by Lalop » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:26 am
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:37 am
by New Excalibus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:41 am
by ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:12 am
Caracasus wrote:Back when actual fascist regions were being targeted with offensive liberations we had dozens of very, very dedicated people insisting that they were not fascists bur rather stood strongly against use of liberations in thid way.
I am sure they will be along very shortly to make their points and fight against this proposal as venemantly as they did the others.
Right?
by Sefy the Great » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:17 am
A 12.7 civilization, according to this index.
by Sefy the Great » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:27 am
Lalop wrote:The reason I'm trying to liberate them is because a Liberation actually does something a Condemnation does nothing in game.
A 12.7 civilization, according to this index.
by Arcturus Novus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:29 am
Lalop wrote:The Communist Bloc founder has Ceased to exist
The Communist Bloc 'hereafter mentioned as the CB'
the CB practices Communism an ideology that has killed millions of innocent people.
the CB has shown that it refuses the right of all political thoughts to make a home on nation states.
SURPRISED
That the CB suports groups through the group 'NS left' such as Antifa,the Red Fleet
and the USSD
that invade small growing and vibrant Facist or Democratic regions for the sole reason of political disagreement.
CB's domination of the WA which has produced laws such as security council Resolution #245 when the CB along many other regions decided to liberate KAISERREICH for only political reasons.
a liberation would empower the center and right wing to fight back communism on the ground and in this August body.
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:31 am
OBSERVING
That the The Communist Bloc founder has Ceased to exist
REALIZING
That this opens up the The Communist Bloc 'hereafter mentioned as the CB' to invasion.
APALLED
That the CB practices Communism an ideology that has killed millions of innocent people.
FURIOUS
That the CB has shown that it refuses the right of all political thoughts to make a home on nation states.
SURPRISED
That the CB suports groups through the group 'NS left' such as Antifa,the Red Fleet and the USSD that invade small growing and vibrant Facist or Democratic regions for the sole reason of political disagreement.
ALARMED
Of the CB's domination of the WA which has produced laws such as security council Resolution #245 when the CB along many other regions decided to liberate KAISERREICH for only political reasons.
HOPING
That a liberation would empower the center and right wing to fight back communism on the ground and in this August body.
Herby Liberates The Communist Bloc.
by Cedoria » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:38 am
by Cedoria » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:43 am
Caracasus wrote:Back when actual fascist regions were being targeted with offensive liberations we had dozens of very, very dedicated people insisting that they were not fascists bur rather stood strongly against use of liberations in thid way.
I am sure they will be along very shortly to make their points and fight against this proposal as venemantly as they did the others.
Right?
by Kavagrad » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:45 am
Lalop wrote:That the CB suports groups through the group 'NS left' such as Antifa,the Red Fleet and the USSD that invade small growing and vibrant Facist or Democratic regions for the sole reason of political disagreement.
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:47 am
Cedoria wrote:Caracasus wrote:Back when actual fascist regions were being targeted with offensive liberations we had dozens of very, very dedicated people insisting that they were not fascists bur rather stood strongly against use of liberations in thid way.
I am sure they will be along very shortly to make their points and fight against this proposal as venemantly as they did the others.
Right?
Indeed? Where's Forestavia when they're needed to apply their standards to another group?
That's right, crickets. Funny that. I think we had precisely this discussion Caracasus:) Where are all those who had sympathy for the poor Fascists but claimed they didn't. When the shoe's on the other foot, I don't see them rushing to defend us on the same grounds.
by Cedoria » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:49 am
Caracasus wrote:Cedoria wrote:Indeed? Where's Forestavia when they're needed to apply their standards to another group?
That's right, crickets. Funny that. I think we had precisely this discussion Caracasus:) Where are all those who had sympathy for the poor Fascists but claimed they didn't. When the shoe's on the other foot, I don't see them rushing to defend us on the same grounds.
They have for some reason decided that the liberation of TCB is OK... Check out their RMB
https://www.nationstates.net/region=sc_ ... _taskforce
by Cedoria » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:51 am
Kavagrad wrote:Lalop wrote:That the CB suports groups through the group 'NS left' such as Antifa,the Red Fleet and the USSD that invade small growing and vibrant Facist or Democratic regions for the sole reason of political disagreement.
Well damn, you took my suggestions and somehow made this clause even less factually correct. Firstly, the organisation is named "NSLeft". Second, USSD is definitely not a member of NSLeft, so how you can relate their actions to TCB through NSLeft is beyond me.
Thirdly, and this is key, TCB is not a member of NSLeft.
Your repeated attempts at passing this ridiculous proposal are no longer as funny as they were. Don't get me wrong, it's still a complete joke, but it gets sadder with every passing attempt. I am THUNDERSTRUCK.
by Kuriko » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:24 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:59 am
Caracasus wrote:Back when actual fascist regions were being targeted with offensive liberations we had dozens of very, very dedicated people insisting that they were not fascists bur rather stood strongly against use of liberations in thid way.
I am sure they will be along very shortly to make their points and fight against this proposal as venemantly as they did the others.
Right?
by Arcturus Novus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:02 am
Cedoria wrote:Kavagrad wrote:
Well damn, you took my suggestions and somehow made this clause even less factually correct. Firstly, the organisation is named "NSLeft". Second, USSD is definitely not a member of NSLeft, so how you can relate their actions to TCB through NSLeft is beyond me.
Thirdly, and this is key, TCB is not a member of NSLeft.
Your repeated attempts at passing this ridiculous proposal are no longer as funny as they were. Don't get me wrong, it's still a complete joke, but it gets sadder with every passing attempt. I am THUNDERSTRUCK.
I concur with ma Delegate here. TCB has no ties with NSLeft beyond some embassies with individual regions, most of which were established fairly recently. Even our ties only recently were re-established after years out in the cold. They are also not friends to USSD, who are not friends with NSLeft.
Whoever wrote this proposal didn't do their homework. Or... any work at all, it would seem to me.
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:06 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Caracasus wrote:Back when actual fascist regions were being targeted with offensive liberations we had dozens of very, very dedicated people insisting that they were not fascists bur rather stood strongly against use of liberations in thid way.
I am sure they will be along very shortly to make their points and fight against this proposal as venemantly as they did the others.
Right?
Speaking of hypocrisy. I'm sure you'd support a better written proposal against a communist region, like the ones you supported against other authoritarian regions, right?
by Consular » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:21 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:25 am
Caracasus wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Speaking of hypocrisy. I'm sure you'd support a better written proposal against a communist region, like the ones you supported against other authoritarian regions, right?
Er, no? My issue with fascism is in part based on its authoritarian nature, but frankly that's just the crusty sprinklings on the massive turd cake that is fascism as an ideology.
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:26 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Caracasus wrote:
Er, no? My issue with fascism is in part based on its authoritarian nature, but frankly that's just the crusty sprinklings on the massive turd cake that is fascism as an ideology.
Nice response. Being hypocritical while previously accusing others of being hypocritical. I am principled, and stand against this resolution. The commie bloc does deserve to be condemned though.
by Consular » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:28 am
Caracasus wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Nice response. Being hypocritical while previously accusing others of being hypocritical. I am principled, and stand against this resolution. The commie bloc does deserve to be condemned though.
If I'm being hypocritical I am sure you've got actual evidence to back that up, rather than drawing on the usual "But muh gommunism!" false equivalence whenever fascism comes up.
by Armaros » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:28 am
Lalop wrote:SURPRISED
That the CB suports groups through the group 'NS left' such as Antifa,the Red Fleet and the USSD that invade small growing and vibrant Facist or Democratic regions for the sole reason of political disagreement.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:32 am
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