[DRAFT] Commend Equinox

[Sargon Reman]

The resolution seems a bit to wordy.

Just because Falconias was Founder doesn't mean anything.

[Wabbitslayah]

Against.

The region was founded by Falconias it deserves to be condemned for that alone.

Asy has it now, so it's been freed from Falc's vile grasp!

[Tyrehennia]

Alright, depending on how everything goes, I may make some minor edits (syntax, punctuation, nothing dramatic) but this looks ready for submission. I'd appreciate anyone checking for rules violations, but our next challenge is making quorum (if anyone has any advice on that).

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Alright, depending on how everything goes, I may make some minor edits (syntax, punctuation, nothing dramatic) but this looks ready for submission. I'd appreciate anyone checking for rules violations, but our next challenge is making quorum (if anyone has any advice on that).

Looks good. Just does social media and communications platform violate rules? Is it outside the NS world?

To make it quorom just make a statement why a delegate should support it and telegram all the delegates.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Rereading this and yeah seems legal

Good

[Benevolent Thomas]

Against.

The region was founded by Falconias it deserves to be condemned for that alone.

Is there a legitimate reason for that opinion, or is that just a personal grudge you bear?

It is a old meme. From a time before sharing images on social media was the peak of human culture.

Like other great figures of folklore, Falconias never existed as an individual. They are a combination of stories and myths that eventually created the legend of Falconias The Great, The infiltrator of Europeia and Liberator of the FRA.

[Alustrian]

It certainly had its share of dramatic personalities, but Equinox at its peak was still one of the most interesting communities that I have seen in NS.

[Indo States]

WA FINAL DRAFT
Indo States Supports Commend Equinox.

[Tyrehennia]

Thank you all for your overwhelming support and your comments (truly something I did not expect as a beginner at writing resolutions). As part of Equinox's traditional overly dramatic flourish, the proposal is going out tomorrow, on the occasion of the Autumnal Equinox. Please be aware, delegates, to endorse this proposal if you so choose.

Much thanks.
Viva Equinox, Nunc et Usque in Aeternum.

DECLARATION OF SUBMISSION, FINAL AND BINDING.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Thank you all for your overwhelming support and your comments (truly something I did not expect as a beginner at writing resolutions). As part of Equinox's traditional overly dramatic flourish, the proposal is going out tomorrow, on the occasion of the Autumnal Equinox. Please be aware, delegates, to endorse this proposal if you so choose.

Much thanks.
Viva Equinox, Nunc et Usque in Aeternum.

DECLARATION OF SUBMISSION, FINAL AND BINDING.

Guide
Be sure to telegram every delegate

[Tyrehennia]

Proposal submitted! Make sure to endorse, and I’ll be writing up campaign telegrams.

Thanks to all.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Well good luck

[Wrapper]

a raiding and role-playing guild

I'm on the fence here as to whether this is an R4 violation. Normally, any mention of RPing violates R4(c).

[Nau States]

I'm for!
((OOC: Only because I was their ambassador from Pacifica for a week. Still, cool place, nice people, in-depth RP.))

[Tyrehennia]

a raiding and role-playing guild

I'm on the fence here as to whether this is an R4 violation. Normally, any mention of RPing violates R4(c).

Jakker did declare it legal, but I'd also say that "role-play" in this case refers to an off-site practice (not on NS) in which national representatives engage, and much of it is not pertinent to role play as nations but more just role play in general, not relevant to NS-related goings ons. Consider it an international sport, if you will.

Tell me what you think; I just don't want to see another dramatic late pull-out like the last one in the WA.

I'm for!
((OOC: Only because I was their ambassador from Pacifica for a week. Still, cool place, nice people, in-depth RP.))

Thanks!

By the way, to any delegates or personal aides who may be watching, and I can't stress this enough, VOTE VOTE VOTE!

[Ransium]

I think it’s illegal. R4c I don’t see how the role play mention here doesn’t acknowledge this is a game.

[Ligmaistan]

Hello, just wanted to say that I fully support this proposal. I just want to warn you about a few times where you did mention the outside communication. I am worried that this might fall under Rule 4c, and since I support this, I wanted to let you know that others may find that a reason to not bring this to the SC's vote, or to not vote for this. Whether or not this does break Rule 4c is up to interpretation, but it would be one less thing to worry about if you either took that small part out, or changed the wording a bit more than you already have.

