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[DRAFT] Commend Cormactopia Prime

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:16 pm
by Tim-Opolis
The Security Council,

Establishing that Cormactopia Prime has also occupied the notable puppet states of Cormac A Stark, Cormac Stark, Cormactopia II, Ynys Prydain, Great Brigantia, and The Miniluv Messenger,

Lauding the undying commitment of Cormactopia Prime to the region Osiris, both under its Kemetic Republic and Fraternal Order regimes, where they have made countless contributions to the region's prosperity including:

  • Serving as Pharaoh (World Assembly Delegate) of the region on numerous occasions, resulting in them being tied for the second-longest cumulatively serving World Assembly Delegate in Osiris history,

  • As Pharaoh of the Kemetic Republic of Osiris, being instrumental in organizing and leading the resistance efforts against the 2013 Coup and Occupation of Osiris by Gatesville Inc and The Dourian Embassy,

  • Having the foresight and commitment to be involved in two major regime transitions of Osiris:

    • The cessation of the Kemetic Republic of Osiris, and subsequent establishment of the Osiris Fraternal Order, which tore down a corrupt and bloated system, run by the individuals collectively known as The Empire, in preference for a meritocratic system built on strong community principles and sensible sinker government,

    • The removal of subversive element The Almighty Jesus Whale from Osiris, who planned to coup the region once ascending to the delegacy, which resulted in the abolishing of the Osiris Fraternal Order and establishment of the regime colloquially known as the Osiris Fraternal Order 2.0. Cormactopia Prime was tirelessly involved in the subsequent re-building efforts within the region, being instrumental to the drafting and ratification of Osiris' legal code.

  • Serving as a loyal member of Osiris for over six years, holding numerous other significant roles within the community including [more stuff going here, just need more research]

Noting Cormactopia Prime's contributions to the World Assembly, which have included the following involvements on passed Security Council and General Assembly legislation:


Applauding Cormactopia Prime's commitment to advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and movements, including the formation and promotion of the Nationstates #LoveIsLove Campaign, which has earned them the Order of Stonewall from the region Gay,

[There's Going To Be An R/D Clause Here, But I'm Working On Its Wording Still]

Praising the journalistic efforts of Cormactopia Prime via their puppet state The Miniluv Messenger, whose award-winning publication of the same name has been responsible for significant news releases such as:

  • Operation Brave Toaster: Exposed, which revealed and foiled plans by senior leadership of The East Pacific to infiltrate and influence their fellow feeder region The South Pacific,

  • Rogue's Gallery: Obvious Foreign Pilers Replace Native Endorsements, which began a multi-release series on the New Pacific Order's (The Pacific) coup and subsequent occupation of the region Lazarus,

  • Time of the Season: Alleged Coup Plot in Osiris, which revealed an insidious plot by at-time Osiris Vice-Delegate Ainocra to subvert and coup the region. The plot included prominent nations including The Dourian Embassy and Durkadurkiranistan III, both known for involvement in a previous coup of Osiris.
Recognizing that Cormactopia Prime is widely recognized by their peers as one of the world's most influential nations, having been thrice awarded (2015, 2017, 2018) the recognition of being the most influential nation within regional and interregional politics,

Acknowledging that Cormactopia Prime is recognized as a steadfast promoter of sovereignty for Feeder and Sinker regions, as seen in their aforementioned exposes of coup plots via The Miniluv Messenger, as well as their valiant efforts to fight regional coups in The South Pacific, Lazarus, The West Pacific, and Osiris,

Concluding that while Cormactopia Prime is a nation which has skirted the lines between villainy and heroism, their overall contribution to the world is one that would certainly be defined as Commendable,

Hereby Commends Cormactopia Prime.


Right-o

So this is still a Draft 1, as I hope is obvious. There's a lot that Cormac's done, and I'm not keen on listing every single thing, so I've been trying to highlight that which is most commendable. I think he's done more than enough to warrant it, so there's no reason to put filler into it when one can instead note specific recognition. At the moment I'm avoiding listing regions such as Spiritus and The South Pacific, where he unquestionably made positive contributions but circumstances meant his time there ended rather badly, but will consider putting those in should it be clear that they serve benefit to the proposal in being mentioned.

Yeah, tear it up with critiques thanks.

I'd appreciate some more detailing about his Osiris stuff, and will probably be reaching out to Osiris people to get more specific details on that, since I'm not as able to access it due to my PNG status there.

