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Chapman1
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I NEED YOUR SUPPORT

Postby Chapman1 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:26 pm

Please support the condmenation of Southwestern Germany that I recently proposed. The nation of Southwestern Germany refuses to act like a democracy and does not represent the same ideals as Europeia and other states. The state will not listen to the nations it represents. Also Southwestern Germany refuses to communicate with other members. I believe that Southwestern Germany needs to be recognized as a totalitartian state that only has a thirst of power among it's fellow nations. Furthermore Southwestern Germany does not represent ideals becoming of Europeia and of the World Assembly. The people of Europeia need a representative that SPEAKS FOR ALL OF THEM and not the few.

Sincerely,
Chapman1

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Borovan entered the region as he
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Ex-Nation

Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:34 pm

Hello, welcome to the SC. If you want to pass a resolution you need to first draft your proposal here, not submit a proposal. That way others can hear it but from looks of it, I don't know much about Europeia can you explain about what this delegate has done?

If you want look at some of our Passed SC resolutions
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The Winter Sun
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Winter Sun » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:47 pm

While I have no quarrel with the above mentioned state, I will be glad to further your endeavor provided you give me ample reason to do so.

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Tinhampton
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tinhampton » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:48 pm

You're not getting it from me, that's for sure. SWG has a right to do whatever he wants as WAD of Europeia, subject only to the rules of this website and the laws of his region.
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The Winter Sun
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Postby The Winter Sun » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:50 pm

Tinhampton wrote:You're not getting it from me, that's for sure. SWG has a right to do whatever he wants as WAD of Europeia, subject only to the rules of this website and the laws of his region.

What's a website have to do with this? You mean realm, right?
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Chapman1
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HELP

Postby Chapman1 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:59 pm

Dear States,

I disagree with my representative Southwestern Germany voting to repealing the "Condemn Macedon". It is firstly an important piece of NS history and was the first resolution ever passed by the WA Security Council. Also the states of Europeia have voiced their opposition to repealing this historic resolution. The majority of states in Europeia myself included have said to vote no on this resolution. I urge you to vote no and also revoke your endorsement of Southwestern Germany. The state refuses to communicate with other states and I need your help. Please vote for my proposal I just want the majority of Europeia to have a voice. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Chapman1

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Borovan entered the region as he
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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:03 pm

It's 69 to 73 so a very close majority voted against but I do believe that delegate voted based on votes from their citizens forum

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Wrapper
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:21 pm

Chapman1, stop posting this all over the forums. Keep it to this one thread, and that’s it. Continue to post new threads and you will be warned or banned for spamming.

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DACOROMANIA
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Postby DACOROMANIA » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:42 pm

Chapman1 wrote:Dear States,

I disagree with my representative Southwestern Germany voting to repealing the "Condemn Macedon". It is firstly an important piece of NS history and was the first resolution ever passed by the WA Security Council. Also the states of Europeia have voiced their opposition to repealing this historic resolution. The majority of states in Europeia myself included have said to vote no on this resolution. I urge you to vote no and also revoke your endorsement of Southwestern Germany. The state refuses to communicate with other states and I need your help. Please vote for my proposal I just want the majority of Europeia to have a voice. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Chapman1


Based on the explanation of Kuriko,

You may have previously received a telegram noting the SC resolution “Repeal Condemn Macedon” is destroying an important part of NS history. This is factually incorrect as history will be preserved through the resolution remaining in the list of all SC resolutions. Additionally, a new condemnation has been passed better explaining why Macedon deserves condemnation.

The repeal is based upon the original resolution not being comprehensive in the justification for the condemnation. As with a lot of RL governments, old SC proposals that no longer meet standards are replaced with better proposals. In this instance, that is exactly what is being done.

SC#1, like I stated before, will not cease to exist upon repeal in the sense that it won't completely disappear. It will still be in the list of passed resolutions, it will still be titled SC#1, and it will still be readable. Those arguing that repealing a resolution so old is cultural destruction are wrong, because to destroy something means to erase its existence entirely from everything.

