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[SUBMITTED] Commend Antifa

Postby Socalist Russia » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:28 am

Recognizing the amazing work of Antifa through the years and the progress they have made in fighting against hate and intolerance.

Stating that Antifa has seen massive success against hateful regions and continue to strike great blows against hate and oppression and those who spread it.

Naming some of Antifa's accomplishments in stopping regions that spread hate and fascism, include, but are not limited to: Nazi Europe, Fatherland, Fascist Militia, KKK, Nationalist Union, Zhe Wehrmacht, Nazi, New Fascist Union of Nations, Nazi Homeland, and countless more.

Acknowledges the tireless work undertaken by Antifa to make the world a more tolerant, inclusive, and an all-round safer place.

Noting that Antifa works closely with the commended region, the MT Army.

Hereby Commends Antifa for its remarkable actions and heroic deeds in the interest of peace.
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Postby The East India Trade Federation » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:31 am

Against. Antifa has raided regions close to my own that have never shown a shred of Fascism. They are a vicious region that attacks all with dissenting opinions.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:06 am

Wonderful, another crap attempt at an SC resolution.

So Nazi Europe, Fatherland etc. are all accomplishments of Antifa? Really?

Please try and do some research and not just spew up banalities.
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Postby The Tri State Area and Maine » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:46 pm

That's gonna have to be a no from me.

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Postby BlackLight Covenant » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:01 pm

"What is it with the sudden influx of Antifa-related proposals as of late, anyway? Firstly, a number of semi-/low-effort attempts at condemning the place, the vast majority of which got shot down for rule violations and the remaining ones never having made it through the approval stage, and now this commendation that, in its current state, really isn't that much better than those condemnation proposals that never got through the approval stage I'm afraid.

If you wish to continue this, ambassador, I would strongly suggest doing research on what Antifa has and hasn't done over the period of time it has existed. Alternatively, you could always try submitting this the way it is, but I would strongly recommend against that, as I suspect it will get shot down pretty much right off the bat, not to mention that doing this second, ill-advised option I presented to you would just make it seem as if the whole "condemn/commend Antifa" chain is a disguised political mud fight within the halls of the Security Council.

On a side note, however, you did actually put out a draft for the Security Council first instead of submitting it right off the bat, something I can't say about every single nation that attempted to condemn Antifa in the last...roughly two to three weeks, so I will give you bonus points for this."

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Postby Grug Island » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:18 pm

Grug like the sentiment

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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 am

The East India Trade Federation wrote:Against. Antifa has raided regions close to my own that have never shown a shred of Fascism. They are a vicious region that attacks all with dissenting opinions.

These regions are......?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:35 am

Alliance of the axis powers was a good example of one they raided years ago, no idea if they're still in control of it though. Despite the name it was an rp region (no fascist tags, no embassies with fascist regions etc), founded by left-leaning people.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:29 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Alliance of the axis powers was a good example of one they raided years ago, no idea if they're still in control of it though. Despite the name it was an rp region (no fascist tags, no embassies with fascist regions etc), founded by left-leaning people.

I'd like a link
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Postby American Pere Housh » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:37 am

Grug Island wrote:Grug like the sentiment

Well Grugs an idiot for supporting this. Opposed
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Postby Ransium » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:40 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Grug Island wrote:Grug like the sentiment

Well Grugs an idiot for supporting this. Opposed


Please don’t call other players idiots, even if they are cavemen, it is flaming. Unofficial warning for flaming.

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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:57 am

Grug Island wrote:Grug like the sentiment


Shame that's about all there is to it really.
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Postby Hijlistan Arg » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:45 pm

"We at Hijlistan Arg appreciate this sentiment. We must encourage and support those who fight against fascism to ensure it never receives any platform."

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Postby Vippertooth33 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:25 am

Socalist Russia wrote:Recognizing the amazing work of Antifa through the years and the progress they have made in fighting against hate and intolerance.

Stating that Antifa has seen massive success against hateful regions and continue to strike great blows against hate and oppression and those who spread it.

