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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:37 am

Kuriko wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:The word "To" at the very beginning of the draft makes the rest of it nonsensical. Removing the word "to" puts it from the perspective of the SC rather than one submitting it to the SC.

Frattlesaurus Rex is of course one of the most infamous proponents of the defender philosophy in NS. His crimes are beyond counting, and usually earn a spot in my signature. More references to specific defender operations would better exemplify this.

To Fratty I simply say this: >_>!

I wish I could add more detail there, but unfortunately the TT conversion screwed up record retrieval from both the TRR forum and the FRA forum.

Can still take the word "To" out at the beginning though.
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:01 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Kuriko wrote:I wish I could add more detail there, but unfortunately the TT conversion screwed up record retrieval from both the TRR forum and the FRA forum.

Can still take the word "To" out at the beginning though.

Right, sorry ;-; I've been quite busy today.
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:30 am

Kuriko wrote:Well, I'm very well aware that Fratt is against a commendation. (Figure of speech on my end, look below for context) Yet I'm also aware that he's done so much in NS, and should be recognized for his accomplishments. So to that end, I spent almost a week interrogating friends and digging through TapaTalk infested forums to find everything I needed to draft this. While I'm aware that some things may be missing, I'm currently sitting at 4,827 characters out of the 5,000 character limit.

The esteemed Security Council of the World Assembly,

Aware that commendations are pieces of legislation meant to memorialize nations or regions for accomplishments and good deeds;

Believing that one such nation, by the name of Frattastan II, also known as Frattastan or Fratt, is highly deserving of recognition for their services not only to The Rejected Realms but to countless other regions throughout NationStates;
u only mentioned fra, San Francisco, and founderless regions

Thanking Frattastan II for the seven years they have dedicated to The Rejected Realms, where they have served multiple roles in the regional government and provided outstanding contributions to the community including:

  • A term of 399 days as World Assembly Delegate and Head of State between April 5, 2013 and May 9, 2014. In this capacity Frattastan II oversaw multiple changes to the regional constitution which expanded the powers of the head of state, as well as setting terms for regional officers and increasing the majority needed to appoint a nation to the Citizenship Council.

    who is head of state, how is expanding it good? Is setting terms even good, what if they love the officer?
  • Overseeing the signing of the XYZ Treaty between The Rejected Realms, Lazarus, Renegade Islands Alliance, and Mordor during their tenure as delegate. Frattastan II also oversaw the passage of the Regional Holidays Act, as well as the adoption of the regional flag that is still in use today all during their tenure as head of state in The Rejected Realms.
  • Serving from December 2017 to August 2018 as Officer of Foreign Affairs, where they oversaw the writing of at least three treaties between The Rejected Realms and various other regions. These treaties include: the Unicorn Star Accord between The Rejected Realms and The North Pacific to bring the two regions closer together; The January Accords, a treaty to bring The Rejected Realms, The South Pacific, and The East Pacific closer together; And The Rejected Realms - Forest Treaty of Harmony and Friendship between Forest and The Rejected Realms to bring the two regions closer together through cultural ties.
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Recognizing that although Frattastan II has contributed hugely to The Rejected Realms, they have also contributed to many other regions and inter-regional organizations through their inhabitants original home nation of Frattastan including:

  • One term as World Assembly Delegate of San Francisco, a refugee region of San Francisco Bay Area after it was raided and destroyed in 2007.
  • One term as the second sitting President of San Francisco Bay Area after it was recovered from raider hands by Sedgistan, as well as one term each of being the Secretary of Interior and Secretary of Defense for San Francisco Bay Area.
  • Many important positions within The FRA, also known as The Founderless Regions Alliance, where they served two terms as Arch Chancellor, eight terms as Chief of Defense, four terms as Minister of Intelligence, and one term as Vice Chancellor.
was frat a fenda or native? Is sedge a raider or native? Is San Francisco important?
Cognizant that Frattastan II, under both their original home nation of Frattastan and their current home nation of Frattastan II, have contributed to both the security of founderless regions and the cause of defending immensely over the 11 years of their existence by:

  • Creating and leading the 21st San Francisco Bay Area Army, which merged into the FRA Rangers when the region joined the FRA on April 22nd, 2012.
  • Rising to the rank of General within the FRA Rangers, the second highest achievable position within the military wing of The Founderless Regions Alliance, where they served with distinction and defended many regions from raiders.
  • Leading the military of The Rejected Realms, The Rejected Realms Army, for six years after the retirement of Sedgistan and Crazy Girl from the defending forces.
  • Helping to gather large numbers of defender forces for high stakes liberations, including over fifty defender nations to liberate Philippines on December 23rd, 2017 and over fifty defender nations to liberate Japan on September 17th, 2017.
i don't think it's high stakes
Noting that Frattastan II has been recognized for their achievements in defending by being awarded the Ananke award in 2012, the Defender of the Year award in 2013, the Sir Lans award in 2013, and the Lifetime Achievement Award in 2017;
the defender awards don't matter.
Hereby commends Frattastan II.


