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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:13 pm

This is about to make quorum. Obviously against given it's a blatant self-commendation.
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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:01 pm

Oh look, it is a complete self commend....

4/17/2018, 3:25:57 PM EDT: Greater Cofrienolls was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

4/17/2018, 3:25:49 PM EDT: ARA Commander was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_eternal_order

4/17/2018, 4:38:58 PM EDT: Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was admitted to the World Assembly.

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Postby Alkasia » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:30 pm

As Archimedes once said: "Give me a proposal long enough and an incessant amount of campaign telegrams on which to place it, and I shall move the World (Assembly)."

Or something like that anyway.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:34 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=displ ... ?start=625

Starting here, this entire RMB is a walking red flag surrounded by warning sirens...I have no idea if these RMB messages are serious, but that may not have been the only WA multi involved.
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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:38 pm

I'm not going to vote in favour of a self-commendation. If you really deserve commendation, you can absolutely get someone else to write it for you.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:21 pm

I started a un-approve campaign about three or four hours ago, seeing at least 11 approvals drop. Hopefully it'll fall out of quorum. I telegrammed all the approving delegates and I'm also telegramming new approvals too.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:58 pm

This guy does not deserve to be commended.

1. No one has ever heard of him.
2. He hasn't done anything that matters.
3. He's trying to get a self-commendation.


Please, remove your approvals. If it does come to a vote, vote AGAINST.
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Postby Edrarin » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:56 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:I started a un-approve campaign about three or four hours ago, seeing at least 11 approvals drop. Hopefully it'll fall out of quorum. I telegrammed all the approving delegates and I'm also telegramming new approvals too.

May I see a copy of the un-approve campaign?
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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Edrarin wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:I started a un-approve campaign about three or four hours ago, seeing at least 11 approvals drop. Hopefully it'll fall out of quorum. I telegrammed all the approving delegates and I'm also telegramming new approvals too.

May I see a copy of the un-approve campaign?

Greetings to you, delegate of the World Assembly. I come to you today to ask you to withdraw your approval from Commend Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar. The first time this was submitted about a week ago by Greater Cofrienolls, it was submitted through illegal means. Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar bribed Greater Cofrienolls to submit a commendation that they had written for themselves, giving Greater Cofrienolls 3,000 telegram stamps. They were already warned by the mods, but make no mistake this is written by Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar and not by Greater Cofrienolls. Please, withdraw your approval from this self-commendation.

Thank you for your time,
Lenlyvit

Link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523722410

SC Thread with conversation from the first submission: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=440607
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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:47 pm

After the authors deletion, I have taken the added step of doing a delegate wide telegram to every delegate.

Greetings to you, delegates of the World Assembly. I come to you today to ask you to withdraw your approval from Commend Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar if you are approving it, and to not approve it if you have yet to see it. The first time this was submitted about a week ago by Greater Cofrienolls, it was submitted through illegal means. Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar bribed Greater Cofrienolls to submit a commendation that they had written for themselves, giving Greater Cofrienolls 3,000 telegram stamps. They were already warned by the mods, but make no mistake this is written by Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar and not by Greater Cofrienolls. Please, withdraw your approval from this self-commendation. At this time, Greater Cofrienolls was both ejected from the WA and deleted by the moderators for site rule violations. https://www.nationstates.net/page=boney ... ofrienolls

4/17/2018, 3:25:57 PM EDT: Greater Cofrienolls was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

4/17/2018, 3:25:49 PM EDT: ARA Commander was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

Disgraced: This name was soiled by a former nation.


Greater Cofrienolls Former Nation
Population: 165 million
Founded: 37 days ago
Ceased to exist: 81 minutes ago
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Dispatches: 3

Thank you for your time,
Lenlyvit

Link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1523722410

SC Thread with conversation from the first submission: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=440607
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Postby The Transhuman Combine » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:00 pm

Unfortunately, I initially approved this proposal. After looking through the guy's history, there seems to be absolutely nothing of note about him. All of the regions he was involved in were absolutely miniscule (seriously, my region has more members than do any of the ones he was active in), he has one forum post, and it's a technical support request, and he hasn't made any proposals that I could find. This guy is clearly not involved in the community very intensively, let alone some sort of famous counter-raider. I regret giving this proposal the benefit of the doubt, and have withdrawn my approval permanently. This guy is a fraud.
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Postby Edrarin » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:07 pm

Thank you, Lenlyvit
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:25 am

Lenlyvit wrote:4/17/2018, 3:25:57 PM EDT: Greater Cofrienolls was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

On that basis the proposal has been discarded.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:49 am

Wrapper wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:4/17/2018, 3:25:57 PM EDT: Greater Cofrienolls was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

On that basis the proposal has been discarded.

