[DRAFT] Condemn Jocospor

[Isansland]

The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING that Jocospor is an authoritarian empire, founder of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, that recently got liberated by Security Council Resolution # 263.

NOTING that this resolution was proposed by Lord Dominator.

RECOGNIZING that Jocospor is now using SC to retaliate against Lord Dominator.

BELIEVING that such actions shouldn't be coming from the interested party.

HEREBY condemns Jocospor.

[Tinhampton]

Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: Emphatically against. Quid pro quo should not be a provision of Security Council business, and definitely not when it occurs on a meta scale.

OOC: Emphatically against. Quid pro quo should not be a provision of Security Council business, and definitely not when it occurs on a meta scale. Also, this is illegal for explicitly displaying a URL in the resolution text.

[Uan aa Boa]

No. Just no. Don't give Jocospor any more attention. Enough now.

Lord Dominator has voted for their own condemnation because they understand that there's not much distinction between a commendation and a condemnation, both being a badge of SC recognition. That was why Lord Dominator proposed a liberation rather than a condemnation of CCD. Jocospor appears not to understand that and maybe you don't either.

[Isansland]

Also, this is illegal for explicitly displaying a URL in the resolution text.

What should I use instead?

[Kuriko]

Just no, don't even try. Jocospor needs to disappear into the annals of history, and giving him more attention won't let that happen.

[Lord Dominator]

No

[Caracasus]

No. Has not done anything worth condemning or commending.

[Democratic Empire of Romania]

N.O. You are making A LOT OF FREE PUBLICITY for them. That's what you want ?

[Imperium Anglorum]

No.

[Wrapper]

I've marked the submitted version as illegal as this is a clear case of tit-for-tat.

[Isansland]

I've marked the submitted version as illegal as this is a clear case of tit-for-tat.

Fair enough. But isn't what Jocospor was doing is the same?

[Wrapper]

I've marked the submitted version as illegal as this is a clear case of tit-for-tat.

Fair enough. But isn't what Jocospor was doing is the same?

No. That proposal is way more substantive than this one.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Against, this will be viewed by Jocospor as an accomplishment.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Lord Dominator has voted for their own condemnation because they understand that there's not much distinction between a commendation and a condemnation, both being a badge of SC recognition. That was why Lord Dominator proposed a liberation rather than a condemnation of CCD. Jocospor appears not to understand that and maybe you don't either.

I don't know why everyone continues to think that a liberation is any less a badge of SC recognition. Frankly, the Confederation is quite happy with our shiny new badge.

[Glacikaldr]

Lord Dominator has voted for their own condemnation because they understand that there's not much distinction between a commendation and a condemnation, both being a badge of SC recognition. That was why Lord Dominator proposed a liberation rather than a condemnation of CCD. Jocospor appears not to understand that and maybe you don't either.

I don't know why everyone continues to think that a liberation is any less a badge of SC recognition. Frankly, the Confederation is quite happy with our shiny new badge.

It's not for you. It's for us to show new players and outside observers that you are outcasts of our community and how we all distance ourselves from you.

We're not giving you 50 badges like we want to give regions that are fun IC like TBH; we're giving you a mark of shame to show new players what we truly think of you (we want to 'liberate' you, if majority votes are anything to go by - which you most recently defended (see: open direct democracy) in a dispatch sent to everyone in the WA).

[Azurius]

I have been re-thinking and: Essentially, of course you are not going to deter hardcore fascists from him or the region, but you can hardly do anything against them now can you? However, it does more effectively deter neutral and center right people from becoming sucked up in their Vice in the first place. Which wouldn´t be a bad thing in my oppinion.

No. Has not done anything worth condemning or commending.

Oh come on you can´t be serious here. Destabilizing other regions, abusing the SC and now even going as far as to attack the security and integrity of all other regions? Failed attempt or not, they attempted an outright coup.

Come on you can´t be that blind. They clearly deserve condemnation. While you might not be for it you must at least admit that they belong to the few regions and nations that actually deserve one.

[Caracasus]

I have been re-thinking and: Essentially, of course you are not going to deter hardcore fascists from him or the region, but you can hardly do anything against them now can you? However, it does more effectively deter neutral and center right people from becoming sucked up in their Vice in the first place. Which wouldn´t be a bad thing in my oppinion.

No. Has not done anything worth condemning or commending.

Oh come on you can´t be serious here. Destabilizing other regions, abusing the SC and now even going as far as to attack the security and integrity of all other regions? Failed attempt or not, they attempted an outright coup.