I'm still collecting a lot of information, and this is far from the finished copy of the draft, but I've found that I'm more likely to keep something going if I post it than if I just leave it in a google doc (no comment on repeal condemn vandoosa >.> <.<)

Cormac wrote 3 Osi constitutions State Code of Osiris (OFO 1.0), Scroll of Ma'at (OFO 2.0), Scroll of Horus (OFO 2.0 current)
Cormac was also a Sepatarch (Senator) under the KRO and contributed to the consty changes that weakened the Security Body (The Council of Ma'at) that the Empire was using to chokehold the region)
cormac did some r/d shit including UDL Lt
Cormac founded Asgard and Camelot


Notes:

- I'm pretty significantly over the character limit, so I'll be doing a lot of cutting down on BBCode and improving my brevity in places. I save 900 characters by killing WA hyperlinks, so those are almost certainly going, as is some of the way I've organized that clause.
- Miniluv Messenger might get cut down to be a less descriptive section, for similar character saving purposes, but I'm trying to find a way to still be descriptive as hell with it

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:31 pm
by La Navasse
Opposed. Cormac doesn't deserve a Commend, especially with his recent war-mongering actions.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:32 pm
by Tim-Opolis
La Navasse wrote:Opposed. Cormac doesn't deserve a Commend, especially with his recent war-mongering actions.

Thank you, next

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:33 pm
by La Navasse
Tim-Opolis wrote:
La Navasse wrote:Opposed. Cormac doesn't deserve a Commend, especially with his recent war-mongering actions.

Thank you, next

Your dismissal of criticism certainly sets the tone for this draft.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:35 pm
by Lord Dominator
Your dismissal of Cormac's long history of good deeds in a number of GCRs and other regions is enlightening.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:37 pm
by La Navasse
Lord Dominator wrote:Your dismissal of Cormac's long history of good deeds in a number of GCRs and other regions is enlightening.

Dismissal is relevant when more recent activities support said dismissal.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:40 pm
by Lord Dominator
La Navasse wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Your dismissal of Cormac's long history of good deeds in a number of GCRs and other regions is enlightening.

Dismissal is relevant when more recent activities support said dismissal.

Uh huh

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:47 pm
by La Navasse
Lord Dominator wrote:
La Navasse wrote:Dismissal is relevant when more recent activities support said dismissal.

Uh huh

Tim-Opolis wrote:
La Navasse wrote:Opposed. Cormac doesn't deserve a Commend, especially with his recent war-mongering actions.

Thank you, next

If you're both never going to address my point, perhaps you should've prepared your answers beforehand. I've heard it helps immensely. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:48 pm
by United Massachusetts
Applauding Cormactopia Prime's commitment to advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and movements, including the formation and promotion of the Nationstates #LoveIsLove Campaign, which have earned them the Order of Stonewall from the region Gay,


Is this legal?

Recognizing that Cormactopia Prime is widely recognized by their peers as one of the world's most influential nations, having been thrice awarded (2015, 2017, 2018) the recognition of being the most influential nation within regional and interregional politics,


I'm not certain that forum links in the resolution are legal.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:50 pm
by Tim-Opolis
United Massachusetts wrote:
Applauding Cormactopia Prime's commitment to advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and movements, including the formation and promotion of the Nationstates #LoveIsLove Campaign, which have earned them the Order of Stonewall from the region Gay,


Is this legal?

I don't see why it wouldn't be. Maybe the specific mention of Nationstates would be illegal, but I can easily shave that off.

Recognizing that Cormactopia Prime is widely recognized by their peers as one of the world's most influential nations, having been thrice awarded (2015, 2017, 2018) the recognition of being the most influential nation within regional and interregional politics,


I'm not certain that forum links in the resolution are legal.


Wasn't aware of that, will edit links out if true.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:51 pm
by Xoriet
Cormac has done a lot for the community. I don’t always agree with him, but his contributions are undeniable. He’s earned his recognition over the years.

Are we going for a double C&C? Cormac could probably pull it off. :p

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:53 pm
by Fecaw
Clicking on the link to Greater Biglantia leads to an unused nation name. Does Cormac have a similarly-named puppet?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:57 pm
by Tim-Opolis
Fecaw wrote:Clicking on the link to Greater Biglantia leads to an unused nation name. Does Cormac have a similarly-named puppet?

It was Great Brigantia, I dismembered the nation name. Edited accordingly.