Naming some of Antifa's accomplishments in stopping regions that spread hate and fascism, include, but are not limited to: Nazi Europe, Fatherland, Fascist Militia, KKK, Nationalist Union, Zhe Wehrmacht, Nazi, New Fascist Union of Nations, Nazi Homeland, and countless more.

Acknowledges the tireless work undertaken by Antifa to make the world a more tolerant, inclusive, and an all-round safer place.

Noting that Antifa works closely with the commended region, the MT Army.

Hereby Commends Antifa for its remarkable actions and heroic deeds in the interest of peace.


Well now, the sentiment for this is lovely, thank you.

In truth I think it would prove a challenge to get Antifa commended as regions that raid rarely achieve this.

Regardless, I would argue that the most controversial issue with NationStates Antifa, is the groups name itself.

Real life Antifa does not make a good name for itself with some of its extremist actions.

NationStates Antifa has no connection to Real Life Antifa, it just uses a logical name as a united front to raid Nazi/Fascist regions and liberate regions they invade.

I would suggest pointing out this detail at the start of the commendation.

Secondly, i think many people see NationStates Antifa as a Communist group, yet fail to see the diversity in our membership.

The reality is, NationStates Antifa has no unifying political ideology, it is and will continue to be made up of many regions with differing views on economics and politics yet wholesomely united in its mission.

You can find additional information here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1173119

Beyond this, do some research on high profile Nazi/Fascist regions that have been successfully shut down by Antifa e.g. The Greater German Reich and those that have been liberated from Nazi/Fascist raids e.g. Anne Frank.

Regards.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:37 am

Socalist Russia wrote:Recognizing the amazing work of Antifa through the years and the progress they have made in fighting against hate and intolerance.

Stating that Antifa has seen massive success against hateful regions and continue to strike great blows against hate and oppression and those who spread it.

Naming some of Antifa's accomplishments in stopping regions that spread hate and fascism, include, but are not limited to: Nazi Europe, Fatherland, Fascist Militia, KKK, Nationalist Union, Zhe Wehrmacht, Nazi, New Fascist Union of Nations, Nazi Homeland, and countless more.

Acknowledges the tireless work undertaken by Antifa to make the world a more tolerant, inclusive, and an all-round safer place.

Noting that Antifa works closely with the commended region, the MT Army.

Hereby Commends Antifa for its remarkable actions and heroic deeds in the interest of peace.

A lot of the regions listed weren't done under Antifa banner (e.g. Nazi isn't under anyone) But it is quite well written for a first attempt, just a bit of factual inaccuracies.
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Socalist Russia wrote:Recognizing the amazing work of Antifa through the years and the progress they have made in fighting against hate and intolerance.

Stating that Antifa has seen massive success against hateful regions and continue to strike great blows against hate and oppression and those who spread it.

Naming some of Antifa's accomplishments in stopping regions that spread hate and fascism, include, but are not limited to: Nazi Europe, Fatherland, Fascist Militia, KKK, Nationalist Union, Zhe Wehrmacht, Nazi, New Fascist Union of Nations, Nazi Homeland, and countless more.

Acknowledges the tireless work undertaken by Antifa to make the world a more tolerant, inclusive, and an all-round safer place.

Noting that Antifa works closely with the commended region, the MT Army.

Hereby Commends Antifa for its remarkable actions and heroic deeds in the interest of peace.


Well now, the sentiment for this is lovely, thank you.

In truth I think it would prove a challenge to get Antifa commended as regions that raid rarely achieve this.

Regardless, I would argue that the most controversial issue with NationStates Antifa, is the groups name itself.

Real life Antifa does not make a good name for itself with some of its extremist actions.

NationStates Antifa has no connection to Real Life Antifa, it just uses a logical name as a united front to raid Nazi/Fascist regions and liberate regions they invade.

I would suggest pointing out this detail at the start of the commendation.

Secondly, i think many people see NationStates Antifa as a Communist group, yet fail to see the diversity in our membership.

The reality is, NationStates Antifa has no unifying political ideology, it is and will continue to be made up of many regions with differing views on economics and politics yet wholesomely united in its mission.