Come on you can´t be that blind. They clearly deserve condemnation. While you might not be for it you must at least admit that they belong to the few regions and nations that actually deserve one.

Nah. Condemnations require hard work and contributions. The only thing Jocospor has abused is mum's credit card.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

I have been re-thinking and: Essentially, of course you are not going to deter hardcore fascists from him or the region, but you can hardly do anything against them now can you? However, it does more effectively deter neutral and center right people from becoming sucked up in their Vice in the first place. Which wouldn´t be a bad thing in my oppinion.

No. Has not done anything worth condemning or commending.

Oh come on you can´t be serious here. Destabilizing other regions, abusing the SC and now even going as far as to attack the security and integrity of all other regions? Failed attempt or not, they attempted an outright coup.

Come on you can´t be that blind. They clearly deserve condemnation. While you might not be for it you must at least admit that they belong to the few regions and nations that actually deserve one.

Oh boy, can I be next in line for a condemn badge as well?

Nah. Condemnations require hard work and contributions. The only thing Jocospor has abused is mum's credit card.

You can keep repeating that same line but it doesn't make it true...

[Azurius]

I have been re-thinking and: Essentially, of course you are not going to deter hardcore fascists from him or the region, but you can hardly do anything against them now can you? However, it does more effectively deter neutral and center right people from becoming sucked up in their Vice in the first place. Which wouldn´t be a bad thing in my oppinion.



Oh come on you can´t be serious here. Destabilizing other regions, abusing the SC and now even going as far as to attack the security and integrity of all other regions? Failed attempt or not, they attempted an outright coup.

Come on you can´t be that blind. They clearly deserve condemnation. While you might not be for it you must at least admit that they belong to the few regions and nations that actually deserve one.

Nah. Condemnations require hard work and contributions. The only thing Jocospor has abused is mum's credit card.

Lmao. My point still stands though. If active corruption and manipulation of the SC itself, plus even worse: The attempted try to do that with all regions.... If that is not worth a condemnation then seriously, what is?

Though I am starting to think you are just trolling like in the other thread lol.

[Caracasus]

Nah. Condemnations require hard work and contributions. The only thing Jocospor has abused is mum's credit card.

Lmao. My point still stands though. If active corruption and manipulation of the SC itself, plus even worse: The attempted try to do that with all regions.... If that is not worth a condemnation then seriously, what is?

Though I am starting to think you are just trolling like in the other thread lol.

Nah, it isn't really worthy because apart from anything else the attempt was laughable and simply won't work. I dunno about you, but I don't like giving prizes for trying hard.

[Glacikaldr]

Lmao. My point still stands though. If active corruption and manipulation of the SC itself, plus even worse: The attempted try to do that with all regions.... If that is not worth a condemnation then seriously, what is?

Though I am starting to think you are just trolling like in the other thread lol.

Nah, it isn't really worthy because apart from anything else the attempt was laughable and simply won't work. I dunno about you, but I don't like giving prizes for trying hard.

While you're hardly trying to have the WA do anything, I'm trying to work with our interregional organs to stand up for my region's sovereignty and our presumed majority values.

[Visionary Union]

Are we going to turn the SC into a children's playground, where one kid pushes the other, and the latter kid wants to take revenge? This is ridiculous. Abouselty no.

[Glacikaldr]

Are we going to turn the SC into a children's playground, where one kid pushes the other, and the latter kid wants to take revenge? This is ridiculous. Abouselty no.

Would you consider my Condemnation of Jocospor on the grounds of not respecting regional autonomy and ridiculously wasting their money on urging other nations to un-endorse their delegates?

[Uan aa Boa]

Frankly, the Confederation is quite happy with our shiny new badge.

Sure you are. That's why during the vote Jocospor was demanding action be taken against nations supporting you getting that shiny badge.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=32542886

As has been said, the SC uses liberations against fascist regions in the hope that they one day die off and because most people don't like fascism and want to make that clear. The action is against the ideology rather than any individual. Regarding this proposed condemnation of Jocospor, any parent will tell you that the best response to tantrums and attention seeking is to ignore them.

[Glacikaldr]

Frankly, the Confederation is quite happy with our shiny new badge.

Sure you are. That's why during the vote Jocospor was demanding action be taken against nations supporting you getting that shiny badge.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=32542886

As has been said, the SC uses liberations against fascist regions in the hope that they one day die off and because most people don't like fascism and want to make that clear. The action is against the ideology rather than any individual. Regarding this proposed condemnation of Jocospor, any parent will tell you that the best response to tantrums and attention seeking is to ignore them.

Amazingly said - minus the part where you ruled out me getting a proposal through