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[WITHDRAWN] Liberate World Assembly

Postby Anonymous Nation » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:25 pm

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LIBERATE WORLD ASSEMBLY
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.
Category: Liberation | Nominee (region): World Assembly | Proposed by: Anonymous Nation

Recalling that on March 30, 2012 the region World Assembly was founded with the World Factbook Entry message indicating more was “coming soon”,

Asserting after the passage of six years, nothing is in fact soon coming,

Believing the region of the World Assembly could play a special place within the NationStates community, as a home for those passionate about global politics without a desire for other regions,

Betting whatever unknown events could transpire after the Liberation of the World Assembly, the region of will provide more utility for the NationStates community Liberated than locked away,

Imagining a democratic, free, and peaceful World Assembly with an elected delegate and liberal or no endorsement caps,

The World Assembly hereby Liberates World Assembly with the hope for a better future.


Proposed on April 1, 2018. Proposal Link

Happy tenth birthday to the NationStates World Assembly!
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Postby Android Kind » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:31 pm

Hilarious and meaningful. The perfect April Fools proposal. World Assembly ought to be a region name not held hostage by two who have not been active in years. Approved.

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Postby Anonymous Nation » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:33 pm

Thank you kind Delegate, I shall send a campaign telegram before the end of the night.

Together we can free the WA!

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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:48 pm

Seriously -_-? No support. Not only did you not draft it first, your targeting an non-executive foundered region.
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Postby Anonymous Nation » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:51 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:Seriously -_-? No support. Not only did you not draft it first,
I did create several drafts. That process just was not public. As is my right as an author.
Lenlyvit wrote: your targeting an non-executive foundered region.

*you're, you should draft your posts privately. :P
But correct. Who do you think I should have targeted? That's a weird thing to say.

As laid out in the draft. I propose we free up this region to be used by the community instead of hoarded away for six more years.
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Postby Reutoa » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:54 pm

Anonymous Nation wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:Seriously -_-? No support. Not only did you not draft it first,
I did create several drafts. That process just was not public. As is my right as an author.
Lenlyvit wrote: your targeting an non-executive foundered region.

*you're, you should draft your posts privately. :P
But correct. Who do you think I should have targeted? That's a weird thing to say.

As laid out in the draft. I propose we free up this region to be used by the community instead of hoarded away for six more years.


So you're basically saying that anyone's private region is up for Grabs?
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Postby Anonymous Nation » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:56 pm

Reutoa wrote:
Anonymous Nation wrote:I did create several drafts. That process just was not public. As is my right as an author.
*you're, you should draft your posts privately. :P
But correct. Who do you think I should have targeted? That's a weird thing to say.

As laid out in the draft. I propose we free up this region to be used by the community instead of hoarded away for six more years.


So you're basically saying that anyone's private region is up for Grabs?

Are private regions generally non-executive founder regions that could be subject to a WASC Liberation?

If so, and they're hoarding them away not using them, then sure. I'll say that.

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Postby Reutoa » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:58 pm

Anonymous Nation wrote:
Reutoa wrote:
So you're basically saying that anyone's private region is up for Grabs?

Are private regions generally non-executive founder regions that could be subject to a WASC Liberation?

If so, and they're hoarding them away not using them, then sure. I'll say that.


That's not entirely fair to the Founder of any Region, he/she could just be too busy to do anything with their Region besides keeping their nation from Ceasing to Exist.
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Postby Anonymous Nation » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:59 pm

Reutoa wrote:
Anonymous Nation wrote:Are private regions generally non-executive founder regions that could be subject to a WASC Liberation?

If so, and they're hoarding them away not using them, then sure. I'll say that.


That's not entirely fair to the Founder of any Region, he/she could just be too busy to do anything with their Region besides keeping their nation from Ceasing to Exist.

Is the term non-executive founder a term that is familiar to you? Just curious, because you skipped over it again.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:32 pm

Anonymous Nation wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:Seriously -_-? No support. Not only did you not draft it first,
I did create several drafts. That process just was not public. As is my right as an author.
Lenlyvit wrote: your targeting an non-executive foundered region.

*you're, you should draft your posts privately. :P
But correct. Who do you think I should have targeted? That's a weird thing to say.

As laid out in the draft. I propose we free up this region to be used by the community instead of hoarded away for six more years.

Auto-correct didn't catch that misspelling, so don't be an ass. I was driving at the time I made the post. Your nation was just founded, so you are a regular player hiding behind a puppet and I think your main may be Lermantian Army. I could be wrong though. As to your other drafts, doubt it or else you'd have done it in a forum somewhere. Care to point them out? The region was passworded and nothing done with it due to the fact that when founding, the player probably accidentally hit non-executive founder. This region should stay locked like its founder wants.
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Postby Anonymous Nation » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Did you just say you posting on the internet while driving?! BAD LENLY.

Good guess, but no. I'm neither Lermantian Army or an ass.

My drafts were not posted on a forum somewhere because they were not public. I don't need help. I wanted to write it in a very specific way. That's my right as an author.

Campaign telegrams sent to all delegates + 50 new delegates. Let's get this baby to Quorum!
If this does meet quorum I say we start a thread in Gameplay to plan what to do if this thing passes!

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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:43 am

No Draft = No Support. In addition, this proposal sets a very negative precedent for liberating regions solely based on a lack of activity.
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Postby Rafterland » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:21 am

Kenmoria wrote:No Draft = No Support. In addition, this proposal sets a very negative precedent for liberating regions solely based on a lack of activity.


