[DRAFT] Repeal Liberate KAISSERREICH

[Sirian]

Deputy WA Ambassador, Brenda Silvera and WA Ambassador Hermione Granger of Sirian came in and drafted this.

REMEMBERING that KAISSEREICH used Nazi Propaganda and swastikas, and expressed the use of hate speech in their mannerisms.

NOTING that they are trying to change and are shifting to a German Empire style government, and the members, particularly the founder regrets the fascist stance they once held.

SEEKING to rectify this with the help of other regions and shift towards peaceful conduct.

BELIEVING that their true nature now is not Fascist or Nazi in any way, shape, or form.

HEREBY repeals this resolution.

[Lord Dominator]

I don't think this will get all that much traction, or succeed.

[Armaros]

Again? -_-

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I don't think this will get all that much traction, or succeed.

True. And it’s also illegal in its present form.

[Honeydewistania]

lol no.

[Kurnugia]

"KAISSERREICH"

I see what you did there

[Ransium]

Rule 3 The active clause needs to be explicit about what “this resolution is”

R4a- So many RL references

[Blood Wine]

No

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[Cedoria]

No.

[SeattleNinja008]

No

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No.

Great debate.... now do you care to explain?

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

Honestly, I spent some time there and it's really not as bad as it seems. Sure there are some bad eggs but which region doesn't have them? There are some really good people there. I would prefer to remain neutral on this but this "Nazi" thing has been blown far out of proportion. The OP should do more research and actually provide us some evidence of this "Nazi" thing.

[Armaros]

No

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No.

Great debate.... now do you care to explain?

What? We don't need to explain anything, you can simply read the actual liberation. It's the author here that needs to explain their reasons for repealing it.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=437873&hilit=Liberate+Kaiserreich there you go. Have fun reading through 54 pages of fascists denying they're fascists, fascists saying it was all a joke, and fascists saying they have the right to be fascists. Once you get to page 7 there should be some screenshots.

For the record, even Kaiserreich themselves admitted the "jokes" were fucking horrifying and used it to create a half-assed apology: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=452656&hilit=Apology

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

Great debate.... now do you care to explain?

What? We don't need to explain anything, you can simply read the actual liberation. It's the author here that needs to explain their reasons for repealing it.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=437873&hilit=Liberate+Kaiserreich there you go. Have fun reading through 54 pages of fascists denying they're fascists, fascists saying it was all a joke, and fascists saying they have the right to be fascists. Once you get to page 7 there should be some screenshots.

For the record, even Kaiserreich themselves admitted the "jokes" were fucking horrifying and used it to create a half-assed apology: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=452656&hilit=Apology

I change my mind. They have changed so much since the last time I was there.

[Kurnugia]

What? We don't need to explain anything, you can simply read the actual liberation. It's the author here that needs to explain their reasons for repealing it.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=437873&hilit=Liberate+Kaiserreich there you go. Have fun reading through 54 pages of fascists denying they're fascists, fascists saying it was all a joke, and fascists saying they have the right to be fascists. Once you get to page 7 there should be some screenshots.

For the record, even Kaiserreich themselves admitted the "jokes" were fucking horrifying and used it to create a half-assed apology: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=452656&hilit=Apology

I change my mind. They have changed so much since the last time I was there.

Not really. Kike is something KREICH is still willing to accept.

[SeattleNinja008]

Great debate.... now do you care to explain?

What? We don't need to explain anything, you can simply read the actual liberation. It's the author here that needs to explain their reasons for repealing it.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=437873&hilit=Liberate+Kaiserreich there you go. Have fun reading through 54 pages of fascists denying they're fascists, fascists saying it was all a joke, and fascists saying they have the right to be fascists. Once you get to page 7 there should be some screenshots.

For the record, even Kaiserreich themselves admitted the "jokes" were fucking horrifying and used it to create a half-assed apology: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=452656&hilit=Apology

Do we continue to condemn Germany cause at one point they were ruled by Hitler and the Nazis?

[The Gilded Star]

Do we continue to condemn Germany cause at one point they were ruled by Hitler and the Nazis?

It took Germany many years to redeem its reputation after both World Wars. And there was, and still is, no larger critic of Germany's past than Germany itself.

[SeattleNinja008]

Do we continue to condemn Germany cause at one point they were ruled by Hitler and the Nazis?

It took Germany many years to redeem its reputation after both World Wars. And there was, and still is, no larger critic of Germany's past than Germany itself.

Okay, so let me ask another question;
Why is the NS community so committed to exiling a region that has made major reforms, such as demilitarization, and has condemned and banned fascism from the RMB and offsite communications, a ban that is actively enforced? Why does the NS community refuse to acknowledge these reforms and changes to regional culture and stonewall any attempts made for KR to renter the wider NS community as a German themed monarchist region? Why is there no way for a region to be repatriated into the wider community?

[Malphe]

It took Germany many years to redeem its reputation after both World Wars. And there was, and still is, no larger critic of Germany's past than Germany itself.

Okay, so let me ask another question;
Why is the NS community so committed to exiling a region that has made major reforms, such as demilitarization, and has condemned and banned fascism from the RMB and offsite communications, a ban that is actively enforced? Why does the NS community refuse to acknowledge these reforms and changes to regional culture and stonewall any attempts made for KR to renter the wider NS community as a German themed monarchist region? Why is there no way for a region to be repatriated into the wider community?

I've seen no evidence of substantial change in the region and their MoFA is apparently as diplomatic as an armed grenade. Sure, KREICH could improve and maybe it's improving right now, that would be nice, I'm just not counting on it.

[Kurnugia]

It took Germany many years to redeem its reputation after both World Wars. And there was, and still is, no larger critic of Germany's past than Germany itself.

Okay, so let me ask another question;
Why is the NS community so committed to exiling a region that has made major reforms, such as demilitarization, and has condemned and banned fascism from the RMB and offsite communications, a ban that is actively enforced? Why does the NS community refuse to acknowledge these reforms and changes to regional culture and stonewall any attempts made for KR to renter the wider NS community as a German themed monarchist region? Why is there no way for a region to be repatriated into the wider community?

Demilitarization? More like too much of a noob to stand a chance in GP ^-^

The RMB is clean sure. But their discord still holds disgusting stuff. From ableism to xenophobia you have the whole mess. There is a good damn reason why they keep it out of sight of the broader NSGP community. Furthermore, the same guy is still in charge who let the whole mess be tolerated and some of my sources indicated that he sought cooperation with Nazi Europe out a thirst of power. Why should we believe them if they have someone in charge that puts power over morals? Where do we have the guarantee that KREICH won't rejoin the far right if they are getting stronger?

Change the government and do good enough if you truly want to "repatriated".

[Jocospor]

Does Kaiserreich even want its liberation taken away?

[Honeydewistania]

Does Kaiserreich even want its liberation taken away?

Gravedigging 101.


Likely yes

[Jocospor]

Does Kaiserreich even want its liberation taken away?

Gravedigging 101.


Likely yes

You never know. We love ours, it's a beautiful badge.

[Lord Dominator]

Gravedigging 101.


Likely yes

You never know. We love ours, it's a beautiful badge.

The Commend badge is actually the beautiful one, the other two look like crap and drunken painting.

[Indo States]

What Else Sirian.

I Am Trying to Research some Resources to Repeal this to Comply some Rules of SC Proposals and Not Violating Them. I Obviously Waiting for Some Telegrams that i Could Configure to Repeal This.

[Jocospor]

You never know. We love ours, it's a beautiful badge.

The Commend badge is actually the beautiful one, the other two look like crap and drunken painting.

*the Office of the Viceroy gasps* The poor artist!