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[On hold] Repeal "Liberate The East Pacific"

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[On hold] Repeal "Liberate The East Pacific"

Postby Ransium » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:14 pm

The World Assembly,

Aware that the Security Council often does work that has a symbolic impact as much as a practical one;

Acknowledging, therefore, that the self-proclaimed symbolic nature of Security Council Resolution #247 'Liberate The East Pacific' is not grounds for repeal on its own;

However, convinced that even the symbolic impact of SC #247 is misplaced;

Noting that SC #247 deals almost exclusively with the actions of Queen Yuno and questioning the desirability of the precedent of the SC punishing a region for the actions which really are attributable to just a single nation;

Questioning the judgment of SC #247 being liberation when, given the arguments of the resolution, a condemnation would be a suitable way for the Security Council to express its displeasure with the region, if truly justified;

Knowing that the delegations of member nations have differing opinions about what liberation resolutions role should be, but convinced few feel it should be a substitute for a condemnation;

Wishing for the various precedents created by #SC 247 to be unequivocally rejected by this august body and now and into the future;

Hereby repeals World Assembly Security Council Resolution #247 'Liberate The East Pacific'
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:20 pm

No. We oppose this resolution, and will work tirelessly to defeat it.
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Postby New Min » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:23 pm

"Would you propose a condemnation of Queen Yuno as a replacement, Mr Ambassador?
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:24 pm

New Min wrote:"Would you propose a condemnation of Queen Yuno as a replacement, Mr Ambassador?

We don't need to replace. We should condemn TEP as well. And commend them while we're at it.
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Postby Consular » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:20 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
New Min wrote:"Would you propose a condemnation of Queen Yuno as a replacement, Mr Ambassador?

We don't need to replace. We should condemn TEP as well. And commend them while we're at it.

Urgh can we not

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Postby M A Atherton » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:24 pm

For the record, the Liberations of KAISERREICH and NE were passed immediately before Liberate TEP (which, unlike the other two, was supposed to be humourous). The sentiment I* can agree with, but not the resolution, and I will oppose this one if it does come to vote.

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Postby Fauxia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:21 pm

No. Liberate TEP is a work of art.
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Postby Ransium » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:39 pm

Thinking more about this, I shouldn’t have posted it when I did. My focus is on my GA proposal and after that I’ll probably want a break for awhile. I’m putting this on hold for now.

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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:41 pm

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Postby Flanderlion » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:52 pm

It'll fail unless TEP wants it gone.
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Postby Fauxia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:07 pm

Flanderlion wrote:It'll fail unless TEP wants it gone.

Or if Yuno retires, probably
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:12 pm

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Postby Cantanasia » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:03 pm

Ransium wrote:
The World Assembly,

Aware that the Security Council often does work that has a symbolic impact as much as a practical one;

Acknowledging, therefore, that the self-proclaimed symbolic nature of Security Council Resolution #247 'Liberate The East Pacific' is not grounds for repeal on its own;

However, convinced that even the symbolic impact of SC #247 is misplaced;

Noting that SC #247 deals almost exclusively with the actions of Queen Yuno and questioning the desirability of the precedent of the SC punishing a region for the actions which really are attributable to just a single nation;

Questioning the judgment of SC #247 being liberation when, given the arguments of the resolution, a condemnation would be a suitable way for the Security Council to express its displeasure with the region, if truly justified;

Knowing that the delegations of member nations have differing opinions about what liberation resolutions role should be, but convinced few feel it should be a substitute for a condemnation;

Wishing for the various precedents created by #SC 247 to be unequivocally rejected by this august body and now and into the future;

Hereby repeals World Assembly Security Council Resolution #247 'Liberate The East Pacific'

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Postby Feux » Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:54 pm

Ransium wrote:Thinking more about this, I shouldn’t have posted it when I did. My focus is on my GA proposal and after that I’ll probably want a break for awhile. I’m putting this on hold for now.

If you can get TEP's delegate support, that's all you'll need to pass this.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:13 pm

Feux wrote:
Ransium wrote:Thinking more about this, I shouldn’t have posted it when I did. My focus is on my GA proposal and after that I’ll probably want a break for awhile. I’m putting this on hold for now.

If you can get TEP's delegate support, that's all you'll need to pass this.

And, that will never happen.
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Postby Feux » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:27 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Feux wrote:If you can get TEP's delegate support, that's all you'll need to pass this.

And, that will never happen.

I would love to see a democracy keep its word on something like that. :p
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Postby Hrtzkavia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:52 pm

I mean liberating the east pacific would be good for the SC's image, i say Aye. Liberate the East Pacific

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Postby Armaros » Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:23 am

Hrtzkavia wrote:I mean liberating the east pacific would be good for the SC's image, i say Aye. Liberate the East Pacific

...you know it's a repeal right? The East Pacific is liberated.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:29 am

To steal and seriously misuse the good old Defender standby line on Repeals:

"If the natives don't want a Repeal, we shouldn't be voting on one"
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:36 am

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Postby Hrtzkavia » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:51 am

Armaros wrote:
Hrtzkavia wrote:I mean liberating the east pacific would be good for the SC's image, i say Aye. Liberate the East Pacific

...you know it's a repeal right? The East Pacific is liberated.

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