is a heavy topic to some people, and a light topic to other people.
I won't offer much support due the fact that my people vote against it.

[Borovan entered the region as he]

Commend Severisen was passed 11,236 votes to 3,701.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Congratulations to Severisen and to Xoriet.

[Blood Wine]

Congratulations

Pretty obvious it passed, there were no real counterarguments to this, and plenty of arguments in favor

[Armaros]

Congratulations to Severisen and Xoriet.