With this in mind, I ask you to please vote for the repeal. Voting for it to be repealed will leave Macedon with only one condemnation, one that's truly written to the degree that's needed. It won't destroy any culture, it won't erase it entirely from existence, and it won't leave Macedon with one poorly written condemnation and one well written condemnation.


However, the nations of NationStates have the right and the power to vote in W.A. how they wish.

I am a member of a democratic region in game, but while I am not WAD now (I was before) and I don't have diplomatic relations with your region Europeia, I cannot help you, even on your proposal. First I should get a certain power and influence in W.A. for to help someone about WA resolutions in the future.
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Borovan entered the region as he
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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:59 pm

Chapman1 wrote:Dear States,

I disagree with my representative Southwestern Germany voting to repealing the "Condemn Macedon". It is firstly an important piece of NS history and was the first resolution ever passed by the WA Security Council. Also the states of Europeia have voiced their opposition to repealing this historic resolution. The majority of states in Europeia myself included have said to vote no on this resolution. I urge you to vote no and also revoke your endorsement of Southwestern Germany. The state refuses to communicate with other states and I need your help. Please vote for my proposal I just want the majority of Europeia to have a voice. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Chapman1

Ok to iterate the forums have people who are specialized in the WA and tend to have people who are efforting. I agree that the repeal is hypocritical of a few when it was said before that you cannot repeal a bad resolution because its historic and now it's different and I also agree that the way votes are handled isn't really democratic but it's easier to organize rather than the RMB or wait how others voted and see who's willing to make the effort.

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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:01 pm

Europeia’s delegate vote isn’t determined by the gameside vote, so your insinuation is inaccurate.
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Ambrella
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Postby Ambrella » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:05 pm

Southwestern Germany is a tyrant and I will whole-heartedly support his condemnation.
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Thatcher Whitehall
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Ex-Nation

Postby Thatcher Whitehall » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:08 pm

Full support from me! Ervald is a tyrant who only votes in-line with the elitists on the off-site forum!
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The conservative Front
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The conservative Front » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:19 pm

The vote in the region is now 72 to 72, for what it's worth.

And yes, there was a vote on the off-site forum where the "FOR" vote was heavily supported, and thus what our Delegate was legally required to follow.

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Kuramia
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Postby Kuramia » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:19 pm

How dare! Down with this tyrant! :bow:
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Southwestern Germany
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Southwestern Germany » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:20 pm

I full-heartily support my own condemnation.

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Potchen
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Ex-Nation

Postby Potchen » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:22 pm

Sic Semper Tyrannis! Southwestern Germany's reign of terror must end!

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Solorni
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Postby Solorni » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:35 pm

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Cuddlebuns
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Postby Cuddlebuns » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:39 pm

yeah i full heartedly support the condemnation of someone who does what the region wants

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Aexnidaral
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Ex-Nation

Postby Aexnidaral » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:43 pm

The Office of the Delegate has no inherent authority over WA policies in Europeia. How we vote is determined by the Ministry of World Assembly and President where a directive is issued, and otherwise by the people of the Region on the forum. We even send out TG's encouraging people to join forumside to make their voice heard. Not sure what you'd accomplish with this, frankly. SWG may not be the most active Delegate we've had politically, but he's never acted in a way that defied the lawful will of the People and Government of Europeia.
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Ambrella
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Postby Ambrella » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:29 am

Aexnidaral wrote:The Office of the Delegate has no inherent authority over WA policies in Europeia. How we vote is determined by the Ministry of World Assembly and President where a directive is issued, and otherwise by the people of the Region on the forum. We even send out TG's encouraging people to join forumside to make their voice heard. Not sure what you'd accomplish with this, frankly. SWG may not be the most active Delegate we've had politically, but he's never acted in a way that defied the lawful will of the People and Government of Europeia.

Buzzkill. What are you, some kind of shill for the tyrant? >:(
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Anarchic Turkish States
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Ex-Nation

Postby Anarchic Turkish States » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:33 am

DEMOCRACY WILL PREVAIL! GET RID OF THIS TYRANT! EUROPEIA HAS NO PLACE FOR TYRANNY!


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Postby Wrapper » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:35 am

Looks like this hot mess has been withdrawn. May as well lock.


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