[APPROVAL FAILED] Repeal "Liberate Nazi Europa"

[Chricoma]

RECOGNISING The good and moral intentions behind liberating Nazi Europa

NOTING That Nazi Europa has participated in invasions in the past

FURTHER NOTING That regions are entitled to a certain sovereignty and self-determination

CONCERNED That the nominee resolution concentrates more on the political views of Nazi Europa rather than their interferences of other regions

OBSERVING That this resolution is leading to more National Socialist, Fascist, and even Communist regions to be placed under liberation resolutions

BELIEVING That the Security Council is going to become a weapon against people of radical ideologies

FURTHER BELIEVING That passing a resolution to liberate a region that still has an active founder is counter-intuitive as it will give the founder of Nazi Europa an incentive to be more careful leaving a liberation pointless

WISHING To keep the Security Council as an organization that protects international peace and safety, rather than an organization promoting invasion

HEREBY Repeals Security Council Resolution #246

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This is my first resolution, please give me feedback.

I still need to add things. Do you think that I need to add some of the things Nazi Europa did?

Should I say Resolution #246 instead of nominee resolution

1) Hyperlinked Resolution 246 (suggested by Lenlyvit)
2) Argue that creating a liberation already set in place will make the founder less likely to CTE (Suggested by Imperium Anglorum)

[Lenlyvit]

RECOGNISING The good and moral intentions behind liberating Nazi Europa

NOTING That Nazi Europa has participated in invasions in the past

FURTHER NOTING That regions are entitled to a certain sovereignty and self-determination

CONCERNED That the nominee resolution concentrates more on the political views of Nazi Europa rather than their interferences of other regions

OBSERVING That this resolution is leading to more National Socialist, Fascist, and even Communist regions to be placed under liberation resolutions

BELIEVING That the Security Council is going to become a weapon against people of radical ideologies

WISHING To keep the Security Council as an organization that protects international peace and safety, rather than an organization promoting invasion

HEREBY Repeals Security Council Resolution #246

This is my first resolution, please give me feedback.

I still need to add things. Do you think that I need to add some of the things Nazi Europa did?

I also feel like each line is too short

Not too short at all! While I personally more than likely won't vote on this proposal, I think its well written. Most repeals are short things, and I don't see a single rule broken in your writing. As to a little critique, could you hyperlink the proposal on the last line? It makes it easily accessible.

[Chricoma]

RECOGNISING The good and moral intentions behind liberating Nazi Europa

NOTING That Nazi Europa has participated in invasions in the past

FURTHER NOTING That regions are entitled to a certain sovereignty and self-determination

CONCERNED That the nominee resolution concentrates more on the political views of Nazi Europa rather than their interferences of other regions

OBSERVING That this resolution is leading to more National Socialist, Fascist, and even Communist regions to be placed under liberation resolutions

BELIEVING That the Security Council is going to become a weapon against people of radical ideologies

WISHING To keep the Security Council as an organization that protects international peace and safety, rather than an organization promoting invasion

HEREBY Repeals Security Council Resolution #246

This is my first resolution, please give me feedback.

I still need to add things. Do you think that I need to add some of the things Nazi Europa did?

I also feel like each line is too short

Not too short at all! While I personally more than likely won't vote on this proposal, I think its well written. Most repeals are short things, and I don't see a single rule broken in your writing. As to a little critique, could you hyperlink the proposal on the last line? It makes it easily accessible.

Okay! thanks

[Imperium Anglorum]

Argue that a preemptive offensive liberation goes against the goal of invading whatever region you want to invade. Having a liberation already in place will only decrease the chance that a founder will cease to exist. And if you are betting on a founder being DEAT-ed, then having it already in place only creates incentives in the present to take action to lessen the effects of liberation – increasing replacement influence, creation of tools for monitoring security risks, etc. etc.

This entire affair has the same level of operational security as Navasse's laughable belly-achingly hilarious attempts to invade the Pacific by loudly declaring on the forum over and over again that he was going to do it.

[Chricoma]

Argue that a preemptive offensive liberation goes against the goal of invading whatever region you want to invade. Having a liberation already in place will only decrease the chance that a founder will cease to exist. And if you are betting on a founder being DEAT-ed, then having it already in place only creates incentives in the present to take action to lessen the effects of liberation – increasing replacement influence, creation of tools for monitoring security risks, etc. etc.

I'll work that into the proposal thanks

[Lenlyvit]

Argue that a preemptive offensive liberation goes against the goal of invading whatever region you want to invade. Having a liberation already in place will only decrease the chance that a founder will cease to exist. And if you are betting on a founder being DEAT-ed, then having it already in place only creates incentives in the present to take action to lessen the effects of liberation – increasing replacement influence, creation of tools for monitoring security risks, etc. etc.

