[DRAFT] Condemn New Western Atlantic

[Sword BJ]

ACKNOWLEDGING that the New Western Atlantic willingly had an embassy and diplomatic relations with the region of Force.

NOTING that one of their officials committed acts against Force such as recruiting, intervening in internal affairs and violating the principle of sovereignty, insulting Force officials and spreading lies in both regions .

FURTHER NOTING that the New Western Atlantic have been informed about these actions and didn't do anything to prevent it from happening.

REALIZING that after closing embassies, the New Western Atlantic decided against holding a fair trial of the one who committed these acts and went further by supporting them and protecting them from any form of punishment or discipline.

ACKNOWLEDGING that by supporting them, a region approves of behavior such as threatening allies, recruiting in an embassy region, insulting Foreign Diplomats (including government officials) and intervening in other regions' Internal Affairs.

AFFIRMING that the acts of the New Western Atlantic are proven and backed by evidence.

BELIEVING that Foreign Relations with other regions should be carried out with respect to both sovereignty and mutual trus.

HEREBY CONDEMNS the New Western Atlantic.

[Sargon Reman]

To be honest this isn't going to result in a Condemnation.

Just sever diplomatic ties with them.

[Sword BJ]

To be honest this isn't going to result in a Condemnation.

Just sever diplomatic ties with them.

We did as stated in the draft.
But what happened to us definitely going to happen to others unless if a proper resolution passed that sizes and frames those behaviors that damage the sovereignty principle and mutual trust between regions.
Regions with such behavior most hold responsibility for the benefit all of us .

[Thatcher Whitehall]

Against. Take your diplomatic woes elsewhere.

[Fauxia]

Whatever, not worth a condemnation

[Sword BJ]

Against. Take your diplomatic woes elsewhere.

It's not a diplomatic woes . Read before you write .
We already severd our ties with them and have no relations with them at all.
The goal is clear . Regions around NS should respect each other and SC should be against such behaviors.
If you consider this as " a diplomatic woes" it means that you and SC are ok with other regions ( to recruit inside embassy regions , send its officials and citizens to insult other diplomats and intervene in their business and protect them by any mean) ?

[Sword BJ]

What is the point of the Security Council if it doesn't protect International principles?

[Thatcher Whitehall]

We already severd our ties with them and have no relations with them at all.

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The goal is clear. Regions around NS should respect each other and SC should be against such behaviors.

If this was true, and noobish behavior/bad manners were punishable by a SC Condemnation, then what would prevent a player like yourself from passing condemnations against every single region or player that slighted them?

If you consider this as " a diplomatic woes" it means that you and SC are ok with other regions ( to recruit inside embassy regions, send its officials and citizens to insult other diplomats and intervene in their business and protect them by any mean) ?

It is not the place of the SC to condemn a nation or region on the basis of petty slights. Please provide substantive evidence that the NWA is worthy of a SC badge.

What is the point of the Security Council if it doesn't protect International principles?

Recognizing Nations/Regions and liberations. For more info about specific reasons to c/c please check out this thread. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=392800

[The Sakhalinsk Empire]

Against. Just sever ties, as everyone has said. Only condemn them if you know that they invaded other regions.

[RiderSyl]

It's not a diplomatic woes . Read before you write .

Oh yay, another rude author with a hapless proposal. Just what the SC was lacking!

[Sword BJ]

It's not a diplomatic woes . Read before you write .

Oh yay, another rude author with a hapless proposal. Just what the SC was lacking!

Rude? Exuse my words. I wasn't rude . I was explaining my point.
I mean you can give your opinions on my proposal without being rude !!

[Sword BJ]

Against. Just sever ties, as everyone has said. Only condemn them if you know that they invaded other regions.

So , condemnation only for invaders?

[Thatcher Whitehall]

So , condemnation only for invaders?

Please look under that link I gave you (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=392800) for all of the justifications used for past condemnations. "Unauthorized recruitment," " spreading lies," and "insulting Force officials" did not appear on that list.

[Sword BJ]

So , condemnation only for invaders?

Please look under that link I gave you (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=392800) for all of the justifications used for past condemnations. "Unauthorized recruitment," " spreading lies," and "insulting Force officials" did not appear on that list.

Thank you for your advice.
I posted my draft here so i can have some advices like this from experienced people in SC for the fact it was my first ever draft.
We will deal with the issue.
And yes we have a ton of evidences . We will provide the regions who wants to know and be careful with the evidences.

[Sword BJ]

Against. Take your diplomatic woes elsewhere.

It's not a diplomatic woes . Read before you write .
We already severd our ties with them and have no relations with them at all.
The goal is clear . Regions around NS should respect each other and SC should be against such behaviors.
If you consider this as " a diplomatic woes" it means that you and SC are ok with other regions ( to recruit inside embassy regions , send its officials and citizens to insult other diplomats and intervene in their business and protect them by any mean) ?

Sorry for my words if it was rude it wasn't my intentions at all.

[Thatcher Whitehall]

Sorry for my words if it was rude it wasn't my intentions at all.

Thank you, I accept your apology.

[Lord Dominator]

Not exactly condemnation worthy

[RiderSyl]

Sorry for my words if it was rude it wasn't my intentions at all.

Thank you for your humility. The SC needs more behavior like this

[ShrewLlamaLand]

For.

[RiderSyl]

For.

Running around being a contrarian in other proposals because your proposal is being annihilated is very immature of you.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

For.

Running around being a contrarian in other proposals because your proposal is being annihilated is very immature of you.

Just because I don't agree with the majority opinion of NationStates doesn't mean that I'm being a contrarian.

New Western Atlantic claims to be Anti-Fascist, Democratic, LGBT, Liberal, and pro-World Assembly. I think that justifies my position.

[RiderSyl]

You literally just now looked at the region's tags to justify it.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

You literally just now looked at the region's tags to justify it.

Believe me, I didn't, the region is among the largest of NationStates and I know exactly who they are. The fact is that I'm strongly for any condemnation of large, anti-fascist regions - this one is a perfect example.

[RiderSyl]

You copy-pasted all of their tags, selected the ones you didn't like, and added "pro-" to the World Assembly tag so it made sense in the context you were using. It's incredibly obvious.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

You copy-pasted all of their tags, selected the ones you didn't like, and added "pro-" to the World Assembly tag so it made sense in the context you were using. It's incredibly obvious.

Good observation, I used their tags to quickly justify my position. But I didn't form my opinion based on their tags, I've known exactly what their region stands for long before this proposal came around.