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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:53 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:With regards to the proposal, again, I'm still very optimistic about our chances.

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Postby Prydania » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:56 pm

Again, the only drama left is whether or not the For side can cross the 2000 vote threshold.
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Postby Hemuraile » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:54 pm

Meh, this one ain't a liberation; it also isn't cheering on some attack on an ideology. Guess it passes that part.
Now for the reasons that made this proposal blow up in ShrewLlamaLand's (and the entire region's) face (fascism); against.
Even if you cut out the fascism argument with that GA#2 argument (which seems to refer to the NationState rather than the region), the proposal is weak.

Against.


ShrewLlamaLand wrote:With regards to the proposal, again, I'm still very optimistic about our chances.

This is so damn funny lmao
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Postby Democratic Empire of Romania » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:12 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true.

It is true, I'm confident it'll pass. Whether or not the resolution actually does pass is entirely different.

Democratic Empire of Romania wrote:You know, when you submit a commendation, think:
- What makes my region great ?
- Why do I like it ?
- Would others like it, too ? Why ?
Go and ask people what they think of your region before submitting to the WA. The best resolutions take hard work, of months.

Could you perhaps share your opinion? What do you think makes the Confederation great?

For the average player, CCD is a big region, but it's not like there are bigger. Ancient Lands is a puppet storage amd has over 1000 nations in it. Then, we have a active community, not quite big, frankly. The ban on democracies amd socialists is self-explanatory. That's why someone would wajnt to reside in your region. Nothing else. Nothing else......good.
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:36 pm

Congratulations your vote on your commendation is definitely doing very well

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Postby Jocospor » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:30 pm

Xoriet wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Oh, we get to come all the way back to this argument again. I'm glad you two speak on behalf of the entire World Assembly.

Let's just put it this way. You will never have your region Commended for as long as it stands for the fascist ideology. This vote margin is exactly what you have to look forward to every time you try. There is nothing Commendable about this region. You made enemies with the people whose votes add extra weight in the World Assembly votes. Your conduct has not given me any indications that the totality of your region is any more well-mannered or thoughtful than you are. Your founder is, if anything, behaving even more poorly on the forums. Turn your region into something respectable, and maybe you'll get a smiley face sticker as congratulations for having a region worth acknowledging. You sure aren't getting a Commendation.

Sorry, we're not sure how we're behaving (present tense) "more poorly on the forums."

The Confederation's Chancellor of the Supreme Judiciary has noble intentions, but in his passionate youthfulness I can see he's gotten a bit carried away. That said, everyone's gotten a bit carried away. At least no one from our camp (to the Imperial Empire's knowledge) has resorted to expressing themselves with expletives.

When we say we fully intend to redraft this proposal, we speak factually. When you sprout commentary about the future, you speak speculatively.

OOC: My region is respectable, as far as I'm concerned. Because, you know what, I respect it. I respect that I was able to build something out of nothing, to give hundreds of nations that you all would have turned away a home and a thriving community. And, in all honestly, I'll wager that's a lot harder to do than passing a few World Assembly resolutions. If my nation was PC enough and classified as a civil rights love fest then I'm sure I could easily have done it. But I'm not choosing to play the game like that. Nor is Shrewllamaland. We're not going to conform when we don't want to, just like you're not going to vote for our proposals when you don't want to. The difference is, however, that we don't berate you for not voting in our favour. You berate us for playing the game how we want.

Really, double standards aren't very cool. I haven't even read the rest of this forum yet but I'm sure I'm going to see plenty of it.
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Postby Jocospor » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:39 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I am confident that I will be a God-King tomorrow, but it doesn't make it true.

But what is true is that you're confident you'll be a God-King tomorrow. Whether or not you actually wake up as a God-King tomorrow is a completely different topic.

OOC: Although, if you did tomorrow join the Confederation, you could very easily become a God-King. Period.
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Postby Democratic Empire of Romania » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:41 pm

Jocospor wrote:
When we say we fully intend to redraft this proposal, we speak factually. When you sprout commentary about the future, you speak speculatively.