Edit 1: Fixed a typo
Edit 2: Changed "furtherly aware" to "noting"
Edit 3: Removed "To" on Mall's suggestion.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:32 am

The defender awards very much matter, or at least the serious awards for defenders

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Postby Tupelope » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:34 am

Lord Dominator wrote:The defender awards very much matter, or at least the serious awards for defenders

eh not really they only popularity contests, and most people only vote for the big names regardless

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Postby Kuriko » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:22 pm

To Tupe:

1. I mentioned FRA, San Francisco, and founderless regions that weren't previously founderless Tupe. As you're well aware, the FRA wasn't just one or two regions it was many.

2. I said "World Assembly Delegate and Head of State", which means the two positions are the same thing. Setting terms is a good thing, because that's what the officer election schedule came from. Are you saying TRR being democratic by holding officer elections, started under Fratt's term as delegate, is a bad thing?

3. Fratt was both a native and defender, and Sedge was a defender which is implied when I said "recovered from raider hands by Sedgistan". Unless you think one of the Arch Chancellors of the FRA, Sedgistan, was a raider? San Francisco was important because it was a refugee region of SFBA, where members of the region and even new members gathered after its destruction in 2007. As you well know, SFBA went on to found its own defender military and join the FRA.

4. Any region with active natives being under raider control is high stakes liberation, at least in my mind. And yes, the Defender Awards do matter because its where the defender community recognizes outstanding contributions by each other.

To everyone else:

Ill see if I can add more missions, although the only ones I have access to are Libcord records from the last year and a half.
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Postby Tupelope » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:17 pm

Kuriko wrote:To Tupe:

1. I mentioned FRA, San Francisco, and founderless regions that weren't previously founderless Tupe. As you're well aware, the FRA wasn't just one or two regions it was many.

2. I said "World Assembly Delegate and Head of State", which means the two positions are the same thing. Setting terms is a good thing, because that's what the officer election schedule came from. Are you saying TRR being democratic by holding officer elections, started under Fratt's term as delegate, is a bad thing?

3. Fratt was both a native and defender, and Sedge was a defender which is implied when I said "recovered from raider hands by Sedgistan". Unless you think one of the Arch Chancellors of the FRA, Sedgistan, was a raider? San Francisco was important because it was a refugee region of SFBA, where members of the region and even new members gathered after its destruction in 2007. As you well know, SFBA went on to found its own defender military and join the FRA.

4. Any region with active natives being under raider control is high stakes liberation, at least in my mind. And yes, the Defender Awards do matter because its where the defender community recognizes outstanding contributions by each other.

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? the fuck that gotta do bout fenda awards bein popularity contests
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:54 pm

Cut out one of the Fratt II hyperlinks in “cognizant”
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:37 pm

Fauxia wrote:Cut out one of the Fratt II hyperlinks in “cognizant”

Done, thanks Fauxia. I also got rid of the bolding in exchange for capitolization, opening up a bit more characters to add more operations into the last bit of that clause. Now I'm sitting at 4,996 characters out of 5,000, pushing the limit.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:57 pm

If you're looking to cut down on character count, you could cut out all the TRR mentions/links in the third part of Thanking except the first, and just say the name/who with/brief description with the associated regions.

You could also combine the Philippines & Japan ops, given the mention of 'over 50' for both into some kind of compound sentence like, "including over 50 nations for X op on [time] and Y op on [time2]. Also, 'fiftythree' needs a hyphen there.

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Postby Kuriko » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:10 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:If you're looking to cut down on character count, you could cut out all the TRR mentions/links in the third part of Thanking except the first, and just say the name/who with/brief description with the associated regions.

You could also combine the Philippines & Japan ops, given the mention of 'over 50' for both into some kind of compound sentence like, "including over 50 nations for X op on [time] and Y op on [time2]. Also, 'fiftythree' needs a hyphen there.

Thanks! For some reason my phone thinks it should be "fiftythree" instead of "Fifty-three".... The suggestion you made about Japan and Philippines cut it down to 4,972, but I don't think ill make the TRR suggested changes yet because I'm pretty sure I got all the stuff necessary. Unless you or others think its an overdone thing, in which case ill make that change too :)
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:13 pm

Kuriko wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:If you're looking to cut down on character count, you could cut out all the TRR mentions/links in the third part of Thanking except the first, and just say the name/who with/brief description with the associated regions.

You could also combine the Philippines & Japan ops, given the mention of 'over 50' for both into some kind of compound sentence like, "including over 50 nations for X op on [time] and Y op on [time2]. Also, 'fiftythree' needs a hyphen there.

Thanks! For some reason my phone thinks it should be "fiftythree" instead of "Fifty-three".... The suggestion you made about Japan and Philippines cut it down to 4,972, but I don't think ill make the TRR suggested changes yet because I'm pretty sure I got all the stuff necessary. Unless you or others think its an overdone thing, in which case ill make that change too :)

I personally think it's fine as-is, was just trying to think of character-cutting things if you needed them

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Postby Sargon Reman » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:20 pm

Good luck Kuriko.

