[PROPOSAL] Commend Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators

[Lalop]

Drop this already.

I’m not dropping it. The proposal shall remain as is. Stop trying to infringe on my sovereignty to propose as I please to the World Assembly.

Agreed.

[RiderSyl]

At least our diplomatic staff don't need to spend any time composing a new response, as the prior one remains unchanged:

It is the belief of the Shogunate delegation that the region in question has done nothing of particular worth to merit any recognition from the World Assembly, whether a commendation or a condemnation. Spending resources on a campaign of self-aggrandizement is the region's only tangible achievement. Insofar as their impact on the global community, their contributions both positive and negative are very close to non-existent. Should this proposal reach the voting floor, the Shogunate's current position is firmly against.

Agreed.

[Kavagrad]

Given what we already know about certain conservative regions, you might be surprised...

Speaking of baldy rejected proposals.....

At least it made quorum, pal.

EDIT: Also, who you calling a baldy?

[Jocospor]

Admiring of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for maintaining diplomatic relations with model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa,

I would be really interested to hear what actual conservative regions have to say about the author slandering them by lumping them in with alt-right nazi LARPers, internet edgelords and out and out racists.

OOC: This is completely laughable. First it was "All of you are fascists - in the game and in real life!!" (N.B. no, some of our nations are fascist in the game, some of our players may be fascist IRL (not my concern), no member of our regional government is fascist in the game or IRL)

Now, it's "They're out and out racists!!" Care to clarify if you're making this accusation within the context of the game or you're actually going so far as to throw unsubstantiated slanders at our players?

[New Excalibus]

Please. Some mod lock this thread. It's descended into madness at this point.

[Jocospor]

OOC: If it's the latter, you'll withdraw your remark, because I take particular offence at that.

[New Excalibus]

I would be really interested to hear what actual conservative regions have to say about the author slandering them by lumping them in with alt-right nazi LARPers, internet edgelords and out and out racists.

OOC: This is completely laughable. First it was "All of you are fascists - in the game and in real life!!" (N.B. no, some of our nations are fascist in the game, some of our players may be fascist IRL (not my concern), no member of our regional government is fascist in the game or IRL)

Now, it's "They're out and out racists!!" Care to clarify if you're making this accusation within the context of the game or you're actually going so far as to throw unsubstantiated slanders at our players?

Additionally, not all fascists are racists; I think it's just whenever someone says "fascist", Hitler comes to mind. To me, it's Italy that comes to mind; they were the only one to still keep a somewhat stable nation.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I don't know why this thread is so popular. All it is doing is giving the CCD the attention they crave.

[New Excalibus]

I don't know why this thread is so popular. All it is doing is giving the CCD the attention they crave.

Agreed.

[RiderSyl]

I would be really interested to hear what actual conservative regions have to say about the author slandering them by lumping them in with alt-right nazi LARPers, internet edgelords and out and out racists.

OOC: This is completely laughable. First it was "All of you are fascists - in the game and in real life!!" (N.B. no, some of our nations are fascist in the game, some of our players may be fascist IRL (not my concern), no member of our regional government is fascist in the game or IRL)

Now, it's "They're out and out racists!!" Care to clarify if you're making this accusation within the context of the game or you're actually going so far as to throw unsubstantiated slanders at our players?

OOC: You really need to read what you're replying to before going off on a tangent like this. The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa are called "model conservative regions" in the proposal. Caracasus says that those two regions have out and out racists in them that conservatives were being compared to. For Nazi Europa, that's undoubtedly true. He wasn't referring to the CoCD there, so your complaints about the narrative shifting about CoCD and your comments about the CoCD's regional government are totally irrelevant.

[Jocospor]

OOC: This is completely laughable. First it was "All of you are fascists - in the game and in real life!!" (N.B. no, some of our nations are fascist in the game, some of our players may be fascist IRL (not my concern), no member of our regional government is fascist in the game or IRL)

Now, it's "They're out and out racists!!" Care to clarify if you're making this accusation within the context of the game or you're actually going so far as to throw unsubstantiated slanders at our players?

OOC: You really need to read what you're replying to before going off on a tangent like this. The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa are called "model conservative regions" in the proposal. Caracasus says that those two regions have out and out racists in them that conservatives were being compared to. For Nazi Europa, that's undoubtedly true. He wasn't referring to the CoCD there, so your complaints about the narrative shifting about CoCD and your comments about the CoCD's regional government are totally irrelevant.

OOC: I see what you're saying. I hope very much that I misread, though your interpretation isn't 100% clear in Carcasus' writing. He/she can do us all a favour and clarify that his/her claims of racism were in no way aimed at my region or its playerbase.

[Malphe]

We still doing this bollocks? I think you know this won't pass, I think you know it won't even get close.