Thanks,
The Rogue Nation Of Ligmaistan

[Tyrehennia]

Sigh, I do remember asking for feedback regarding rules violations a few times prior, but oh well. If it doesn’t make quorum, I’ll reword it. If it does, well...

Although role play does again refer to an activity where national delegates “meet” outside of NS (on a regional forum) and where they do not represent their actual nation’s, but if it bothers people, I can fix it.

We’ll see where this ends up.

[Tyrehennia]

Concerns are noted, but further review of 4c has prompted me to conclude that the role play reference I included, which refers to a situation outside of NS (the game mentioned) whereby delegates from their representative “nations” so to speak engage in role playing that is not at all relevant to NS, is not illegal.

(The exact role play I was referring to is on an offsite forum where the role plays don’t involve characters as nations they represent, so I’m trying to argue that this would be more of an international activity or sport rather than actually NS nations representing themselves diplomatically).

Nevertheless, I understand the wording was somewhat vague and easily misconstrued. I’d appreciate some latitude, at least until proposal voting ends.

[Wabbitslayah]

It certainly had its share of dramatic personalities, but Equinox at its peak was still one of the most interesting communities that I have seen in NS.

Like moi?

[Tyrehennia]

Ugh, I need a legal consultant for this kind of thing.

[Drop Your Pants]

Like other great figures of folklore, Falconias never existed as an individual. They are a combination of stories and myths that eventually created the legend of Falconias The Great, The infiltrator of Europeia and Liberator of the FRA.

Don't forget the diplomacy of a brick.

[Wrapper]

Jakker did declare it legal, but I'd also say that "role-play" in this case refers to an off-site practice (not on NS) in which national representatives engage, and much of it is not pertinent to role play as nations but more just role play in general, not relevant to NS-related goings ons. Consider it an international sport, if you will.

Concerns are noted, but further review of 4c has prompted me to conclude that the role play reference I included, which refers to a situation outside of NS (the game mentioned) whereby delegates from their representative “nations” so to speak engage in role playing that is not at all relevant to NS, is not illegal.

(The exact role play I was referring to is on an offsite forum where the role plays don’t involve characters as nations they represent, so I’m trying to argue that this would be more of an international activity or sport rather than actually NS nations representing themselves diplomatically).

I'm sorry but I can't buy that argument. For the other guilds you mention (defender, military, raiding), you use acceptable terms that deal with nations, not representatives of those nations. I can't see making a special exception for the way this is worded, so I have to agree with Ransium that this is illegal. For what you're describing, I think you can do it without mentioning illegal phrases like roleplay or gameplay.

You're not on track to make quorum anyway, so I suggest withdrawing the proposal, rewording this part, and seeing if there's any other changes you can make to improve the proposal on the whole.

[Tyrehennia]

Very well. Proposal withdrawn, and further discussions will be made on how to improve it with the community. Expect an improved draft shortly.

[Tyrehennia]

As part of the procedure henceforth, this bill will be initially revised to simply expunge the part about role playing. Although I wish these concerns were raised earlier when I asked for legality checks, now is as good a time as any to proofread. On a more optimistic note, I’m happy to say that myself and the ground team in Equinox have been discussing improved diplomatic ways to spread the word about the proposal, instead of our last minute scramble. As for quorum, I will say that the telegramming that did occur was more uncoordinated than I’d have liked, and that unfortunately Equinox as a community right now is too small to launch any sort of major interregional communiques.

Let us not get too wrapped up in semantics to overlook the fact that objectively, the Equinox community has been most deserving of recognition and probably needs it now more than ever. It has been taken as a point of regard that Equinox has not sought commendation prior despite having skilled and able writers, due in part to its belief in a region that transcends the NS world and the hysteria that may pockmark it (factions, fascists, fabrications, and fulminations). Its ideals of enthusiasm, compassion, and levity will be sorely missed (for now), but hopefully not forgotten.

Removing one phrase is a bit minor; I think the rest of the proposal is solid if a bit wordy; such is life when one does not spend hours casting stern gaze over WA chambers in passionate, if overeager rumination.

My heartfelt thanks go out to those who supported the resolution, and who will continue to as we progress.