[DEFEATED] Repeal: Liberate Kaiserreich

[RiderSyl]

Then condemn them. Don't liberate them from themselves against their will. Condemn them if they have infringed on others.

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

[Estonland]

Then condemn them. Don't liberate them from themselves against their will. Condemn them if they have infringed on others.

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

And how has the Liberation worked in this case?

[Kurnugia]

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

And how has the Liberation worked in this case?

It's a long-term investment

[Cute Puppies]

Then condemn them. Don't liberate them from themselves against their will. Condemn them if they have infringed on others.

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

"These 'neoliberations' are a mockery to the integrity of the Security Council and ultimately destroy the meaning and significance of a proper liberation! If we continue to substitute liberations for condemnations, we'll soon see the value of the liberation cheapened and considered a trophy to invader and malevolent regions and nations like condemnations." barks the short-tempered Mr Fluffers.

[Kurnugia]

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

"These 'neoliberations' are a mockery to the integrity of the Security Council and ultimately destroy the meaning and significance of a proper liberation! If we continue to substitute liberations for condemnations, we'll soon see the value of the liberation cheapened and considered a trophy to invader and malevolent regions and nations like condemnations." barks the short-tempered Mr Fluffers.

Suuuuure. You really think that a resolution, that affects game mechanics, can be cheapened? If anything condemnations are meaningless.

[Cute Puppies]

"These 'neoliberations' are a mockery to the integrity of the Security Council and ultimately destroy the meaning and significance of a proper liberation! If we continue to substitute liberations for condemnations, we'll soon see the value of the liberation cheapened and considered a trophy to invader and malevolent regions and nations like condemnations." barks the short-tempered Mr Fluffers.

Suuuuure. You really think that a resolution, that affects game mechanics, can be cheapened? If anything condemnations are meaningless.

Yup

[Razzle Dazzle]

Suuuuure. You really think that a resolution, that affects game mechanics, can be cheapened? If anything condemnations are meaningless.

Yup

Do you think that someone would refuse to liberate a raided region because "the value of the liberation" has been cheapened?

[Cute Puppies]

Yup

Do you think that someone would refuse to liberate a raided region because "the value of the liberation" has been cheapened?

No, but I believe if we continue to use liberations for reasons it was not originally intended to be used for like La Navasse's self-proclaimed "neoliberations," the original significance and symbolic meaning of a liberation will, like condemnations nowadays, be over-inflated and lost.

[Lenlyvit]

Do you think that someone would refuse to liberate a raided region because "the value of the liberation" has been cheapened?

No, but I believe if we continue to use liberations for reasons it was not originally intended to be used for like La Navasse's self-proclaimed "neoliberations," the original significance and symbolic meaning of a liberation will, like condemnations nowadays, be over-inflated and lost.

Very highly unlikely that liberations will lose their meaning.

[Blackledge]

Something tells me you have no idea what Kaiserreich really is, and are simply labeling them as Nazis or fascists because it benefits you politically or socially.

It's a type of virtue signaling, which usually appears to be an activity that springs from ignorance.

For.

[West Leas Oros]

You know, this whole “liberate KR” thing would be a moot point if we just tried to facilitate change within KR to reform itself. Unfortunately, too many bloodthirsty radicals may disagree with me, but to them, the only option is violence.

[Lenlyvit]

You know, this whole “liberate KR” thing would be a moot point if we just tried to facilitate change within KR to reform itself. Unfortunately, too many bloodthirsty radicals may disagree with me, but to them, the only option is violence.

People have been trying for years, it isn't working. Have you actually read any of the last 5 threads talking about KREICH?

[West Leas Oros]

You know, this whole “liberate KR” thing would be a moot point if we just tried to facilitate change within KR to reform itself. Unfortunately, too many bloodthirsty radicals may disagree with me, but to them, the only option is violence.

People have been trying for years, it isn't working. Have you actually read any of the last 5 threads talking about KREICH?

Clearly, this is caused by incompetence within KR’s Administration, when they aren’t actively feeding it. KR needs to make a serious effort for change, or else it will become a target for aforementioned bloody radicals.

[Lenlyvit]

People have been trying for years, it isn't working. Have you actually read any of the last 5 threads talking about KREICH?

Clearly, this is caused by incompetence within KR’s Administration, when they aren’t actively feeding it. KR needs to make a serious effort for change, or else it will become a target for aforementioned bloody radicals.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I ain't no bloody radical friend. And yes, they need to make serious changes which include the expulsion of everyone in the region who say the things being said in their discord as well as the removal of the Nazis propaganda they use.

