[Abandoned] Liberate Union of Confederate Regions

[The House of Petain]

Another classic example of the sheer abuse of the liberation feature by the SC.

UCR has an active founder, no password in place and isn't under any form of occupation.... how is this even right?

[Arkhall]

I get the liberate Nazi Europe because they're the biggest Nazi region, and Liberate KAISERREICH cause they're always denying their fascist/Nazi behavior, but unless a region is actually founderless I don't think we need to keep liberating regions with negative reputations.

A negative reputation, I'll add, that was both fictional and hyperbolic when described by Patria.

[Arkhall]

Another classic example of the sheer abuse of the liberation feature by the SC.

UCR has an active founder, no password in place and isn't under any form of occupation.... how is this even right?

It isn't right, and I want to say that it's not going to pass, but humans are batshit crazy, illogical even. This could pass on pure sentiment alone, with big words and falsified information taking precedence over hard facts and unbiased decisions.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Another classic example of the sheer abuse of the liberation feature by the SC.

UCR has an active founder, no password in place and isn't under any form of occupation.... how is this even right?

It isn't right, and I want to say that it's not going to pass, but humans are batshit crazy, illogical even. This could pass on pure sentiment alone, with big words and falsified information taking precedence over hard facts and unbiased decisions.

Id add the Lemming Effect and the Superdelegates to that list.

[La Navasse]

It isn't right, and I want to say that it's not going to pass, but humans are batshit crazy, illogical even. This could pass on pure sentiment alone, with big words and falsified information taking precedence over hard facts and unbiased decisions.

Id add the Lemming Effect and the Superdelegates to that list.

I will get this to pass. I'm afraid that UoCR is an even larger offender then FGGR, THRB, TIO, or SCUT, only barely below KR.

[Kaboomlandia]

Id add the Lemming Effect and the Superdelegates to that list.

I will get this to pass. I'm afraid that UoCR is an even larger offender then FGGR, THRB, TIO, or SCUT, only barely below KR.

It's nice that you think that. There still is no point liberating this region because it doesn't have a password, has a founder, and has a non-executive delegate.

In fact, what you're trying to do is worse than doing nothing. If you pass a liberation resolution, you're actually going to decrease the chances of the founder CTE'ing because they'll be more vigilant.

And even if the founder does somehow CTE, UCR is completely unraidable because they currently have 161 endorsements on the delegate.

Just please stop, this is not going to pass and if by some miracle it does, the liberation will do jack squat.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Id add the Lemming Effect and the Superdelegates to that list.

I will get this to pass. I'm afraid that UoCR is an even larger offender then FGGR, THRB, TIO, or SCUT, only barely below KR.

You haven't seen the WA's Current Vote on the condemn, or your once again tarnished reputation.

[La Navasse]

I will get this to pass. I'm afraid that UoCR is an even larger offender then FGGR, THRB, TIO, or SCUT, only barely below KR.

You haven't seen the WA's Current Vote on the condemn, or your once again tarnished reputation.

Condemns are badges of honor now, are they not? That's why we have Neoliberations.

Furthermore, I don't see my reputation being "once again tarnished" - I don't believe being against fascists tarnishes in any way, nor does calling out FGGR and THRB as the fascists that they truly are bad either.

Then again, you deny that Liberate KR had any evidence, so maybe the tarnish is on you...

I refuse to attempt any debate with someone who has deemed Liberate KAISERREICH "useless and a waste of time."

And that is hard evidence, of there being no evidence.

Lib KReich lacked hard proof too.

Score one to me!

[Kaboomlandia]

You haven't seen the WA's Current Vote on the condemn, or your once again tarnished reputation.

Condemns are badges of honor now, are they not? That's why we have Neoliberations.

Condemnations are badges of honour in certain cases, not all. Usually for certain condemnations, like those against someone who couped a region or something (see SC #174 and #177), they're meant to be used for their original purpose as written. Your attempts at offensive liberation target regions that won't even feel them and actually give that region greater publicity. Nobody is going to try and follow up this liberation. Nobody is nuts enough to try and raid this region. It's impossible.

[La Navasse]

Condemns are badges of honor now, are they not? That's why we have Neoliberations.

Condemnations are badges of honour in certain cases, not all. Usually for certain condemnations, like those against someone who couped a region or something (see SC #174 and #177), they're meant to be used for their original purpose as written. Your attempts at offensive liberation target regions that won't even feel them and actually give that region greater publicity. Nobody is going to try and follow up this liberation. Nobody is nuts enough to try and raid this region. It's impossible.

