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Postby Feux » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Feux wrote:If it's really that note worthy, nothing would be stopping someone from commending her again.

That's not necessarily true, getting a single full commendation seems preferable to two half baked commendations. Not commenting on the substance of the argument though.

Preferable, yeah. There is so much being implied here that's just not even worth getting into. Implied this is half baked, implied the fake, future other proposal would be half baked. Nothing to discuss here.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:48 pm

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Mallorea and Riva wrote:That's not necessarily true, getting a single full commendation seems preferable to two half baked commendations. Not commenting on the substance of the argument though.

Preferable, yeah. There is so much being implied here that's just not even worth getting into. Implied this is half baked, implied the fake, future other proposal would be half baked. Nothing to discuss here.

Well there's no guarantee that anything done in the future will cumulate to the level of another commendation, which would be a shame because then this supposedly hugely commendable act would be left out in the cold simply because of impatience.
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Postby Consular » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:37 am

Eh I said nah in a very recent draft before this one so I'll be consistent and still say nah. While I like Imki I think it's still VERY premature.

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Postby Fauxia » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:47 pm

Anyway, her conduct in Lazarus is only commendable depending on what happens there.
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Postby Escade » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:39 pm

I feel very strongly that Imkiville deserves some recognition and this commendation due to many factors. There are players who impact the game and those around them in extraordinary ways. I'm a little worried by the number of players who don't think she is ready to be commended.

I suppose what time frame is being expected here? Like find out what happens in Lazarus could be a while since regions take time to grow and flourish and sometimes have hiccups.

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Postby Fauxia » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:53 pm

Escade wrote:I feel very strongly that Imkiville deserves some recognition and this commendation due to many factors. There are players who impact the game and those around them in extraordinary ways. I'm a little worried by the number of players who don't think she is ready to be commended.

I suppose what time frame is being expected here? Like find out what happens in Lazarus could be a while since regions take time to grow and flourish and sometimes have hiccups.

That’s kind of the point.

For Imki to be justified Laz has to grow. It’ll take as long as it must.
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Postby Consular » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:32 am

Escade wrote:I feel very strongly that Imkiville deserves some recognition and this commendation due to many factors. There are players who impact the game and those around them in extraordinary ways. I'm a little worried by the number of players who don't think she is ready to be commended.

I suppose what time frame is being expected here? Like find out what happens in Lazarus could be a while since regions take time to grow and flourish and sometimes have hiccups.

And what are those factors? "Due to many factors" is completely meaningless.

Let's look at what your draft has so far:
1. Imki decided to throw Wolf out of Lazarus.
2. Imki led SDSF for a while.

I think you've misunderstood us. It's not about waiting for the right amount of time. It's about Imki needing more time to do more things to be commendable.

Also while we're at it, your first clause is just exhausting to read.

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Postby Prydania » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:45 am

Wabbitslayah wrote:I'd like people reading this thread to promptly ignore Glen Rhodes. You either should support this or should think it's too early for this, not because some silly petty vendetta and biased opinion that Glen holds.

I don’t ignore stuff that happened because it’s inconvient for you, or anyone else.

If Imki did indeed declare herself “delegate for life”? That alone justifies opposition to this proposal.
If Lazerus remains stable and grows after she has stepped down? Then by all means. Commend then.
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Postby Hesskin Empire » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:04 am

Prydania wrote:
Wabbitslayah wrote:I'd like people reading this thread to promptly ignore Glen Rhodes. You either should support this or should think it's too early for this, not because some silly petty vendetta and biased opinion that Glen holds.

I don’t ignore stuff that happened because it’s inconvient for you, or anyone else.

If Imki did indeed declare herself “delegate for life”? That alone justifies opposition to this proposal.
If Lazerus remains stable and grows after she has stepped down? Then by all means. Commend then.

I have to disagree here, she made herself delegate for life with the new mandate, of which was worked on by many people, after the convention got nowhere but heated and toxic(at least that's what I heard, the council of natives didnt let me see), so she needed to do this.
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Postby Kuriko » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:43 am

Hesskin Empire wrote:
Prydania wrote:I don’t ignore stuff that happened because it’s inconvient for you, or anyone else.

If Imki did indeed declare herself “delegate for life”? That alone justifies opposition to this proposal.
If Lazerus remains stable and grows after she has stepped down? Then by all means. Commend then.

I have to disagree here, she made herself delegate for life with the new mandate, of which was worked on by many people, after the convention got nowhere but heated and toxic(at least that's what I heard, the council of natives didnt let me see), so she needed to do this.

I'm pretty sure Imki wrote Mandate 12 herself, although I could be wrong.
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Postby Consular » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:32 am

Hesskin Empire wrote:
Prydania wrote:I don’t ignore stuff that happened because it’s inconvient for you, or anyone else.

If Imki did indeed declare herself “delegate for life”? That alone justifies opposition to this proposal.
If Lazerus remains stable and grows after she has stepped down? Then by all means. Commend then.

I have to disagree here, she made herself delegate for life with the new mandate, of which was worked on by many people, after the convention got nowhere but heated and toxic(at least that's what I heard, the council of natives didnt let me see), so she needed to do this.

She is in total control of Lazarus. It's not like anyone was in a good position to say no.

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Postby Your Imaginary Friend » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:14 pm

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Postby Feux » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:22 pm

Prydania wrote:
Wabbitslayah wrote:I'd like people reading this thread to promptly ignore Glen Rhodes. You either should support this or should think it's too early for this, not because some silly petty vendetta and biased opinion that Glen holds.

I don’t ignore stuff that happened because it’s inconvient for you, or anyone else.

If Imki did indeed declare herself “delegate for life”? That alone justifies opposition to this proposal.
If Lazerus remains stable and grows after she has stepped down? Then by all means. Commend then.

From a historical standpoint, the SC has had no issue commending dictators for being dictators.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:54 am

I'm still against. She's great but is not worthy of a commendation mentioning Lazarus yet. By this logic, we could commend any Delegate of a formerly chaotic region. "Oh, you restored balance? Here's your shiny badge" is not a good approach. I do appreciate Imki, but Lazarus has not done anything yet besides appointments.

Her art would be commendable, but not her Delegacy of Lazarus yet.
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