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[PROPOSAL] Commend Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators

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[PROPOSAL] Commend Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators

Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:49 am

The Security Council,

Aware that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators has often been a target of other regions due to their beliefs alone,

Amazed by the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators' embracing of far right wing ideology,

Admiring of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for maintaining diplomatic relations with model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa,

Inspired by the attempt of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to commend themselves,

Also noting that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators is a region promoting basic national sovereignty to grant nations the freedom of doing as they please in accordance with the Imperial Law,

Believes that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators deserves a commendation for such admirable traits and actions.

This resolution hereby commends the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.
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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:50 am

Good morning all,

The proposal is available here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1539431389

Please feel free to leave any feedback on the proposal. All is appreciated!
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:04 am

Never. Fascists do not deserve any recognition from a C&C in the SC.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:05 am

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Postby New Excalibus » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:07 am

I do agree that the WA has lately been discriminating Fascists and Commies, but commending them could cause more carnage then we already have.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:08 am

Is this proposal serious, or was it solely created for the HUE value? Why exactly did you not draft this one beforehand?
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:09 am

Tinhampton wrote:Is this proposal serious, or was it solely created for the HUE value? Why exactly did you not draft this one beforehand?

They submitted and sent a campaign, looks serious to me :roll:
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Postby Pergamon » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:12 am

Seems that you lack a bit of support.
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The Confederate Territory wrote:The Security Council,

Aware that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators has often been a target of other regions due to their beliefs alone,

Amazed by the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators' embracing of far right wing ideology,


Why should embracing far right wind ideology be commendable? This is nationstates where anyone can roleplay just about any ideology. Adopting any sort of ideology should not be a point of commendation. I think you said this because you know the WA leans left.

Admiring of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for maintaining diplomatic relations with model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations and Nazi Europa,


Why is maintaining relations with other regions commendable? Almost every region does it. I think you said this because you know facist nations like Nazi Europa are not generally very popular in the World Assembly.

Inspired by the attempt of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to commend themselves,


Anyone can attempt to commend themselves. I could do so in the time it took me to write this post. I think you said this because you know self commends are looked upon with derision in the WA.

Also noting that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators is a region promoting basic national sovereignty to grant nations the freedom of doing as they please in accordance with the Imperial Law,


Every region has some sort of policy towards how it handles nations within it. Why should simply stating they have one be commendable? I'm not sure if this was intended to be a poke at the WA limiting national sovereignty or not, but seems likely.

Believes that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators deserves a commendation for such admirable traits and actions.

This resolution hereby commends the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.


I don't think it's accidental that you try to commend an unpopular region for unpopular reasons. I hope others will see this is as the low effort attempt to drum up drama and not take the bait, but it seems unlikely.
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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:13 am

Tinhampton wrote:Is this proposal serious, or was it solely created for the HUE value? Why exactly did you not draft this one beforehand?


It's serious, I think you should really consider it for what it is.

Also, am personally not a fan of the forums. I was rather reluctant to even make this post based on negative past experiences, but I figured I could learn a bit more this way.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:15 am

The Confederate Territory wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Is this proposal serious, or was it solely created for the HUE value? Why exactly did you not draft this one beforehand?


It's serious, I think you should really consider it for what it is.

Hmmm... a proposal that Commends a region based on being fascist, allying with fascists, imposing fascism on their member states, and trying (and failing) to commend their fascist selves? Eh, I'll pass on this one.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:17 am

Ransium wrote:
The Confederate Territory wrote:Believes that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators deserves a commendation for such admirable traits and actions.

This resolution hereby commends the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.


I don't think it's accidental that you try to commend an unpopular region for unpopular reasons. I hope others will see this is as the low effort attempt to drum up drama and not take the bait, but it seems unlikely.

I rolled my eyes when I saw it come up in que.
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Postby Jocospor » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:28 am

*the Delegate's Office spills its tea everywhere Gracious - and we didn't even have anything to do with it this time!

Well, if this does reach quorum, we'll let the thing run its course and see how it goes. Imperial thanks are in order to the Cat Republic for their kind gesture.

Tinhampton wrote:Hmmm... a proposal that Commends a region based on being fascist, allying with fascists, imposing fascism on their member states, and trying (and failing) to commend their fascist selves? Eh, I'll pass on this one.


Even if we did "impose fascism", how do you suggest we impose on those who join us out of choice? Truly, we got a laugh out of that one.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:31 am

The Confederate Territory wrote:Good morning all,

The proposal is available here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1539431389

Please feel free to leave any feedback on the proposal. All is appreciated!