OOC: My region is very respectable. If my nation was PC enough and classified as a civil rights love fest then I'm sure I could easily have done it. But I'm not choosing to play the game like that. Nor is Shrewllamaland. We're not going to conform when we don't want to.

1. If the CCD is so respectable, why it keeps calling leftists and democracies 'degeneracy' and 'hypocrites' ? The Fascist regions which are known to NS didn't start targeting the rest of NS for being non-Fascist. You are actively seeking to end democracy and I may tell you that you may get the support of the huge GCRs, destroy the big UCRs, but the players wouldn't like you and support you. New regions would be there and you can't just end democracy in NationStates.
2. You may run your nation how you want. Your problem, and your region's, is that they treat non-Fascists and non-CCDs as inferiors. You get it ?If you talk to people with respect, they will respect you. That's what you don't.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:11 am

Hemuraile wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:With regards to the proposal, again, I'm still very optimistic about our chances.

This is so damn funny lmao

This is quotable material.
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Postby Sefy the Great » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:28 am

Jocospor wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:

But what is true is that you're confident you'll be a God-King tomorrow. Whether or not you actually wake up as a God-King tomorrow is a completely different topic.

OOC: Although, if you did tomorrow join the Confederation, you could very easily become a God-King. Period.

nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.
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Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:52 am

Sefy the Great wrote:
Jocospor wrote:OOC: Although, if you did tomorrow join the Confederation, you could very easily become a God-King. Period.

nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.

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Postby Sefy the Great » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:56 am

Azadistan-land of the free wrote:
Sefy the Great wrote:nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.

“That language is most unbecoming for the world assembly if you want to start a fight go to a speakeasy!

you forget...
everywhere is a speakeasy.
*smashes a beer bottle into someone's head*
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Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:58 am

Sefy the Great wrote:
Azadistan-land of the free wrote:“That language is most unbecoming for the world assembly if you want to start a fight go to a speakeasy!

you forget...
everywhere is a speakeasy.
*smashes a beer bottle into someone's head*


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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:58 am

Sefy the Great wrote:nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.

I don't think you know who you're replying to... I would suggest you check who those leaders are.

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Hemuraile wrote:This is so damn funny lmao

This is quotable material.

Yes, it'll be a great story to tell one day: how the great leaders of the Confederation managed to pass a commendation resolution against all odds.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:00 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Sefy the Great wrote:nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.

I don't think you know who you're replying to... I would suggest you check who those leaders are.

Jar Wattinree wrote:This is quotable material.

Yes, it'll be a great story to tell one day: how the great leaders of the Confederation managed to pass a commendation resolution against all odds.

Lmaooo, are you serious?

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Postby Sefy the Great » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:02 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Sefy the Great wrote:nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.

I don't think you know who you're replying to... I would suggest you check who those leaders are.

Jar Wattinree wrote:This is quotable material.

Yes, it'll be a great story to tell one day: how the great leaders of the Confederation managed to pass a commendation resolution against all odds.

i believe that i was replying to Jocospor who was in turn replying to ShrewLlamaLand, it says it in the dratted quotes ;) .
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:05 am

Sodoran Alesia wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I don't think you know who you're replying to... I would suggest you check who those leaders are.

Yes, it'll be a great story to tell one day: how the great leaders of the Confederation managed to pass a commendation resolution against all odds.

Lmaooo, are you serious?

Yes, it'll become one of the tales of the century, a tale of great triumph in the face of overwhelming opposition. Young children will be taught the story in primary school; it will become embedded in the Confederation's history as one of our proudest achievements.
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Postby Sefy the Great » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:05 am

Azadistan-land of the free wrote:
Sefy the Great wrote:you forget...
everywhere is a speakeasy.
*smashes a beer bottle into someone's head*


Professor Alexander Khan orderes the sisters guard to aim their weapons “any more rubbish out of you and these girls will kill you where you stand!”