To be clear for people - typos/minutia I'm simply editing the existing draft. significant changes will result in a draft 2 and a spoilered draft 1

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:59 pm
by Armaros
Full support.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:05 pm
by Tim-Opolis
La Navasse wrote:If you're both never going to address my point, perhaps you should've prepared your answers beforehand. I've heard it helps immensely. :lol:

Let me be very fucking clear, La Navasse.

I am happy to hear critiques of Cormac's aggression towards the NS New Pacific Order from actual members of the New Pacific Order, rather than carpetbaggers who think they're all that because they joined a different game's branch of the Order and are now piling in support of Kitsco in StAbby. For example, if Senators of the Order, or at least actual members of the NS branch, have constructive commentary to provide to this thread, that would be welcomed.

(Thanks for the commentary, Xoriet <3)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:07 pm
by Drop Your Pants
La Navasse wrote:Your dismissal of criticism certainly sets the tone for this draft.

It's Tim.

Is Greater Biglantia spelt correctly? Its been dead so long it can be founded again.
Serving as Pharaoh (World Assembly Delegate) of the region on numerous occasions, resulting in them being tied for the second-longest cumulatively serving World Assembly Delegate in Osiris history,

Maybe include how long that was. To people not paying attention to GCRs that could be 2 weeks.
run by the individuals collectively known as The Empire,

Individual nations instead? Doesn't read right to me.

Trim down the SC proposals a bit, to say 3. TP, Gay and TBH would get the most attention from NS these days.
Author of SC#144 Liberal Liberal Haven,

Your autocorrect kicked in.
Recognizing that Cormactopia Prime is widely recognized by their peers as one of the world's most influential nations

Certainly the loudest but that's just me.
Acknowledging that Cormactopia Prime is recognized as a steadfast promoter of sovereignty for Feeder and Sinker regions

Thats a bit too much, even for you Tim. Add a disclaimer about it not applying to TP and TSP (currently at least) :P

Edit: Oh and I support, much happier to see Cormac get a badge over all these randoms recently.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:10 pm
by Tim-Opolis
Thanks for the input DYP!

I think I caught (or was informed about) some of the typos already before you finished your post, but appreciate it nonetheless.

I'll definitely look to include length for the Osiris history, as well as maybe trimming down the WA section. I could always do something like listing the total, and then mentioning some of the more notable ones, which could certainly work.

Also, yeah fair play, probably a reach with that language regarding his promotion of sovereignty :P

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:10 pm
by La Navasse
Tim-Opolis wrote:
La Navasse wrote:If you're both never going to address my point, perhaps you should've prepared your answers beforehand. I've heard it helps immensely. :lol:

Let me be very fucking clear, La Navasse.

I am happy to hear critiques of Cormac's aggression towards the NS New Pacific Order from actual members of the New Pacific Order, rather than carpetbaggers who think they're all that because they joined a different game's branch of the Order and are now piling in support of Kitsco in StAbby. For example, if Senators of the Order, or at least actual members of the NS branch, have constructive commentary to provide to this thread, that would be welcomed.

(Thanks for the commentary, Xoriet <3)

It's funny that you attempt to bring up the NPO as an arguing point when I haven't even mentioned it. Says a lot about what's on your mind.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:19 pm
by Tim-Opolis
La Navasse wrote:It's funny that you attempt to bring up the NPO as an arguing point when I haven't even mentioned it. Says a lot about what's on your mind.

Here's the thing, you did bring it up. Cormac's "recent war-mongering actions" have been specifically targeting the New Pacific Order, following the Order's plans to subvert other game-created regions, their holding of St Abbaddon as a protectorate, and their choice to protect the identities of multiple individuals unwelcome in the GP community. While we can discuss what parts of his war-mongering are valid or not until the cows come home, it does not change the fact that you were obviously speaking of his actions in reference to the NPO.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:25 pm
by Armaros
La Navasse wrote:It's funny that you attempt to bring up the NPO as an arguing point when I haven't even mentioned it. Says a lot about what's on your mind.

What's less funny is that you're filling half this thread with inconstructive whining. Maybe get a reasonable arguement against Cormac's commend and build your feedback on that?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:31 pm
by La Navasse
Tim-Opolis wrote:
La Navasse wrote:It's funny that you attempt to bring up the NPO as an arguing point when I haven't even mentioned it. Says a lot about what's on your mind.

