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Kavagrad
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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:03 am

Lalop wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Mind you, it doesn't help that you have an embassy with them, and your dispatches have been added to the featured dispatches of a tag-raided region after a raid that was aided by Nazis. You might want to have a chat with them about that, not the best look for you.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1105571 Most members of our region singed his concordat. Were not afraid to work with Facists you guys are the greater threat.

I love that Gagium showed up to try and play down FCN's involvement with these guys, and you throw this into the mix. Truly beautiful.
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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:03 am

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Lalop wrote:meh its prob not well known in TNP but in my region all those regions are because they are premier fighters against communism.

Significantly smaller region than TNP here, and supposedly this "premier fighters" target. I've never heard of them.

They have been doing a lot at a high pace but they've only been around for 3 weeks.

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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:05 am

Kavagrad wrote:
Lalop wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1105571 Most members of our region singed his concordat. Were not afraid to work with Facists you guys are the greater threat.

I love that Gagium showed up to try and play down FCN's involvement with these guys, and you throw this into the mix. Truly beautiful.

Gaigium is sensitive about it because he doesn't want to get lib'ed again despite in terms of population it was the best thing that ever happened to us. Much of the rest of the FCN is all for it.

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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:07 am

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Kavagrad wrote:Significantly smaller region than TNP here, and supposedly this "premier fighters" target. I've never heard of them.

They have been doing a lot at a high pace but they've only been around for 3 weeks.

If a region that's been around for 3 weeks are NS anti-com's "premier fighters", I'm not worried.
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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:09 am

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Lalop wrote:They have been doing a lot at a high pace but they've only been around for 3 weeks.

If a region that's been around for 3 weeks are NS anti-com's "premier fighters", I'm not worried.

You should be there averaging about a raid a day, higher then almost all groups expect TBH the Invaders and the wolf clan.

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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:11 am

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Kavagrad wrote:If a region that's been around for 3 weeks are NS anti-com's "premier fighters", I'm not worried.

You should be there averaging about a raid a day, higher then almost all groups expect TBH the Invaders and the wolf clan.

Of tiny, often founderless regions of less than 20 nations. Thanks for funnelling all their nations over to the larger Leftist regions, we really appreciate the boost ;)
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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:13 am

Kavagrad wrote:
Lalop wrote:You should be there averaging about a raid a day, higher then almost all groups expect TBH the Invaders and the wolf clan.

Of tiny, often founderless regions of less than 20 nations. Thanks for funnelling all their nations over to the larger Leftist regions, we really appreciate the boost ;)

No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people, and nations with active founders are impossible to raid.

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Postby Ubertas » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:18 am

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Kavagrad wrote:Of tiny, often founderless regions of less than 20 nations. Thanks for funnelling all their nations over to the larger Leftist regions, we really appreciate the boost ;)

No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people, and nations with active founders are impossible to raid.


And yet that's exactly what these Pinochet fools do 95% of the time...
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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:19 am

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Kavagrad wrote:Of tiny, often founderless regions of less than 20 nations. Thanks for funnelling all their nations over to the larger Leftist regions, we really appreciate the boost ;)

No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people, and nations with active founders are impossible to raid.

I'll accept that second point, ignoring the fact that APVF are mainly tag raiders, and therefore totally can target regions with founders.

First point is blatantly false though. Here's TBH's current occupation.
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Postby Ubertas » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:22 am

Lalop wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Mind you, it doesn't help that you have an embassy with them, and your dispatches have been added to the featured dispatches of a tag-raided region after a raid that was aided by Nazis. You might want to have a chat with them about that, not the best look for you.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1105571 Most members of our region singed his concordat. Were not afraid to work with Facists you guys are the greater threat.


The level of hypocrisy is growing... You all claim to stand for "freedom" and yet you work with those who promote an ideology that contributed to the most systematic intentional mass genocide in history.

Grammar check: it's Fascists not "facists"
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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:46 am

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Lalop wrote:No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people, and nations with active founders are impossible to raid.

I'll accept that second point, ignoring the fact that APVF are mainly tag raiders, and therefore totally can target regions with founders.

First point is blatantly false though. Here's TBH's current occupation.

I said most raiders not TBH, any other ones generally do small ones, the black hawks can do bigger ones because of their manpower/size.

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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:48 am

Ubertas wrote:
Lalop wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1105571 Most members of our region singed his concordat. Were not afraid to work with Facists you guys are the greater threat.


The level of hypocrisy is growing... You all claim to stand for "freedom" and yet you work with those who promote an ideology that contributed to the most systematic intentional mass genocide in history.

Grammar check: it's Fascists not "facists"

Most intentional mass genocise is the Great leap forward. I don't like to work with 'Fascists' but better dead then red.
Note:APVF is not fascist it says so in their raids. They get support from a plethora of anti communist from libertarians to Fasicsts.

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Postby Malphe » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:07 am

Lalop wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Of tiny, often founderless regions of less than 20 nations. Thanks for funnelling all their nations over to the larger Leftist regions, we really appreciate the boost ;)

No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people, and nations with active founders are impossible to raid.

On the contrary, raids of regions bigger than 20 people are very common, at least among competent raiders. I've probably tagged regions that size with a few people, IDK where you're getting this information.
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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:20 am

Lalop wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:I'll accept that second point, ignoring the fact that APVF are mainly tag raiders, and therefore totally can target regions with founders.

First point is blatantly false though. Here's TBH's current occupation.

I said most raiders not TBH


Lalop wrote:I said most raiders not TBH

Lalop wrote:No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people


I don't see any mention of "most" or "not TBH" in reference to the size of regions raided.