*snaps fingers and the doors close as the entire bar stands up with weapons drawn*
apologies, but one does not threaten within The Ministry Of Public Decency. do you want us to give you a proper funeral or just leave you a small pool of blood for the Janitors to clean up?
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:07 am

Sefy the Great wrote:i believe that i was replying to Jocospor who was in turn replying to ShrewLlamaLand, it says it in the dratted quotes ;) .

Yes, but do you know who Jocospor is?

Given you mentioned being "afraid of your leaders" and claimed their comments were made in "loyalty to the higher ups", I'm going to guess you don't:
Sefy the Great wrote:nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:10 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Young children will be taught the story in primary school

Which is rather impressive, given that I'm not aware of any other aspect of NationStates being taught in primary school... :roll:
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Postby Sefy the Great » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:11 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Sefy the Great wrote:i believe that i was replying to Jocospor who was in turn replying to ShrewLlamaLand, it says it in the dratted quotes ;) .

Yes, but do you know who Jocospor is?

Given you mentioned being "afraid of your leaders" and claimed their comments were made in "loyalty to the higher ups", I'm going to guess you don't:
Sefy the Great wrote:nah mate, i'll stay here, where i can RP without being sunk down by posts always signed by "Hail the Confederation"
seriously, are you afraid of your leaders? afraid to think? afraid to say
"SIR! i believe that your head belongs in a toilet bowl rather then a point of regional office!"
or is it just a habit to proclaim your undying loyalty to the higher ups now? if so, that's just sad.

you want me to treat your "leader" as if he was one?
oh-hohhohoh, you naive droll. neither of you command respect, neither of you have anything to show that warrants respect. i'll look upon him the same way i would look upon a tramp - with disdain.
i was just using his comment to speak as if i was talking to your entire Damn region, you clod.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:11 am

Sefy the Great wrote:you want me to treat your "leader" as if he was one?
oh-hohhohoh, you naive droll. neither of you command respect, neither of you have anything to show that warrants respect. i'll look upon him the same way i would look upon a tramp - with disdain.
i was just using his comment to speak as if i was talking to your entire Damn region, you clod.

Oh, we're resorting to name calling now. Very classy.

Tinhampton wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Young children will be taught the story in primary school

Which is rather impressive, given that I'm not aware of any other aspect of NationStates being taught in primary school... :roll:

OOC: That was very clearly meant in context.
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Postby Jocospor » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:18 am

Sefy the Great wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Yes, but do you know who Jocospor is?

Given you mentioned being "afraid of your leaders" and claimed their comments were made in "loyalty to the higher ups", I'm going to guess you don't:

you want me to treat your "leader" as if he was one?
oh-hohhohoh, you naive droll. neither of you command respect, neither of you have anything to show that warrants respect. i'll look upon him the same way i would look upon a tramp - with disdain.
i was just using his comment to speak as if i was talking to your entire Damn region, you clod.

Hmmm. Doesn't command respect. Hmmm.

Also, best not go round calling people clods. We called someone an idiot and we got a forum ban. You wouldn't want a forum ban, would you?
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Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:34 am

Jocospor wrote:
Sefy the Great wrote:you want me to treat your "leader" as if he was one?
oh-hohhohoh, you naive droll. neither of you command respect, neither of you have anything to show that warrants respect. i'll look upon him the same way i would look upon a tramp - with disdain.
i was just using his comment to speak as if i was talking to your entire Damn region, you clod.

Hmmm. Doesn't command respect. Hmmm.

Also, best not go round calling people clods. We called someone an idiot and we got a forum ban. You wouldn't want a forum ban, would you?

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Postby Kuriko » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:35 am

This isn't an RP board, so RPers please take this to an appropriate forum or find the thread in the SC titled "The New 3WB". As to the rest, I'm pretty sure they're just trying to annoy us because they'll never pass a resolution after the stint they've pulled this week. At least we finally have some drama after months of inactivity :clap:

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