You can't bring a positive connotation to the constant threat of immediate invasion once the Founder becomes nonexistent. You can to a literally consequence-lacking Condemnation.

[Kaboomlandia]

Condemnations are badges of honour in certain cases, not all. Usually for certain condemnations, like those against someone who couped a region or something (see SC #174 and #177), they're meant to be used for their original purpose as written. Your attempts at offensive liberation target regions that won't even feel them and actually give that region greater publicity. Nobody is going to try and follow up this liberation. Nobody is nuts enough to try and raid this region. It's impossible.

You can't bring a positive connotation to the constant threat of immediate invasion once the Founder becomes nonexistent. You can to a literally consequence-lacking Condemnation.

This region is never getting invaded in its current state, even without the founder. Ever. The delegate has 161 endorsements.

[La Navasse]

You can't bring a positive connotation to the constant threat of immediate invasion once the Founder becomes nonexistent. You can to a literally consequence-lacking Condemnation.

This region is never getting invaded in its current state, even without the founder. Ever. The delegate has 161 endorsements.

I'd say that given evidence of fascist, and possibly Nazi, elements, of UoCR, there would be a high likelihood of invasion regardless.

[Kaboomlandia]

This region is never getting invaded in its current state, even without the founder. Ever. The delegate has 161 endorsements.

I'd say that given evidence of fascist, and possibly Nazi, elements, of UoCR, there would be a high likelihood of invasion regardless.

And I'd say that given evidence of the largest ever single jump being 84 updaters at once, there is a 0% likelihood of invasion.

[North Saitama]

Just knock it off, already, La Navasse. The fact that there are already 3 drafts of "Condemn La Navasse", for your so-called "neoliberations" (a.k.a. attacks on natives for ideological reasons), should clue you in that we are tired of your abuse of the SC.

[La Navasse]

Just knock it off, already, La Navasse. The fact that there are already 3 drafts of "Condemn La Navasse", for your so-called "neoliberations" (a.k.a. attacks on natives for ideological reasons), should clue you in that we are tired of your abuse of the SC.

I don't see that in the voting results of the last couple of resolutions I've passed.

[Kaboomlandia]

Just knock it off, already, La Navasse. The fact that there are already 3 drafts of "Condemn La Navasse", for your so-called "neoliberations" (a.k.a. attacks on natives for ideological reasons), should clue you in that we are tired of your abuse of the SC.

I don't see that in the voting results of the last couple of resolutions I've passed.

A monkey with a typewriter could have passed Liberate Nazi Europa or Liberate Femdom Empire. Don't try to use those as a sign of what will happen with these ones.

[The House of Petain]

Resolutions like these are excessive and dangerous and thanks to them are showing the NS world the ugliness of SC resolutions overall.

[Lavan Tiri]

Jesus tits, opposed.

[Borovan6]

This resolution sounds idiotic.

[Langor Empire]

You haven't seen the WA's Current Vote on the condemn, or your once again tarnished reputation.

Condemns are badges of honor now, are they not? That's why we have Neoliberations.

Furthermore, I don't see my reputation being "once again tarnished" - I don't believe being against fascists tarnishes in any way, nor does calling out FGGR and THRB as the fascists that they truly are bad either.

Then again, you deny that Liberate KR had any evidence, so maybe the tarnish is on you...

And that is hard evidence, of there being no evidence.

Lib KReich lacked hard proof too.

Score one to me!

The liberation badge does look nicer than the condemnation one... And it's fashion :3

[Arkhall]

I will get this to pass. I'm afraid that UoCR is an even larger offender then FGGR, THRB, TIO, or SCUT, only barely below KR.

It's nice that you think that. There still is no point liberating this region because it doesn't have a password, has a founder, and has a non-executive delegate.

In fact, what you're trying to do is worse than doing nothing. If you pass a liberation resolution, you're actually going to decrease the chances of the founder CTE'ing because they'll be more vigilant.

And even if the founder does somehow CTE, UCR is completely unraidable because they currently have 161 endorsements on the delegate.

Just please stop, this is not going to pass and if by some miracle it does, the liberation will do jack squat.

We have a set line of successors in the UCR if Langor needs to go inactive. (This is Krualstiken, by the way.) We're set for years to come, and even then, I completely fail to see how we've done anything large enough of note that's *negative* to warrant any kind of punishment, regardless of if it would do anything or not.