Here's the thing, you did bring it up. Cormac's "recent war-mongering actions" have been specifically targeting the New Pacific Order, following the Order's plans to subvert other game-created regions, their holding of St Abbaddon as a protectorate, and their choice to protect the identities of multiple individuals unwelcome in the GP community. While we can discuss what parts of his war-mongering are valid or not until the cows come home, it does not change the fact that you were obviously speaking of his actions in reference to the NPO.

If you haven't noticed, The Miniluv Messenger has had a history of war-mongering. Its most recent editions only compound this tragic history. What's happening now is only one of many actions that Cormac has done.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:40 pm
by Reventus Koth
I can't wait for everyone's favorite war monger to get the commendation he's needed for years. Who's gonna write the accompanying condemnation? :P

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:48 pm
by Xoriet
Reventus Koth wrote:I can't wait for everyone's favorite war monger to get the commendation he's needed for years. Who's gonna write the accompanying condemnation? :P

It needs to happen. Sedge was the last person to have both and he didn’t get to keep the Condemnation. Cormac could be the second person to hold both at once and actually get to keep them. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:20 pm
by Wrapper
Forum and dispatch links are not allowed. Only links that are legal are the nation and region tags, and links to previous GA or SC resolutions, including repealed resolutions.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:42 pm
by Lord Dominator
There are all my present suggestions, along with notes on what I changed and why so you can make proper decisions. Most changes were done to reduce character count, or allow later character count reduction. Please no flambe for any things I broke or misspelled and such :p



Establishing that Cormactopia Prime is ruled by the same government that rules Cormac A Stark, Cormac Stark, Cormactopia II, Ynys Prydain, Great Brigantia, and The Miniluv Messenger,

Referring hereafter to the government of the above nations collectively as Cormac,

- Slight edit to the establishing clause so it flows better into my suggested clause so you can just say 'Cormac' everywhere else (and it sounds cooler)

Noting Cormac's contributions to the World Assembly, which include the following contributions:

  • Security Council Liberations of Liberal Haven (#144), Coalition of Freedom (#154), The Arab League (#198), and The International Communist Union (#159);
  • Condemnations of The Black Riders (#127), The Pacific (#177), and The Black Hawks (#217);
  • Repeals of Commendations & Condemnations to those no longer worthy (#152, #176, and #179).

- Condensed the intro line, should still mean the same thing
- Collapsed the authorship into three categories
- Removed the mention of Unibot, since I know you don't like mentioning him (plus, it's thematic in not telling who the now disgraced people are)
- Did not add GA resolution, for sake of present character count
- Moved Gay Commend to line on LGBTQ+
- Continued use of list function

Applauding Cormac's commitment to advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and movements, including:
  • Formation and promotion of the Nationstates #LoveIsLove Campaign,
  • Authoring the Commendation of Gay (SC#254) for their own efforts in promoting LGBTQ+ rights,
  • Prior recognition of these efforts by Gay via bestowing the Order of Stonewall upon them.

- Removed Dispatch link
- Another list, I think it's roughly the same length
- Moved Gay Commend here, since it's also thematic here (and it looks just as tit-for-tat with his award either way, given clause placement)

Praising the award-winning journalistic efforts of Cormac via their puppet state The Miniluv Messenger, publication of the same name has included significant news releases such as:

  • Operation Brave Toaster: Exposed, which revealed and foiled plans by senior leadership of The East Pacific to infiltrate and influence their fellow feeder region The South Pacific,
  • Rogue's Gallery: Obvious Foreign Pilers Replace Native Endorsements, which began a series on the New Pacific Order's (The Pacific) coup and subsequent occupation of the region Lazarus,
  • Time of the Season: Alleged Coup Plot in Osiris, which revealed an insidious plot by at-time Osiris Vice-Delegate Ainocra and previous Osiris coupers The Dourian Embassy and Durkadurkiranistan III to subvert and coup the region.

- Condensed intro clause line again
- Pretty sure 'series' and 'multi-release' mean essentially the same thing, so removed the longer of the two
- Is 'coupers' a word, since I used it now?
- Condensed third clause via re-ordering and then removal of now extraneous information
- Removed the extra line breaks that were there

Recognizing that Cormac is widely recognized by their peers as one of the world's most influential nations in regional and interregional politics, having been thrice awarded (in 2016, 2017, and 2018) as the most influential nation,

...

Concluding that while Cormac has skirted the lines between villainy and heroism, their overall contribution to the world is one that is definitely Commendable,

- Slightly condensed Influential Awards line
- Condensed concluding line