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Postby Unibot III » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:35 am

One of the biggest decisions in the Frattastan government was also that the region became a defender region officially. TRR was a neutral region prior to Frattastan.

My memory says that that the Regional Tags Act was what introduced that change, but without the in-game index, I can't be arsed to confirm for you. (Why TRR moved away from the handy in-game index and resources, the same month their forum index and resources became utterly useless is an administrative mystery to me.)

I remember Frattastan's time as delegate as a time of regional renewal after a fairly lackluster term prior. He promoted this notion of counterculture which was unique to TRR. Institutions within TRR became more active, our endorsements grew. In fact, I don't think it's uncontroversial to say that if Frattastan's term hadn't been the success it was, the democratic project in TRR may have died.

It's sometimes hard to remember but TRR's democracy is much younger than other GCRs. We were only a constitutional liberal democracy by 2011, after Kandarin's departure. For years, we were a benevolent, liberal dictatorship of sorts - any constitutional projects were embryonic and aborted. Sedgistan and Crazygirl made democracy possible, but Sedge and Guy's stints as delegate were short and not prolific, Nai and Wham's terms were a bit of a mess; some could have made the argument that TRR wasn't suited for democracy - that the political 'contrarianism' of its Assembly made delegates lame-ducks, stalling their agendas and encouraging executive disillusionment, inactivity, and premature departures. Frattastan proved to its critics that TRR democracy could work, in part because he was a diplomat. He didn't pick fights with the Assembly. He tactfully worked within the margins of what was possible to expand our institutions and advance our foreign policy.
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Postby Kuriko » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:50 am

Unibot III wrote:One of the biggest decisions in the Frattastan government was also that the region became a defender region officially. TRR was a neutral region prior to Frattastan.

My memory says that that the Regional Tags Act was what introduced that change, but without the in-game index, I can't be arsed to confirm for you. (Why TRR moved away from the handy in-game index and resources, the same month their forum index and resources became utterly useless is an administrative mystery to me.)

I had that TRR became more defender under his term, but I didn't know it went to that extent :o

Edit: In my notes, I mean.
Edit 2: I used LD's idea of opening up a bit of space to add it, although now I think it looks funny without the other hyperlinks :(
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Postby Unibot III » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:04 am

A cheap character-saving measure is to use • versus [list][*]

It doesn't look as good, but it keeps your character count down. I'll be happy to do a read-through later and help you slice and dice to get you under the character limit if need be.
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Postby Kuriko » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:06 am

Unibot III wrote:A cheap character-saving measure is to use • versus [list][*]

It doesn't look as good, but it keeps your character count down. I'll be happy to do a read-through later and help you slice and dice to get you under the character limit if need be.

I'm within the character limit, but just by 4 characters. I could use that method if it turns out I need to add more :p
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:03 am

Kuriko wrote:
Unibot III wrote:One of the biggest decisions in the Frattastan government was also that the region became a defender region officially. TRR was a neutral region prior to Frattastan.

My memory says that that the Regional Tags Act was what introduced that change, but without the in-game index, I can't be arsed to confirm for you. (Why TRR moved away from the handy in-game index and resources, the same month their forum index and resources became utterly useless is an administrative mystery to me.)

I had that TRR became more defender under his term, but I didn't know it went to that extent :o

Edit: In my notes, I mean.
Edit 2: I used LD's idea of opening up a bit of space to add it, although now I think it looks funny without the other hyperlinks :(

My suggestion had actually been more to strip out the relevant TRR mentions entirely, and rewrite the treaty lines as more of "[name of treaty] with [region] to do [whatever]"

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Postby Kuriko » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:05 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Kuriko wrote:I had that TRR became more defender under his term, but I didn't know it went to that extent :o

Edit: In my notes, I mean.
Edit 2: I used LD's idea of opening up a bit of space to add it, although now I think it looks funny without the other hyperlinks :(

My suggestion had actually been more to strip out the relevant TRR mentions entirely, and rewrite the treaty lines as more of "[name of treaty] with [region] to do [whatever]"

Then it would get redundant due to the fact that all of them are to bring the regions that signed them closer to each other, wouldn't it?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:29 pm

Kuriko wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:My suggestion had actually been more to strip out the relevant TRR mentions entirely, and rewrite the treaty lines as more of "[name of treaty] with [region] to do [whatever]"

Then it would get redundant due to the fact that all of them are to bring the regions that signed them closer to each other, wouldn't it?

The you can save more space! :p
Seriously though, whatever you think is best :)

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Postby Kuriko » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:51 am

I'm thinking of submitting this at the end of the week, since there's nothing after the next proposal.
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Postby Armaros » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:10 am

support I guess. I see no reason not to support.
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Postby Kuriko » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:27 am

Apparently I was still 23 characters over, so I got rid of two of the SFBA hyperlinks to compensate. This is now submitted ^_^
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:28 am

Kuriko wrote:Apparently I was still 23 characters over, so I got rid of two of the SFBA hyperlinks to compensate. This is now submitted ^_^

I wish you luck for this! :)

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