[DRAFT] Condemn Lily

[Northern Jackaia]

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Lily

Proposed by: Northern Jackaia

AWARE that Lily is a large, non-political military
APPALLED that Lily has raided over 250 peaceful, defenseless regions ( including The Rouge Confederacy of Independance and Alliance Against Lily )for the sole purpose of advertising their cause
OUTRAGED that Lily's actions have inconvenienced hundreds of nations
The World Assembly hereby
CONDEMNS Lily

[Azlaake]

With MAJOR Changes

Just doesn't seem professional

[Northern Jackaia]

With MAJOR Changes

Just doesn't seem professional

That's fair.
Any specific suggestions?

[Azlaake]

With MAJOR Changes

Just doesn't seem professional

That's fair.
Any specific suggestions?

More in depth on what they have done
Many regions do this so we need to say what makes Lily so bad!!!

[Northern Jackaia]

That's fair.
Any specific suggestions?

More in depth on what they have done
Many regions do this so we need to say what makes Lily so bad!!!

got it.

[New Udonia]

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Lily

APPALLED that Lily has raided over 250 peaceful, defenseless regions including... Alliance Against Lily

Is this a joke. Even I would most likely raid an "Alliance against Me".

[Azlaake]

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Lily

APPALLED that Lily has raided over 250 peaceful, defenseless regions including... Alliance Against Lily

Is this a joke. Even I would most likely raid an "Alliance against Me".

Yeah, remove the alliance against Lily part
But include more regions thay have raided

[Drop Your Pants]

Your numbers are a bit on the small side, at least do your homework on Lily. Even looking at their hall of fame dispatch, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=938139 , would be a start, they're well past 250

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

The best one can say about this proposal is that it’s legal. Apart from that, no real detail, nothing that makes Lily stand out from other raider organisations. Pretty much a total lack of research.

Poor effort, must do better.

[Northern Jackaia]

The best one can say about this proposal is that it’s legal. Apart from that, no real detail, nothing that makes Lily stand out from other raider organisations. Pretty much a total lack of research.

Poor effort, must do better.

that's fair.
I put maybe 10 minutes into it and did almost no research

Get ready for MAJOR REVISIONS!

[LiberNovusAmericae]

To be honest, they might view a condemnation as a reward. Many raider organizations such as The Black Hawks take that view.

[Armaros]

I suggest you take a look at other condemnations that already passed, such as those of The Black Hawks or Lone Wolves United.

Regardless, I don't think Lily deserves a condemnation, as they've never done anything "evil" other then tagging, which is fairly harmless. While their tagging numbers are impressive, tagging is usually done to small, inactive regions.

[BlackLight Covenant]

I suggest you take a look at other condemnations that already passed, such as those of The Black Hawks or Lone Wolves United.

Regardless, I don't think Lily deserves a condemnation, as they've never done anything "evil" other then tagging, which is fairly harmless. While their tagging numbers are impressive, tagging is usually done to small, inactive regions.

I've never really understood what's so bad about the mass raiding of said small, inactive regions, to be quite honest. It's not like there'd be a lot of change for the few residents those regions would have, as there wouldn't be much going on in the first place. I suppose one could say it's an issue because it's a free advertising space for whoever raided the place, but it's not as if those inactive regions would be looked at by a lot of people, so even that argument kinda dies off for the vast majority of cases.

[Hatzisland]

Yes, but with some major changes.

[Zizou]

The best one can say about this proposal is that it’s legal. Apart from that, no real detail, nothing that makes Lily stand out from other raider organisations. Pretty much a total lack of research.

Poor effort, must do better.

that's fair.
I put maybe 10 minutes into it and did almost no research

Get ready for MAJOR REVISIONS!

Perhaps you could add in that one time where they got 407 regions in one update.

[Sweeze]

that's fair.
I put maybe 10 minutes into it and did almost no research

Get ready for MAJOR REVISIONS!

Perhaps you could add in that one time where they got 407 regions in one update.

or how evil that sweeze person is :>

[Kurnugia]

For!

These awful people shall fear our impotent rage!

[Fahran]

As a Triumvir on the Louloúdia and the Stélechos of Foreign Affairs for Lily, I have a number of objections to this proposal, specifically regarding its quality and its characterization of Lily as a region. Indeed, I feel a commendation would be infinitely more appropriate given the success of our beautification projects, our nurturing support for small regional communities, the involvement of our members in a plethora of regions - often in positions of leadership or mentoring roles, and our contributions to the defender community, principally through our opposition to The Black Hawks and our past coordination with The Order of the Grey Wardens. We also staged a successful raid on The Grey Wolves GWS recently that dismantled a raider organization that might have brutalized dozens of regions this year. You'll observe the pretty WFE and the humility and good humor of those involved in the operation. Some will no doubt consider this a heinous act.

AWARE that Lily is a large, non-political military

This is a painfully milquetoast description of Lily as a region and ignores the broader inter-regional character of its military's membership and structure.

APPALLED that Lily has raided over 250 peaceful, defenseless regions ( including The Rouge Confederacy of Independance and Alliance Against Lily )for the sole purpose of advertising their cause

Lily has raided several thousand regions at least. However, we have also engaged in defense, detag, and liberation operations in the past and any resolution would be remiss in neglecting to mention these operations as an extenuating factor. Lily is not, after all, a raider organization, but rather an independent military that engages in operations across the Gameplay spectrum.

OUTRAGED that Lily's actions have inconvenienced hundreds of nations

Tens of thousands probably.

The World Assembly hereby
CONDEMNS Lily

While I can certainly understand the desire of many nations and regions to condemn Lily, I must deplore the lack of research, the inaccuracies, and the bare-bones nature of this proposal before even mentioning the counter-points brought up by other posters here. If you would like assistance in your research, you're more than welcome to survey our thread in Gameplay - which lists a good many of our operations and targets. I'm more than willing to answer questions as well.

I've never really understood what's so bad about the mass raiding of said small, inactive regions, to be quite honest. It's not like there'd be a lot of change for the few residents those regions would have, as there wouldn't be much going on in the first place. I suppose one could say it's an issue because it's a free advertising space for whoever raided the place, but it's not as if those inactive regions would be looked at by a lot of people, so even that argument kinda dies off for the vast majority of cases.

Lily has raided active regions that lacked a firm grasp of how the WA and endorsements work. I believe we've taken several regions with five or six WA members who hadn't bothered to endorse a delegate. A lot of the efforts to raid or condemn us were inspired by these operations, though most of the regions we raid are indeed inactive or semi-active. Most of our trophies were regions that actively antagonized us or that were captured by constituent regions or members independently. I believe we have a couple dozen trophy regions, but I can't state that with the utmost confidence.

[Isvataan]

For

(Side note: though do make it look more professional and formatted