[West Leas Oros]

Clearly, this is caused by incompetence within KR’s Administration, when they aren’t actively feeding it. KR needs to make a serious effort for change, or else it will become a target for aforementioned bloody radicals.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I ain't no bloody radical friend. And yes, they need to make serious changes which include the expulsion of everyone in the region who say the things being said in their discord as well as the removal of the Nazis propaganda they use.

Well you aren’t a radical, but I bet the people who actually plan to raid it are. My advice to KR would be, listen to the rest of the world. You can’t continue on like this, or else you will be killed off by an angry mob. You may not want it, but sometimes you have to do what you need to in order to survive.

[Langor Empire]

Then condemn them. Don't liberate them from themselves against their will. Condemn them if they have infringed on others.

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

Why does the World Assembly - a body that consists mostly of ignorant randomers - claim the right to punish someone?

You know, this whole “liberate KR” thing would be a moot point if we just tried to facilitate change within KR to reform itself. Unfortunately, too many bloodthirsty radicals may disagree with me, but to them, the only option is violence.

People have been trying for years, it isn't working. Have you actually read any of the last 5 threads talking about KREICH?

Why is it so hard to just, you know, leave them alone?

[Glacikaldr]

Many defenders will be forced into an uncomfortable position with this framing of 'liberation', but the definition for liberation implied in this repeal is even more damaging.

It is for this reason that I will be voting against. I welcome you to make another repeal without this bias if this one fails.

[Algermaine]

I figured that this would have passed by miles. It seems that La Navasse is getting somewhere.

[Lord Dominator]

I figured that this would have passed by miles. It seems that La Navasse is getting somewhere.

Navasse had nothing to do with the resolution being repealed

[Prydania]

Something tells me you have no idea what Kaiserreich really is, and are simply labeling them as Nazis or fascists because it benefits you politically or socially.

It's a type of virtue signaling, which usually appears to be an activity that springs from ignorance.

For.

I remember when the behaviour the alt-right calls "virtue signalling" was simply called "being a decent person."

[Algermaine]

I figured that this would have passed by miles. It seems that La Navasse is getting somewhere.

Navasse had nothing to do with the resolution being repealed

They don't?

[Prydania]

Navasse had nothing to do with the resolution being repealed

They don't?

No.

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Lenlyvit wrote Liberate KAISERREICH. Basic knowledge of the target resolution might be useful when arguing for its repeal.

[Lord Dominator]

Navasse had nothing to do with the resolution being repealed

They don't?

Nope. Navasse took inspiration from it in their badge-hunting, but the resolution this proposes to repeal was written by someone with a better intentions (sans towards KR), and far more respected.

[Apostate]

Then condemn them. Don't liberate them from themselves against their will. Condemn them if they have infringed on others.

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

Lenny’s poached lib from la navasse, who pioneered the trial with a kaiserreich holding....the canary in the coal mine.

Some folks lack courage to stride out on their own. And some folks used Nazi regions in days gone by to support their former regions, and now are sponsored by memes to see what happens.

It’s all silly and rhetorical. I am glad kaiserreich is such a threat to the NS world to need so much attention! Our roleplay, politics and such are quite the global threat. And don’t give me the “hate speech”bit....so circular....yellow circles even. “I hate hate speech so let’s stop people from hating” My Lord. What terrible, awful logic.

Just remember, ask not for whom the bell tolls....

[Lord Dominator]

Condemnations are just shiny badges. Thanks to Lenlyvit's innovation, Liberations have proven to be the punishments that Condemnations have failed to be.

Lenny’s poached lib from la navasse, who pioneered the trial with a kaiserreich holding....the canary in the coal mine.

Some folks lack courage to stride out on their own. And some folks used Nazi regions in days gone by to support their former regions, and now are sponsored by memes to see what happens.

It’s all silly and rhetorical. I am glad kaiserreich is such a threat to the NS world to need so much attention! Our roleplay, politics and such are quite the global threat. And don’t give me the “hate speech”bit....so circular....yellow circles even. “I hate hate speech so let’s stop people from hating” My Lord. What terrible, awful logic.

Just remember, ask not for whom the bell tolls....

False once again. Lenlyvit received no inspiration from Navasse, and merely inspired the poor imitations the latter is now so known for.