The only offense, as far as I can tell, is that we've got furries. (A fucking lot of them), and we've got weebs. We're an odd mix of "oh hecc the UCR is liberal" and "oh hey they've got one nazi (Though lets be honest, Stahlrahm is usually meming) so the entire region is a nazi region and collaborator" We're not fascist in the same way that an oligarchy disguising itself as a monarchy isn't fascist. Corruption doesn't mean fascism, ei?

People like La Navaseserersrs take a look at our region, and badges being their only goal, they seek to find the most minute flaws and blow them out of proportion. Patria did this when he tried to condemn us, La Naveresesrs will do this when trying to 'liberate' us. They completely fail to outline the positives. We've got a learning and mentoring system for new RPers, we have a job system, we have one of the most active and detailed roleplay environments out there, and we still continue to grow and change to adapt to whats needed. I fail to see how raiding less than ten regions, however enthusiastic at the time we were, warrants a "warmongering" status. (Let's be honest, that was a while ago, and we stopped because it wasn't worth the effort. RP is more profitable when it comes to activity and spreading influence.) Our current "military" is just a mutual defense pact, and a joke.

This region is never getting invaded in its current state, even without the founder. Ever. The delegate has 161 endorsements.

I'd say that given evidence of fascist, and possibly Nazi, elements, of UoCR, there would be a high likelihood of invasion regardless.

Are you talking about Stahlrahm? He's the only nazi there, and I can't tell if he's serious or not. He doesn't try to push his beliefs on anyone, try to enforce anything within the government, nor influence policy. He's there, and he RPs, that's it.

If you're referring to the government, we're an oligarchy disguised as a monarchy, ei? Just because you don't know our inner circles doesn't make it fascist. Langors decisions are discussed heavily beforehand (Usually.) Other than Stahl or the ""Monarchy"", I fail to see any indication of fascist elements. We have strict rules on citizenship, is that it, perhaps? We have stricter rules on who can be in the government. Golly, is a lack of citizen participation in the government fascism? No, we've had too many coups in the past, and we are negating any chance of any such thing happening.

Your claims are falsified and hyperbole.

Your intentions are fame and greed.

Your train is losing steam, and when it does, you will be forgotten. Badges mean nothing if you're nothing without them. They're the only thing bringing you to relevance right now.

Cease your activity, try to regain your dignity, and start over. You're clearly disliked in the community, yet you continue to start actions and movements that draw more negative opinions and sentiment.

[Arkhall]

What's the bet that, because I'm defending the UCR, La Navaraerasrs will go after my RP region? Another "Nazi collaborator". We have Stahl in my region too, are we going to be condemned and liberated as 'nazis'? I run a clear dictatorship, but that holds no relevance when compared to the fact that it's just an RP region, same as the UCR. Only difference is: we're not as big. That's the *only* difference between us and the UCR. We don't have an oligarchy disguised as a monarchy, but we do have an oligarchy.

I've had plenty of association with regions such as KR and Nazi Europa. I've hung out with the Black Hawks (The old one, back when raiding was more of a meme, not the one after new management that had a desire to raid and destroy, rather than put silly tags in the WFE). I hung out with the gals in FE. Does any of this hold relevance in the slightest? At ALL? Do the people I hang out with define me and the endeavors I seek out? That's the logic you're holding, La Navaneresere. Someone does not become a stripper by hanging out at strip clubs, someone does not become an arms dealer by knowing one. Someone knowing someone or hanging out with someone does not mean that they are collaborators, nor does it mean that they will convert or change their views by any means.

Your constant "liberations" and condemnations have lead the WA to forget this simple fact. Your hyperbole and blatant lies deface your own name, and the name of the SC. You turn into mockery what was once a moderately balanced and fun part of the game. "Ah, we can practice campaigning, debating, and observe the voting process." turned into "We can destroy and deface those that we don't like."

[Arkhall]

Also, nobody calls it UoCR. It's the UCR, we call ourselves the UCR, stop using UoCR.

[The Stalker]

Also, nobody calls it UoCR. It's the UCR, we call ourselves the UCR, stop using UoCR.

Yea, but to most of gameplay UCR means User Created Region, every time I see UCR that's what I think.

[The House of Petain]

This could pass on pure sentiment alone, with big words and falsified information taking precedence over hard facts and unbiased decisions.

Just like most SC resolutions.