C'mon, if you're gonna lie, at least lie in a different thread to the proof of the lie.
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Postby Dynastic Systems of Salir » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:39 am

Lalop wrote:
Malphe wrote:It also depends on who they're raiding, the culture of their region and the way they go about it. MT Army and whatever this is don't share much when you factor in more than just ideological raiding. The MT Army is also competent.
And before you bring up "BUT COMMUNISM IS AS BAD AS FASCISM", no it isn't. Communism is bad but it doesn't explicitly have the intention of genocide, it isn't a hateful ideology.

Communism has killed 330 million people in under 100 years. Way worse then facism, which was only in power in 2 countries.

*3

And that’s not counting fascist movements across the world and shortlived fascist governments.
And Japan.
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Postby Visionary Union » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:32 pm

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Visionary Union wrote:He has lost touch with reality it appears. Bah, we're feeding the troll. Let this resolution die before it even reaches quorum.

dout you ever authored anything that come close to reaching quorum.

That's because I never drafted any resolution. But you can be sure that if I choose to do so, it'll be done properly, with people giving criticism, suggestions for improvement and I won't submit it for at least 1 week.

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Postby Lalop » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:10 pm

Dynastic Systems of Salir wrote:
Lalop wrote:Communism has killed 330 million people in under 100 years. Way worse then facism, which was only in power in 2 countries.

*3

And that’s not counting fascist movements across the world and shortlived fascist governments.
And Japan.

Japan was not fasist it was more of a dictatorship-Therocracy with the Emperor as god King.
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Postby Dynastic Systems of Salir » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:25 pm

Lalop wrote:
Dynastic Systems of Salir wrote:*3

And that’s not counting fascist movements across the world and shortlived fascist governments.
And Japan.

Japan want fasist it was more of a dictatorship-Therocracy with the Emperor as god King.

It’s dominant ideology, statism, was called Japanese fascism because it basically was that. Fascism.
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Postby Gagium » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:11 pm

Lalop wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Mind you, it doesn't help that you have an embassy with them, and your dispatches have been added to the featured dispatches of a tag-raided region after a raid that was aided by Nazis. You might want to have a chat with them about that, not the best look for you.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1105571 Most members of our region singed his concordat. Were not afraid to work with Facists you guys are the greater threat.

It seems as if he counts anyone who liked his post as signing the ‘concordat’..cool
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Postby Cedoria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:30 pm

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Visionary Union wrote:He wasting our time and his internet, and the former has importance. Posting a bad proposal after bad proposal and then submitting it without even fixing basic grammar and spelling issues is spammy. Because you clearly don't care about your resolution passing, you only wish to try and annoy us, in which you fail horribly.

Im not wasting your time, if you have already made up your mind about the proposal then ignore it. simple. Also, I'm annoying you very well right now, judging by your choice of words.

Trust me, if you think you aren't wasting our time, you're not a very good judge.

Cease this farce. This nonsensical stuff is just making you look very foolish. Trust me, there are plenty of people like you, they pop along every few months, then they go away. You won't end up any differently. If you want to have a position where you can actually have some respect, you'll cut this nonsense, right now.
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Postby Cedoria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:33 pm

Lalop wrote:
Benjabobaria wrote:Lol, are those guys those insane anti-communist moralist raiders I always see when looking for places to tag? They give me a good chuckle.

They do a good job at it! They haven't even been around for a month and there executing about a raid a day! There the most active anti communist raiders right now.

Against regions which are essentially dead, with no activity. Yeah, they're TREMENDOUS. I am honestly THUNDERSTRUCK nobody thought they should get commended for taking over dead regions with no actual activity left before then.

They can put their money where their mouth is, and raid a fully-functioning, proper region, then I'll be impressed, until then, they, and you, are a bunch of pretenders, prancing around congratulating yourself and saying how good you are at raiding. Believe me, if they were that good, you wouldn't need to keep saying that they are.
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Postby Cedoria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:33 pm

Lalop wrote:
Malphe wrote:It also depends on who they're raiding, the culture of their region and the way they go about it. MT Army and whatever this is don't share much when you factor in more than just ideological raiding. The MT Army is also competent.
And before you bring up "BUT COMMUNISM IS AS BAD AS FASCISM", no it isn't. Communism is bad but it doesn't explicitly have the intention of genocide, it isn't a hateful ideology.

Communism has killed 330 million people in under 100 years. Way worse then facism, which was only in power in 2 countries.

Haha. No. It didn't.
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Postby Independent and Sovereign Quebec » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:34 pm

Lalop wrote:The Security Council,
COMMENDING
The Augusto Pinochet Vengeance Force 'hereafter known as the APVF' for raiding communist regions.
AMAZED
That despite being a small region the APVF has raided and refounded at one of the quickest paces ever by an anti communist military.
APPULAUDING
The APVF's strong anti Communist stance, and williness to work with all anti communist's in order to expel communism from the world.
HOPING
That the APVF Commendation will serve as a beacon of hope to all of the world's anti-communists.
Herby Commends The Augusto Pinochet Vengeance Force.

I support this. Pinochet did nothing wrong

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Postby Cedoria » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:36 pm

Lalop wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Of tiny, often founderless regions of less than 20 nations. Thanks for funnelling all their nations over to the larger Leftist regions, we really appreciate the boost ;)

No Raiding group really raids regions bigger then 20 people, and nations with active founders are impossible to raid.

Which is why these morons keep doing it, obviously.

Also, it IS very possible to raid bigger regions, if you actually have some clue what you're doing. That this group doesn't only puts the lie to... everything you've said here.
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