Puerile, but still less puerile as some april's fools joke getting an actual campaign, meh
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Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:18 am

I can't believe this reached quorum -_-. No support still.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:54 am

Lenlyvit wrote:I can't believe this reached quorum -_-. No support still.
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Postby Anonymous Nation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:35 am

Thank you to all the Delegates that are on board to save this region from it's powerless and hopeless situation!

If my count on my fingers is correct this will either go to vote on April 12th or April 16th which will be decided by whether Liberate Femdom Empire eeks out a quorum and holds it for a week while queued.

I'll try to get a thread up in Gameplay tonight or tomorrow night about what comes next if the WA decides this region doesn't have to sit for six more years completely useless to anyone.
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Postby Ambassador » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:28 pm

Tinhampton sent a telegram to my main nation, Topid to alert me to this proposal. Thank you sir!

So let me add what information I have to this discussion:
  1. I had forgotten I had this region. It appears I founded this when I founded The World Assembly. I often grab up similarly named regions just to cut off impersonation (joke or malicious), which was a common GP practice. I haven't even done anything with The World Assembly since Bitely used it for a resolution ages ago. I prefer "The World Assembly" anyway since the game assumes if a region name needs a "The" preceding it in a sentence then the "the" will be included in the name (see TRR, TEP, TP, TSP, TNP, TWP). Some of the wording on the nation page will sound weird if you use "World Assembly" though I will grant that it looks better aesthetically on the side panel. Preference call I suppose. So long story short, I'm not necessarily attached to it and would be okay to see it slip from my control.
  2. I don't know what the password is, nor can I change/remove it as I am non-Executive. I am sure I saved it somewhere all those years ago, but I can't figure out where I put it. I spent some time digging for it today, but It isn't in the place I would usually put something like that nor can I think of any other places to look. I suspect it is lost forever. Which is really frustrating since I know it must be a non-scrambled password since I moved a second nation in after founding it. I knew what it was at one point. It has just faded away somewhere. Probably in the deep recesses of an old laptop.
  3. I do not intend to refound this region unless I can figure out what that password is. Sorry. I'm decent at refounding regions, but if I don't know what the password is I get one shot and if my trigger is off causing me to miss the update I can't move back. So it'd be open season at the next update. To prevent that, if I did refound the region I would need to be extra liberal with my trigger and try to move much earlier than I normally would. And I'm just not comfortable with that, because while I'm generous, I don't really want to let go of it just to see someone else lock it down immediately after.
Having said all this, I will give this effort my blessing (not that I think I'm really entitled to say) if the intent is to leave the Liberation in effect and not to strike it down and refound the region. If you want the region opened up, I can support this. If you just want the region, then I hope you won't try and I do not support. Even if you leave the Liberation standing though, you should be aware that you're going to have raider problems often. And it would be wise to take precautions to minimize those problems. There are people out there that could help with that. I (Topid) would be one such person.

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Postby Alkasia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:02 pm

Unfortunately that is a main issue that a Liberation would cause. If World Assembly were opened up, it would be a prime target for a repeal and hostile refound. Not to mention executive Delegate + lack of a community = a battleground to hold the Delegacy long enough to make something out of it. It would be a bit of a mess. Like a Warzone, essentially. This isn't necessarily an issue if a proper community could be created but the risk of a repeal + refound worries me.

If Topid remembered the password, there would be a path towards reopening the region, although as they stated, raiders would still prove a nuisance.

Alas, since this is not an option and a Liberation would theoretically deliver the region directly into the hands of raiders, I still cannot support this. Better to leave the region closed and in the hands of its original founder than to risk it becoming a raider trophy for the rest of time.
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Postby Anonymous Nation » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:08 am

Well, shit. This is pointless now.

Fair enough. I’m out.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:58 am

Anonymous Nation wrote:Well, shit. This is pointless now.

Fair enough. I’m out.

In light of this, I have sent out a deapproval campaign which has already led to twelve withdrawals (out of what was then 179. The former figure includes Slovasgrad, who approved and then deapproved the Liberation), which reads like so:
Please withdraw your approval of Liberate World Assembly, given that you have not already. The region of World Assembly itself has been refounded by Ambassador (you may also know him as Topid, the nation which engaged in the previous two refounds of World Assembly), who has now given himself executive founder powers. As the author of the proposal has himself said on the forums, "this is pointless now."

Come on... you know you want to click on "Withdraw Approval"!

Also, I am not alone in noticing that the first letters of each clause spell out "RABBIT."
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Postby Wrapper » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:16 am

Tinhampton wrote:Also, I am not alone in noticing that the first letters of each clause spell out "RABBIT."

I noticed, but I didn't think it was promoting a region or group, so I ruled it legal.

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Postby Bedetopia » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:44 am

You guys might want to stop being so trigger happy with liberations. If you asked the founder first this wouldn't have happened.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:11 am

Given that the region has been refounded, this liberation is pointless.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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Postby Wrapper » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:24 am

Anonymous Nation wrote:Well, shit. This is pointless now.

Fair enough. I’m out.

In that case, how about you save us all some time and energy and withdraw the proposal?

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:06 am

Bedetopia wrote:If you asked the founder first this wouldn't have happened.

Doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.

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