[Caracasus]

Very damn clear that I was stating that conservatives would be very pissed off at being lumped in the same group as KR and Nazi Europa. And quite rightly too.

[Jocospor]

Very damn clear that I was stating that conservatives would be very pissed off at being lumped in the same group as KR and Nazi Europa. And quite rightly too.

OOC: Duly noted.

[The Confederate Territory]

Please. Some mod lock this thread. It's descended into madness at this point.

Just wait until this proposal is at vote

[The Confederate Territory]

Admiring of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for maintaining diplomatic relations with model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa,

Inspired by the attempt of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to commend themselves,

This may receive the lowest amount of support in site history if it reaches the vote.

As a former delegate of Northern Redlands and as a personal friend of TCT, I speak on behalf of Northern Redlands and the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators when I say that we don't care about the proposal's results and we especially don't care for the approval of morally pompous forumgoers.

I decided to go look at WTF "Northern Redlands" is, since you brought it up. Apparently, it's a small region you and TCT owned, one that TCT tried to write a Commendation for. Interesting. No wonder TCT admires COCD for trying to commend themselves. He and you tried to do the same thing!
viewtopic.php?t=429887

Honestly, that's all this bullshit is the byproduct of. The sore losers of NS. Fascists, Nazi roleplayers, failed authors and targets of self-commends... anyone with too much of an ego to blame themselves for their failures is joining in on this attempt at a giant middle finger to the Security Council. The problem is, that no matter how many comments they post and campaign telegrams and votes they buy, they can't get past the super-delegates. So then they'll sit and whine about how the system isn't fair because they have to have it all working in their favor.

If the entire system has to work in your favor in order for you to pass one proposal, then maybe, just MAYBE, your ideas just fucking suck.

Earlier in this thread, I already brought up that we had a proposal reach quorum for a self commendation. We didn't fully realize what we were doing at the time and how that was wrong. We were merely new to the game.

Also, with how harshly this proposal has been reacted to here on the forums despite the amount of support it has received elsewhere so far, I have come forth to the conclusion that the ego lies in the minds of the forumgoer population. But that includes me now I guess

[Ransium]

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This may receive the lowest amount of support in site history if it reaches the vote.



I decided to go look at WTF "Northern Redlands" is, since you brought it up. Apparently, it's a small region you and TCT owned, one that TCT tried to write a Commendation for. Interesting. No wonder TCT admires COCD for trying to commend themselves. He and you tried to do the same thing!
viewtopic.php?t=429887

Honestly, that's all this bullshit is the byproduct of. The sore losers of NS. Fascists, Nazi roleplayers, failed authors and targets of self-commends... anyone with too much of an ego to blame themselves for their failures is joining in on this attempt at a giant middle finger to the Security Council. The problem is, that no matter how many comments they post and campaign telegrams and votes they buy, they can't get past the super-delegates. So then they'll sit and whine about how the system isn't fair because they have to have it all working in their favor.

If the entire system has to work in your favor in order for you to pass one proposal, then maybe, just MAYBE, your ideas just fucking suck.

Earlier in this thread, I already brought up that we had a proposal reach quorum for a self commendation. We didn't fully realize what we were doing at the time and how that was wrong. We were merely new to the game.

Also, with how harshly this proposal has been reacted to here on the forums despite the amount of support it has received elsewhere so far, I have come forth to the conclusion that the ego lies in the minds of the forumgoer population. But that includes me now I guess

What if this proposal makes it to quorum and then does goes down by a 90% - 10% margin? Will this change your thinking in anyway?

[The Confederate Territory]

Earlier in this thread, I already brought up that we had a proposal reach quorum for a self commendation. We didn't fully realize what we were doing at the time and how that was wrong. We were merely new to the game.

Also, with how harshly this proposal has been reacted to here on the forums despite the amount of support it has received elsewhere so far, I have come forth to the conclusion that the ego lies in the minds of the forumgoer population. But that includes me now I guess

What if this proposal makes it to quorum and then goes down by a 90% - 10% margin? Will this change your thinking in anyway?

The outcome of the vote won't change my thinking, but this entire process of creating a forum post and hearing what you all have to say certainly has. Next proposal I make will be more reasonable and not an attempt to commend "fascists," however that is to be defined as.

I mean, my region is not fascist, it's diverse in political views and open to free throught and practice of whatever desired ideology, so maybe I could work on a proposal that better reflects those traits of my region? That being said, I certainly embrace my conservative allies and am appreciative of the support this proposal has gotten.

[Ransium]

What if this proposal makes it to quorum and then goes down by a 90% - 10% margin? Will this change your thinking in anyway?

The outcome of the vote won't change my thinking, but this entire process of creating a forum post and hearing what you all have to say certainly has. Next proposal I make will be more reasonable and not an attempt to commend "fascists," however that is to be defined as.