My feedback is that this region has done nothing commend worthy. Against; also listing embassies that they have with Nazi regions, and their previous attempt to commend themselves, is not going to do your proposal any favors.
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Postby New Bremerton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:54 am

Oh my god. Not this again. I got into trouble with NSLeft over their perceived hypocrisy in targeting only fascists such as you guys while turning a blind eye to communist and other authoritarian regions. My non-WA puppet, a role-playing communist dictatorship (now communist-fascist), joined the CCD, not knowing it had an ideological bent of any sort. I'm not falling for this shit again. Regions such as these absolutely deserve to be destroyed, utterly and mercilessly, like rabid dogs. Fascists must be eradicated from NationStates. But if a proposal to liberate or condemn a communist or some other authoritarian region (TCB is neither of these apparently) is put to a vote, it too will have my support, witch hunt or no witch hunt.

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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:56 am

New Bremerton wrote:But if a proposal to liberate or condemn a communist or some other authoritarian region (TCB is neither of these apparently) is put to a vote, it too will have my support, witch hunt or no witch hunt.


I'll surely keep that in mind :) thanks!
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Postby Caracasus » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:04 am

The actual fuck is this? Groundhog day?
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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:06 am

Caracasus wrote:The actual fuck is this? Groundhog day?


Hey this is supposed to be PG-13, you really shouldn't be dropping f-bombs.
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Postby Visionary Union » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:08 am

Is it April fools day, or just baiting? I'm not sure what is worse, because for a joke, it doesn't amuse anyone save perhaps the author, and I doubt that too many people will rise to the bait.
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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:09 am

Visionary Union wrote:Is it April fools day, or just baiting? I'm not sure what is worse, because for a joke, it doesn't amuse anyone save perhaps the author, and I doubt that too many people will rise to the bait.


This is a legitimate proposal. Do you want me to explain my reasoning behind it? I am more than welcome to.
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Postby Armaros » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:10 am

Wait. These silly kids/fascists are being serious? Lmao. Can we stop the bullshit here? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Btw, are we all in agreement to stop paying attention to this garbage joke and move on to actual proposals?
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:14 am

The Confederate Territory wrote:
Visionary Union wrote:Is it April fools day, or just baiting? I'm not sure what is worse, because for a joke, it doesn't amuse anyone save perhaps the author, and I doubt that too many people will rise to the bait.


This is a legitimate proposal. Do you want me to explain my reasoning behind it? I am more than welcome to.

Yes. Wording such as "Amazed by the [CCD's] embracing of far right wing ideology," "model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations," and "grant[ing] nations the freedom of doing as they please in accordance with the Imperial Law" (has anybody read it yet?) surely cannot be a coincidence!
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* WA Delegate-Ambassador: Alexander Smith (NatSov)
* WA Assistant: Bianca Venkman (IntFed)
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Postby Visionary Union » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:21 am

The Confederate Territory wrote:
Visionary Union wrote:Is it April fools day, or just baiting? I'm not sure what is worse, because for a joke, it doesn't amuse anyone save perhaps the author, and I doubt that too many people will rise to the bait.


This is a legitimate proposal. Do you want me to explain my reasoning behind it? I am more than welcome to.

By all means do. It might just raise the bar of this proposal to an actual joke.
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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:21 am

Tinhampton wrote:
The Confederate Territory wrote:
This is a legitimate proposal. Do you want me to explain my reasoning behind it? I am more than welcome to.

Yes. Wording such as "Amazed by the [CCD's] embracing of far right wing ideology," "model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations," and "grant[ing] nations the freedom of doing as they please in accordance with the Imperial Law" (has anybody read it yet?) surely cannot be a coincidence!


"Amazed by the [CCD's] embracing of far right wing ideology" is commendable. Not only is it different than the majority of the WA, but the fact that this region has persevered through attacks on the forums, WA, in their own region, and was even liberated by the Security Council really demonstrates the contempt this region faces. Yet despite all this contempt, they persevere through it and continue to live out their ideal far right wing ideology. I find it inspiring.

"model conservative regions including The Coalition of Fascist Nations," is as simple as that. I merely listed some good conservative nations that I am glad to see the Confederation work with. Alone is that commendable? No. But it shows that they work with the regions of the world to create a better place for all. I find that commendable.

Lastly, "grant[ing] nations the freedom of doing as they please in accordance with the Imperial Law." I listed that because it relates to me dearly. In my own region, the Northern Redlands, nations of different alliances constantly attempt to tread on my own and disregard my national sovereignty. National sovereignty is a very important trait because nations truly should be free to do as they please, as long as it infringes on no covenant established by joining region (in this case, the Imperial Law)

Shoot any questions my way, I hope this clarifies some of my intent :D
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Postby The Confederate Territory » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:23 am

Visionary Union wrote:
The Confederate Territory wrote:
This is a legitimate proposal. Do you want me to explain my reasoning behind it? I am more than welcome to.

By all means do. It might just raise the bar if this proposal to an actual joke.


The actual reasoning behind this is that this is a region that has constantly been persecuted for its beliefs. I am no fascist, nor am I a kid trying to play a joke. I am merely standing up and recognizing a region for its worth, despite its labels of fascism.
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