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[APPROVAL FAILED] Repeal "Liberate Nazi Europa"

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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:28 pm

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Heh i'm all for mob justice. Wasn't too long ago Nazi Europe invaded Hell. You say liberations should only be used against regions conquered by raiders, but using it against Nazi raiders themselves is a step to far? I find that laughable.


Be real, though: this isn't about being raiders, but, rather, is about ideology. La Navasse, the original author of the liberation, has even noted that it is all about ideology. Otherwise, why not liberate the Black Hawks, or some other raider region?

The first three liberations - NE, K-Reich, and Femdom - aren't shining stars of resolutions, but they passed because they were so obviously fascist. The same won't happen for the more dubious ones like UCR or Arcem.
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North Saitama
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Postby North Saitama » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:35 pm

The Stalker wrote:
North Saitama wrote:
Be real, though: this isn't about being raiders, but, rather, is about ideology. La Navasse, the original author of the liberation, has even noted that it is all about ideology. Otherwise, why not liberate the Black Hawks, or some other raider region?


Not sure why you think the Nazi ideology should be tolerated, it's because they're Nazis it passed. I don't expect his other liberations to pass.


That is the problem, though: the SC does not exist to enforce a party line. As long as fascist and Nazi regions are peaceful, who are we to force our party line on them?

Kaboomlandia wrote:
North Saitama wrote:
Be real, though: this isn't about being raiders, but, rather, is about ideology. La Navasse, the original author of the liberation, has even noted that it is all about ideology. Otherwise, why not liberate the Black Hawks, or some other raider region?

The first three liberations - NE, K-Reich, and Femdom - aren't shining stars of resolutions, but they passed because they were so obviously fascist. The same won't happen for the more dubious ones like UCR or Arcem.


Once again, who cares if they are fascist? The point of the SC is not to enforce a party line, but, rather, ensure peace within NS.
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Postby The Stalker » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:38 pm

North Saitama wrote:
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Not sure why you think the Nazi ideology should be tolerated, it's because they're Nazis it passed. I don't expect his other liberations to pass.


That is the problem, though: the SC does not exist to enforce a party line. As long as fascist and Nazi regions are peaceful, who are we to force our party line on them?


Now you're changing your story, didn't we just talk about how NE are raiders as well? lol, they aren't peaceful, their Nazi raiders, literally the least peaceful combination in NS.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:36 am

I would rather a condemn be passed before this gets repealed
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Postby Chricoma » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:44 am

Some sort of action because of their raiding is a great idea, raiders will be purged. The thing is La Navasse is targeting primarily for ideology, i'd much rather this be done in the name of peace rather than attacking ideologies whom we don't like. Plus, what is the point of writing a liberation while they still have a founder? The WA will never liberate them if their founder never ceases to exist
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