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[DRAFT\CLOSED] Condemn the Augusto Pinochet Vengence Force

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[DRAFT\CLOSED] Condemn the Augusto Pinochet Vengence Force

Postby Agarntrop » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:14 am

Category: Condemnation| Nominee: The Augusto Pinochet Vengence Force| Proposed by: Agarntrop


The security council,


Knowing that the Augusto Pinochet Vengence Force is a fascist raider reigon that frequently cleanses communist reigons;
Believing that it's fascist raider activities are abhorrent and order to be stopped immediately;
Acknowledging that, as the Augusto Pinochet Vengence Force is a raider reigon with no World Assembly account, raiding it is impossible;
Therefore coming to the conclusion that the strongest sanction that can be imposed is a condemnation;

Hereby condemns The Augusto Pinochet Vengence Force
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Postby Kuriko » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:10 pm

Who? I've never heard of this group, and me being a member of the defender community I would have before now. No support, and besides it doesn't have any details at all.
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Postby Tupelope » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:20 pm

Kuriko wrote:Who? I've never heard of this group, and me being a member of the defender community I would have before now. No support, and besides it doesn't have any details at all.

They are a fascist "tag" group that goes around tagging communist regions and potentially refounding them if they can kick nations in one update. Their tagging though is pretty pathetic and do not deserve this condemnation at all.

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Postby Kuriko » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:41 pm

Tupelope wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Who? I've never heard of this group, and me being a member of the defender community I would have before now. No support, and besides it doesn't have any details at all.

They are a fascist "tag" group that goes around tagging communist regions and potentially refounding them if they can kick nations in one update. Their tagging though is pretty pathetic and do not deserve this condemnation at all.

Guess I haven't been paying much attention lately, rip. Still no support tho
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:14 pm

Vengeance was spelled wrong. The region's correct name is The Augusto Pinochet Vengeance Force, but I must say that I didn't hear about them until now ether.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:24 pm

I wonder how long it'll be until they run out of room on that factbook of theirs...
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Postby Dark Socialism » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:33 pm

So communists and neoliberals are allowed to raid fascist and conservative regions but not vice versa?
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:57 pm

Dark Socialism wrote:So communists and neoliberals are allowed to raid fascist and conservative regions but not vice versa?

False equivalence. Raiding is raiding. It's just that one group is so bad as to be trounced by the other group so completely that they complain about it.

Their ideological identity is irrelevant.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:08 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Dark Socialism wrote:So communists and neoliberals are allowed to raid fascist and conservative regions but not vice versa?

False equivalence. Raiding is raiding. It's just that one group is so bad as to be trounced by the other group so completely that they complain about it.

Their ideological identity is irrelevant.

Emphasis mine. Apparently not. You've justified the raiding of lardyland due to who they had embassies with, and so has many on the security council. Resolutions priming regions for raiding even go through this council, explaining right in their text that this is because of a region's ideology; ideology seems to be far from irrelevant.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:17 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Apparently not. You've justified the raiding of lardyland due to who they had embassies with, and so has many on the security council. Resolutions priming regions for raiding even go through this council explaining right in their text that this is because of a region's ideology; ideology seems to be far from irrelevant.

I think you meant Spam. They were raided because of the name, and they annoyed one of our treatied allies by requesting embassies repeatedly and not taking a hint when they were repeatedly denied. Otherwise, you are woefully informed.

As for the fad of "offensive liberations", this is another matter entirely and has nothing to do with Spam. Fascists (and I assume this is who you really mean) can raid like anyone else; the question is, can they do it without complaining every time the raid gets thwarted by a "communist" defender force, aka The Grey Wardens or 10000 Islands? And can they also figure out why they and their ideology that they hold is universally despised by everyone but themselves on this game? I mean, just look at all of those resolutions that passed.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:22 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Apparently not. You've justified the raiding of lardyland due to who they had embassies with, and so has many on the security council. Resolutions priming regions for raiding even go through this council explaining right in their text that this is because of a region's ideology; ideology seems to be far from irrelevant.

I think you meant Spam. They were raided because of the name, and they annoyed one of our treatied allies by requesting embassies repeatedly and not taking a hint when they were repeatedly denied. Otherwise, you are woefully informed.

As for the fad of "offensive liberations", this is another matter entirely and has nothing to do with Spam. Fascists (and I assume this is who you really mean) can raid like anyone else; the question is, can they do it without complaining every time the raid gets thwarted by a "communist" defender force, aka The Grey Wardens or 10000 Islands? And can they also figure out why they and their ideology that they hold is universally despised by everyone but themselves on this game? I mean, just look at all of those resolutions that passed.

Just for the record, I'm not talking about Spam. Spam deserved to be raided. I'm just saying that I remember lardyland being raided a little more than two months ago for building embassies with fascists, and the occupiers accused the region and the inhabitants of being fascist themselves.

Edit: I think I just opened a can of worms. I think I'm going to stop this conversation before it turns into an argument.
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Back to the proposal.

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:49 pm

I really don't see how this is needed. They're lack of publicity seems to indicate a lack of doing anything of note, and they've failed to keep control of several of the regions they brag about attacking.
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Postby Armaros » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:29 am

1. who are these guys? I've never heard of them. And 2, why should we give them a badge? They're raiders, okay. Not important raiders since no one really knows them. They're fascists, ok, but it simply isn't important enough to condemn them for that. You'd only give them publicity.
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