[DISCUSSION] Dealing with Fascist/Nazi Regions

[West Leas Oros]

You never said you didn’t, I assumed you didn’t think so.

Assuming the beliefs of the opposition is bad praxis, fyi.

Yeah. It’s hard to not assume it when it happens so often. Not to mention my opinion of you makes me believe that.

Almost everyone I’ve heard defending your position tends to claim special pleading,

Examples?

TRF sympathizers, revcoms, tankies and other authoritarian communists.

and the SC has yet to take action against revcoms or fundamentalists, some even get commended. Looking at you TRF.

Is TRF even explicitly revolutionary, though?

If you don’t mind being around stupid propaganda, you should check their website, it’s full of revolutionary stuff. They claim that opposition is equivalent to supporting reactionary evil.

[Syberis]

When did I ever say revolutionary communists and theocrats shouldn't be condemned, hm?

You never said you didn’t, I assumed you didn’t think so. Almost everyone I’ve heard defending your position tends to claim special pleading, and the SC has yet to take action against revcoms or fundamentalists, some even get commended. Looking at you TRF.

Okay, dude. Like... write a condemnation for TRF. I swear that every post you write on the WASC or NSGP forums includes snide references to them. I don't even particularly like TRF and you're beginning to annoy me.

We get it, you don't like them. Instead of derailing actual conversation about how to deal with these two specific groups brought up, create your own discussion on the issues you have. That way, your issues with them can be addressed while we deal with the other problem of Nazi and Fascist regions.

[Cekoviu]

Assuming the beliefs of the opposition is bad praxis, fyi.

Yeah. It’s hard to not assume it when it happens so often. Not to mention my opinion of you makes me believe that.

Nice to know you like me so much.

Examples?

TRF sympathizers, revcoms, tankies and other authoritarian communists.

I mean actual quotes/links, not names of people you don't like.

If you don’t mind being around stupid propaganda, you should check their website, it’s full of revolutionary stuff. They claim that opposition is equivalent to supporting reactionary evil.

K. But like Syberis said, this thread isn't about TRF.

[West Leas Oros]

The main reason I mention TRF is because they are among the worst offenders in this case, but that by no means makes it them exclusively. Many of their allies, such as North Korea, The Internationale, MT Army; they are also notorious for this. They even have an infernal pact they call NS Left, despite the fact that all this does is lump leftists on NS into a cultist, merciless revolution that most leftists want no part of.

[Kurnugia]

The main reason I mention TRF is because they are among the worst offenders in this case, but that by no means makes it them exclusively. Many of their allies, such as North Korea, The Internationale, MT Army; they are also notorious for this. They even have an infernal pact they call NS Left, despite the fact that all this does is lump leftists on NS into a cultist, merciless revolution that most leftists want no part of.

MT Army is not part of the NSLeft. As a matter of fact, they are anti fascists and nothing more.

[Lord Dominator]

The main reason I mention TRF is because they are among the worst offenders in this case, but that by no means makes it them exclusively. Many of their allies, such as North Korea, The Internationale, MT Army; they are also notorious for this. They even have an infernal pact they call NS Left, despite the fact that all this does is lump leftists on NS into a cultist, merciless revolution that most leftists want no part of.

Then do what Syberis suggested and write up your own condemnations/commend repeals/liberations of those regions

[West Leas Oros]

The main reason I mention TRF is because they are among the worst offenders in this case, but that by no means makes it them exclusively. Many of their allies, such as North Korea, The Internationale, MT Army; they are also notorious for this. They even have an infernal pact they call NS Left, despite the fact that all this does is lump leftists on NS into a cultist, merciless revolution that most leftists want no part of.

Then do what Syberis suggested and write up your own condemnations/commend repeals/liberations of those regions

I would, but I’m absolute sh*t at writing SC Resolutions

[Isvataan]

Honestly don't do anything

Yes there are nations with the idealogoy and yes we can disagree with them ( I certainly do )

However, as far as I can tell, nearly all have just been minding their own buisness within their own regions. Now where is the trouble of expressing one's self.

I remember that years ago, an average person didn't care what you believe in (the person can disagree or agree with them, as long the belief doesn't bother/force block their daily life, people would ignore them) and want to do their own thing.

Nowdays, if you say or do something that certain someone doesn't like and feel offended, that someone will do everything in their power to ruin your day (or even worse, your life).

Its very disappointing to see that this pc and sjw stuff is spreading and its unfortunate that over half of delegates here are align with that (as seen with the overkill vote with Kasiereich (which is just a region that its consists German empire and german history with little to none harboring of Nazi nations)

Along with that, claiming to "fight" a fascist/Nazi and stating "We're making the place safe from Nazism" is ridiculous. They aren't "fighting" Nazis, they're only harassing the common person who just disagrees (even from a minor disagreement) Really its just stolen valor from soldiers and individuals who died fighting REAL fascists all those years ago. And when ACTUAL Nazis do show up, many won't fight them anymore because of sjws and pc keep crying wolf.

Its just them trying to convince the greater whole of society to accept violence against "dissidents" who stand in the way of the social order that they seek to establish (Honestly, it sounds like people who are claiming to fight the Nazis are acting like Nazis themselves)

As such these recent liberations (by one who shall not be named and should be forgotten in a ditch) are anti-individuality and as mentioned, do nothing when dealing with these false liberations.

[Feux]

Threads like this make it worse.

[Wrothic Blackhawk Armada]

I don't really have an opinion on the matter, I just think that if we're going after fascist regions and questioning people for whatever symbolism is on their account, we should be going after the Communists as well. They're everywhere. I created this account as a puppet, and I got no less than 3 recruitment telegrams from "pan-leftists" and "socialists" and none from neo-nazis. Say what you will about neo-nazis, but at least they keep to themselves.

Liberation of KS is a mistake, still. It's a meme community about WWI. Let them meme in peace.

[Cedoria]

When did I ever say revolutionary communists and theocrats shouldn't be condemned, hm?

You never said you didn’t, I assumed you didn’t think so. Almost everyone I’ve heard defending your position tends to claim special pleading, and the SC has yet to take action against revcoms or fundamentalists, some even get commended. Looking at you TRF.

I mean, people who complain about TRF being commended when their enemies are condemned don't realise that TRF was commended for it's actions, not it's ideology.

Which is what so many who object to the condemnation of Fascist regions supposedly advocate for. If you want to commend and condemn based on actions, TRF has done plenty which is commend-worthy.