Thanks Wrapper. I filed a GHR about it last night, but never heard back.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:15 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Wrapper wrote:On that basis the proposal has been discarded.

Thanks Wrapper. I filed a GHR about it last night, but never heard back.


We have won! They have been brought to justice! :)
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:32 am

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:We have won! They have been brought to justice! :)

Such gloating is not kosher, so, don't.

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High Greater Cofrienolls
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Postby High Greater Cofrienolls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:40 pm

I realize now, after reading this forum that several 7th and 8th Graders like my region and ourself clearly do not understand nationstates. I am sorry, I am quitting NationStates. I thought this community was welcoming, friendly, I was wrong. I have been playing for ~30 days, well done. This game, as this forum indicates, is clearly a life and death matter.

I live in Britain, and Nagatar is an Indian living in the United States. My friend Lorcan , whom used to live in India, only knows him that way as Nagatar and him once lived in Chennai together, though Nagatar himself doesn't know that Lorcan is still playing NS. I am up at 12:00 AM trying to correct this misunderstanding. How much more drastic does this get?
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:07 pm

It conspires that Coffee was badge-hunting all that time, admitting that "I wanted to pass a resolution". That went well... didn't it?
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:41 pm

It's not a life-and-death issue.

The proposal was heavily opposed because everyone can easily see that the nominee admitted himself that he wrote it, which is basically a no-no in the SC. Also, publicly admitting on the RMB that the submitter tried to bribe someone to submit their self-written commendation got this proposal removed the first time.

The submitter of the proposal was later ejected for being a WA multi and then deleted for reasons I don't know. All of this was routine moderator work. I'm seeing a lot of RMB messages calling this a "mistake", which I am not inclined to believe that it is.

The game is a pretty cool place, just beware that everybody can read your RMB and we can see that the "explanation" telegram isn't true.
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In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

"Your legitimacy, Kaboom, has melted away in my eyes. I couldn't have believed that only a shadow of your once brilliant WA career remains."

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High Greater Cofrienolls
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Postby High Greater Cofrienolls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:29 pm

Like I said. I am phasing myself off of NationStates in the Next Week, along with several others in my region. You will not have to worry about us henceforth.

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Postby High Greater Cofrienolls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:31 pm

Tinhampton wrote:It conspires that Coffee was badge-hunting all that time, admitting that "I wanted to pass a resolution". That went well... didn't it?

Well. I wanted to pass a resolution, my friend said that we could commend Nagatar (See our RMB for Lorcan's connection to Nagatar) as a type of apology, so it worked both ways. Didn't quite finish working, however.
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:33 pm

I don’t think anybody’s worrying too much about you folks.

If you want to give up the game, fine, but we all made mistakes in our early days. I once wrote a proposal that earned a critique that went something like, “This makes me want to throw up in my mouth.” You live, you learn; beats dying over something silly.

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Postby High Greater Cofrienolls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:49 pm

Wrapper wrote:I don’t think anybody’s worrying too much about you folks.

If you want to give up the game, fine, but we all made mistakes in our early days. I once wrote a proposal that earned a critique that went something like, “This makes me want to throw up in my mouth.” You live, you learn; beats dying over something silly.

Well, this entire forum may be impossible to delete, and as long as my very name, which only now I regret publicizing by telegram, is damaged, thru this incident, and a telegram sent to every delegate in the WA, I don't believe returning to the game is my best course of action.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:53 pm

You can come back under a new nation, and also we're pretty forgiving of mistakes for new players. Usually.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

"Your legitimacy, Kaboom, has melted away in my eyes. I couldn't have believed that only a shadow of your once brilliant WA career remains."

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Postby High Greater Cofrienolls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:34 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:You can come back under a new nation, and also we're pretty forgiving of mistakes for new players. Usually.

Thank you, I will come back anonymously. I hope I fall under this "usually".

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