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[Draft] Liberate Balder

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[Draft] Liberate Balder

Postby Ichika » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:08 pm

The Security Council,

Noting that Balder, a Sinker region birthed in the year 2011, has been a stable region for over seven years;

Believing that that stability has lulled the native nations into a sense of security, a security that is thinly veiling their regions governments coup that has lasted for two or more years;

Horrified by the fact that the regions ruling monarchical nation, Solorni, has done absolutely nothing to stop the silent couping of their region and allowed imperialist nations to take it for themselves;

Afraid that the native nations, who only want to rule their region themselves, will never get a chance due to the imperialist regime declaring any nation that disagrees with them persona non grata;

Amazed at the imperialist governments total disregard for Foreign Affairs and inter-regional friendships by banning key nations from Osiris, including former Pharoah Syberis and the nation next in line to the World Assembly Delegacy;

Astounded that a small minority of the regional electorate, a total equaling greater than one-fifths but less than half, hails from imperialist regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Europeia with the goal of using the Sinker region as a recruitment base;

Stupefied that the imperialist stranglehold on the region has been able to survive for so long without a native uprising to kick them out, and believing that liberating the region is the first step in doing so;

Hereby liberates Balder.

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Postby Erithaca » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:11 pm

Since when was Europeia monarchist?

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:53 pm

This is a rather dumb proposal, considering it's completely useless in its entirety, and not a joke.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:54 pm

Erithaca wrote:Since when was Europeia monarchist?

Where did the proposal say they were? :unsure:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:55 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Erithaca wrote:Since when was Europeia monarchist?

Where did the proposal say they were? :unsure:

Perhaps it was a mis-typing based on the draft calling Europeia Imperialist?
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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:58 pm

Why should I or anyone else here care about what's going on in Balder or any of the other sinkers?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:04 pm

The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:Why should I or anyone else here care about what's going on in Balder or any of the other sinkers?

Like it or not, all of said Sinkers are fairly interested in this place themselves, aside from controlling a couple thousand WA votes or so combined.
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Postby Erithaca » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:06 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Erithaca wrote:Since when was Europeia monarchist?

Where did the proposal say they were? :unsure:

The penultimate clause:
Astounded that a small minority of the regional electorate, a total equaling greater than one-fifths but less than half, hails from imperialist regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Europeia with the goal of using the Sinker region as a recruitment base


This proposal is ridiculous for a few reasons:

  1. Europeia is not imperialist and is pretty hard to interpret as such.
  2. Native nations haven't complained, at least as far as I have seen.
  3. No coup, silent or otherwise, has taken place in Balder, just the selection of government members.
  4. This proposal also suggests that there is something intrinsicaly wrong with a monarchist GCR.
  5. This proposal is quite clearly somebody angry at the recent PNG declerations, which are not worthy of a liberation, which applies to the whole region.
  6. This is probably just from beef from the arguments on the embassy thread of Balder.
  7. Is there any evidence of Balder being used as a recruitment base?
  8. It is unclear who this nation is a puppet of.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:46 pm

hails from imperialist regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Europeia with the goal of using the Sinker region as a recruitment base

Monarchist isn't mentioned at all in relation to Euro so not sure where you're getting that from. just to note, in GP terms there is a difference in the terms.
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Postby Queen YUNo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:24 pm

This is hilarious
I like it :3
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Postby Erithaca » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:06 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
hails from imperialist regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Europeia with the goal of using the Sinker region as a recruitment base

Monarchist isn't mentioned at all in relation to Euro so not sure where you're getting that from. just to note, in GP terms there is a difference in the terms.

I understand that now. How is Europeia meant to be imperialist?

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Postby Malphe » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:09 pm

Erithaca wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:Monarchist isn't mentioned at all in relation to Euro so not sure where you're getting that from. just to note, in GP terms there is a difference in the terms.

I understand that now. How is Europeia meant to be imperialist?

Shh, the buzzwords make perfect sense.
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Postby Miss Bad Life Choices » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:39 pm

Erithaca wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:Monarchist isn't mentioned at all in relation to Euro so not sure where you're getting that from. just to note, in GP terms there is a difference in the terms.

I understand that now. How is Europeia meant to be imperialist?


The Imperial Joint Command Coalition obviously.

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Postby Armaros » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:19 am

I couldn't help but laugh. In all seriousness, against. Many things in the proposal are true (the behaviour of Balder towards Osiris for example) but it's not enough.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:45 pm

Against.
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Postby Mr Bubbly » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:00 pm

RiderSyl wrote:Against.

Why? TEP was liberated for far worse reasons. At least Rach in coordination with Onder has made this reasonable. TEP was liberated because Yuno made a funny WFE, and worked with the West Pacific and the Black Hawks. Balder is enabling the imperialist aggression of Onder. Either repeal TEP's liberation, or make it even and pass this one.

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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:05 pm

Mr Bubbly wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:Against.

Why? TEP was liberated for far worse reasons. At least Rach in coordination with Onder has made this reasonable. TEP was liberated because Yuno made a funny WFE, and worked with the West Pacific and the Black Hawks. Balder is enabling the imperialist aggression of Onder. Either repeal TEP's liberation, or make it even and pass this one.

The liberate TEP was meant to be funny, not in serio with this. This one looks like it was copied right off the last several pages of the balder gameplay thread and with the details aforementioned it is not justifiable enough for a liberation. It does not even prevent passwording because liberations have no effect on gcrs.

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Postby Mr Bubbly » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:10 pm

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote: It does not even prevent passwording because liberations have no effect on gcrs.

Yet TEP was liberated? What purpose did that serve other than to make Yuno look good? Rach has accomplished far more than Yuno ever has, so whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:21 pm

Mr Bubbly wrote:
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote: It does not even prevent passwording because liberations have no effect on gcrs.

Yet TEP was liberated? What purpose did that serve other than to make Yuno look good? Rach has accomplished far more than Yuno ever has, so whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

It's not meant to make her look good, she was already well liked by a segment of a certain demographic of players. If the security council is meant to be only as taken seriously, then yeah the resolution might be moot, but this is seen as something of an in-joke.

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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:36 pm

Mr Bubbly wrote:Either repeal TEP's liberation, or make it even and pass this one.


No.
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Postby Xoriet » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:16 am

Two totally different situations. TEP actually wanted their Liberation. Balder being Liberated for serious reasons makes no sense because a Liberation used seriously against a GCR is pointless. A Liberation does literally nothing to a GCR, which is why the only reason to pass one is as a joke.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:53 am

Xoriet wrote:Two totally different situations. TEP actually wanted their Liberation. Balder being Liberated for serious reasons makes no sense because a Liberation used seriously against a GCR is pointless. A Liberation does literally nothing to a GCR, which is why the only reason to pass one is as a joke.

A liberation also does nothing to foundered regions, but we've accepted them as a sort of "condemnation-but-we-actually-mean-it".
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:18 pm

Aclion wrote:
Xoriet wrote:Two totally different situations. TEP actually wanted their Liberation. Balder being Liberated for serious reasons makes no sense because a Liberation used seriously against a GCR is pointless. A Liberation does literally nothing to a GCR, which is why the only reason to pass one is as a joke.

A liberation also does nothing to foundered regions, but we've accepted them as a sort of "condemnation-but-we-actually-mean-it".

It does do something to a foundered region, just not one with much of an effect (yet)
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Postby Consular » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:54 am

Ehhh


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