You can find additional information here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1173119

Beyond this, do some research on high profile Nazi/Fascist regions that have been successfully shut down by Antifa e.g. The Greater German Reich and those that have been liberated from Nazi/Fascist raids e.g. Anne Frank.

Regards.

No RL references unfortunately :(
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:28 am

Vippertooth33 wrote:
Socalist Russia wrote:Recognizing the amazing work of Antifa through the years and the progress they have made in fighting against hate and intolerance.

Stating that Antifa has seen massive success against hateful regions and continue to strike great blows against hate and oppression and those who spread it.

Naming some of Antifa's accomplishments in stopping regions that spread hate and fascism, include, but are not limited to: Nazi Europe, Fatherland, Fascist Militia, KKK, Nationalist Union, Zhe Wehrmacht, Nazi, New Fascist Union of Nations, Nazi Homeland, and countless more.

Acknowledges the tireless work undertaken by Antifa to make the world a more tolerant, inclusive, and an all-round safer place.

Noting that Antifa works closely with the commended region, the MT Army.

Hereby Commends Antifa for its remarkable actions and heroic deeds in the interest of peace.


Well now, the sentiment for this is lovely, thank you.

In truth I think it would prove a challenge to get Antifa commended as regions that raid rarely achieve this.

Regardless, I would argue that the most controversial issue with NationStates Antifa, is the groups name itself.

Real life Antifa does not make a good name for itself with some of its extremist actions.

NationStates Antifa has no connection to Real Life Antifa, it just uses a logical name as a united front to raid Nazi/Fascist regions and liberate regions they invade.

I would suggest pointing out this detail at the start of the commendation.

Secondly, i think many people see NationStates Antifa as a Communist group, yet fail to see the diversity in our membership.

The reality is, NationStates Antifa has no unifying political ideology, it is and will continue to be made up of many regions with differing views on economics and politics yet wholesomely united in its mission.

You can find additional information here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1173119

Beyond this, do some research on high profile Nazi/Fascist regions that have been successfully shut down by Antifa e.g. The Greater German Reich and those that have been liberated from Nazi/Fascist raids e.g. Anne Frank.

Regards.

I think the main reason that this should fail is because self-serving political raiding is bad.

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Postby Seraxinbourgh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:34 am

I'm going to be honest with my thoughts here, if people who are patriotic are excommunicated from certain other regions due to their political stance so they form their own region and don't harm anyone only to have their region raided by NS Antifa - how are the NS Antifa the good guys? This website is supposed to be for people of all ideologies and not just those approved by the globalists.

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Postby The Gilded Star » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:00 pm

Seraxinbourgh wrote:I'm going to be honest with my thoughts here, if people who are patriotic are excommunicated from certain other regions due to their political stance so they form their own region and don't harm anyone only to have their region raided by NS Antifa - how are the NS Antifa the good guys? This website is supposed to be for people of all ideologies and not just those approved by the globalists.


Ideologies whose core tenants are adversity, conflict, and opposition don't tend to stay self-contained forever.

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:04 pm

Antifa is no better than the groups they fight, they are full of anarchists, communists, and advocates against freedom of speech and other liberties
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:21 am

Guys guys. I really want to know how Antifa is oppressing you or attacked you. I'm extremely interested.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:55 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Guys guys. I really want to know how Antifa is oppressing you or attacked you. I'm extremely interested.

You might want to consider reading at least the title before commenting.
Still it's nice to have evident of the level of care Antifas supporters put into examining claims before rushing to it's defence.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:59 am

Why are people still arguing about this? It doesn’t look likely that the “author” is going to do anything with this. Move on folks, nothing to see here.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:02 am

Aclion wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Guys guys. I really want to know how Antifa is oppressing you or attacked you. I'm extremely interested.

You might want to consider reading at least the title before commenting.
Still it's nice to have evident of the level of care Antifas supporters put into examining claims before rushing to it's defence.

Not talking about the author, but all the people in the thread going "EW ANTIFA AGAINST"
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Postby The Guardians of the Rhine » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:27 pm

Fully against; and don't get me started on the real ProAntifa.
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