I mean, my region is not fascist, it's diverse in political views and open to free throught and practice of whatever desired ideology, so maybe I could work on a proposal that better reflects those traits of my region? That being said, I certainly embrace my conservative allies and am appreciative of the support this proposal has gotten.

Fair enough. As a possible suggestion, have a look over this list of possible targets, many of the regions reflect those views: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=402817&hilit=unibot I think Philosophy 115 would be a particularly good target to reflect the value of "open and free thought".

[The Confederate Territory]

The outcome of the vote won't change my thinking, but this entire process of creating a forum post and hearing what you all have to say certainly has. Next proposal I make will be more reasonable and not an attempt to commend "fascists," however that is to be defined as.

I mean, my region is not fascist, it's diverse in political views and open to free throught and practice of whatever desired ideology, so maybe I could work on a proposal that better reflects those traits of my region? That being said, I certainly embrace my conservative allies and am appreciative of the support this proposal has gotten.

Fair enough. As a possible suggestion, have a look over this list of possible targets, many of the regions reflect those views: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=402817&hilit=unibot I think Philosophy 115 would be a particularly good target to reflect the value of "open and free thought".

Thank you very much, this is greatly appreciated

[Novum Vallis]

Admiring of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for maintaining diplomatic relations with model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa,

Inspired by the attempt of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to commend themselves,

This may receive the lowest amount of support in site history if it reaches the vote.

As a former delegate of Northern Redlands and as a personal friend of TCT, I speak on behalf of Northern Redlands and the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators when I say that we don't care about the proposal's results and we especially don't care for the approval of morally pompous forumgoers.

I decided to go look at WTF "Northern Redlands" is, since you brought it up. Apparently, it's a small region you and TCT owned, one that TCT tried to write a Commendation for. Interesting. No wonder TCT admires COCD for trying to commend themselves. He and you tried to do the same thing!
viewtopic.php?t=429887

Honestly, that's all this bullshit is the byproduct of. The sore losers of NS. Fascists, Nazi roleplayers, failed authors and targets of self-commends... anyone with too much of an ego to blame themselves for their failures is joining in on this attempt at a giant middle finger to the Security Council. The problem is, that no matter how many comments they post and campaign telegrams and votes they buy, they can't get past the super-delegates. So then they'll sit and whine about how the system isn't fair because they have to have it all working in their favor.

If the entire system has to work in your favor in order for you to pass one proposal, then maybe, just MAYBE, your ideas just fucking suck.

TCT didn't write the proposal because he "admired COCD for commending themselves", but please, go on, tell us something you "know" that we don't.

[Kavagrad]

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This may receive the lowest amount of support in site history if it reaches the vote.



I decided to go look at WTF "Northern Redlands" is, since you brought it up. Apparently, it's a small region you and TCT owned, one that TCT tried to write a Commendation for. Interesting. No wonder TCT admires COCD for trying to commend themselves. He and you tried to do the same thing!
viewtopic.php?t=429887

Honestly, that's all this bullshit is the byproduct of. The sore losers of NS. Fascists, Nazi roleplayers, failed authors and targets of self-commends... anyone with too much of an ego to blame themselves for their failures is joining in on this attempt at a giant middle finger to the Security Council. The problem is, that no matter how many comments they post and campaign telegrams and votes they buy, they can't get past the super-delegates. So then they'll sit and whine about how the system isn't fair because they have to have it all working in their favor.

If the entire system has to work in your favor in order for you to pass one proposal, then maybe, just MAYBE, your ideas just fucking suck.

TCT didn't write the proposal because he "admired COCD for commending themselves", but please, go on, tell us something you "know" that we don't.

"Inspired by the attempt of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to commend themselves"

The reason they know more about the proposal than you might have something to do with the fact that they actually read it, something that you clearly haven't done properly.

[Tinhampton]

TCT didn't write the proposal because he "admired COCD for commending themselves", but please, go on, tell us something you "know" that we don't.

No, he wrote it as a shitty recruitment gimmick for Northern Redlands and as a middle-finger to the WA, oh joy...

edit to add: Caracasus' post below contains my original quote, although the substance of the post, before and after, is by and large the same.

[Caracasus]

Turns out this proposal is a shitty recruitment gimmick for the Northern Redlands, oh joy!

Lol, just checked out their RMB. No idea I had a fan club.

[Malphe]

TCT didn't write the proposal because he "admired COCD for commending themselves", but please, go on, tell us something you "know" that we don't.

No, he wrote it as a shitty recruitment gimmick for Northern Redlands and as a middle-finger to the WA, oh joy...

edit to add: Caracasus' post below contains my original quote, although the substance of the post, before and after, is by and large the same.

I sure do feel very fucked with. Yes, I am very angry. We should definitely condemn Northern Redlands. They are completely evil and the WA has to take a stand. I have taken the bait and am baited.