I'll work that into the proposal thanks

Also, don't forget that there's a 5,000 character limit to proposals. That includes bbcode and spaces.

[Chricoma]

I'll work that into the proposal thanks

Also, don't forget that there's a 5,000 character limit to proposals. That includes bbcode and spaces.

Okay thanks.

So since I have never submitted a proposal before I don't know how much support I need in the forums before I can submit the proposal or how at least how long must it be in the forums before going to vote?

[Lenlyvit]

Also, don't forget that there's a 5,000 character limit to proposals. That includes bbcode and spaces.

Okay thanks.

So since I have never submitted a proposal before I don't know how much support I need in the forums before I can submit the proposal or how at least how long must it be in the forums before going to vote?

There's really no set amount of time. For this, it would be wise to wait for at least a month or so due to the crazy amount of proposals going through the SC at the moment. Too many proposals in a row leads to voter fatigue, which in turn leads to proposals you want to pass failing instead. Coupled with the fact that at this point in time a proposal like this would be crushed by the GCR delegates.

[The Stalker]

You don't appear to be a Nazi or fascist, so why do you want to help Nazis?

Regardless i'm opposed.

[Chricoma]

Okay thanks.

So since I have never submitted a proposal before I don't know how much support I need in the forums before I can submit the proposal or how at least how long must it be in the forums before going to vote?

There's really no set amount of time. For this, it would be wise to wait for at least a month or so due to the crazy amount of proposals going through the SC at the moment. Too many proposals in a row leads to voter fatigue, which in turn leads to proposals you want to pass failing instead. Coupled with the fact that at this point in time a proposal like this would be crushed by the GCR delegates.

I'll try to submit this sometime later next month then
Give me some time to get advice

[Wallenburg]

RECOGNISING The good and moral intentions behind liberating Nazi Europa

The intention--raiding--is neither good nor moral.

[Chricoma]

RECOGNISING The good and moral intentions behind liberating Nazi Europa

The intention--raiding--is neither good nor moral.

Well, I suppose looking at it in their view and the people who voted for 246's view it was to stop Nazi, I do not find it good or moral either but I try to look at other people's point of view

[North Saitama]

You don't appear to be a Nazi or fascist, so why do you want to help Nazis?

Regardless i'm opposed.

Because the SC is being used for ideological reasons against natives of a region, which, regardless of ideology, is unacceptable; regions should be allowed to believe what they wish. Liberations should be used against regions conquered by raiders, not natives, especially when the basis is purely ideological.

[Chricoma]

You don't appear to be a Nazi or fascist, so why do you want to help Nazis?

Regardless i'm opposed.

Because the SC is being used for ideological reasons against natives of a region, which, regardless of ideology, is unacceptable; regions should be allowed to believe what they wish. Liberations should be used against regions conquered by raiders, not natives, especially when the basis is purely ideological.

Exactly

[The Northeastern Confederation]

Because the SC is being used for ideological reasons against natives of a region, which, regardless of ideology, is unacceptable; regions should be allowed to believe what they wish. Liberations should be used against regions conquered by raiders, not natives, especially when the basis is purely ideological.

Exactly

Agreed.

[Chricoma]

Tfw i just voted myself out of the WA delegate

[Chricoma]

We can only hope now <3

[Fauxia]

Good luck with that one.

If you want to repeal this, point out that the founder nation isn't going to cease to exist anytime soon, and that these aren't always effective anyway- see Femdom Empire

[Kaboomlandia]

Opposed. Let's not let them hide their hateful ideology behind a password any longer.

[The Stalker]

You don't appear to be a Nazi or fascist, so why do you want to help Nazis?

Regardless i'm opposed.

Because the SC is being used for ideological reasons against natives of a region, which, regardless of ideology, is unacceptable; regions should be allowed to believe what they wish. Liberations should be used against regions conquered by raiders, not natives, especially when the basis is purely ideological.

If regions should be allow to believe what they wish, then why can't we believe it's important to fight Nazis in any and every way?

Feel free to waste your time though, this will never pass.

[North Saitama]

Because the SC is being used for ideological reasons against natives of a region, which, regardless of ideology, is unacceptable; regions should be allowed to believe what they wish. Liberations should be used against regions conquered by raiders, not natives, especially when the basis is purely ideological.

If regions should be allow to believe what they wish, then why can't we believe it's important to fight Nazis in any and every way?

Feel free to waste your time though, this will never pass.

The SC gives that opinion an unfair advantage. Compare criticising one's opinion, and punching them in the face for their opinion. In the latter case, you are even being cheered for what amounts to assault and suppressing an unpopular opinion, simply because you disagree.

[The House of Petain]

You don't appear to be a Nazi or fascist, so why do you want to help Nazis?

Regardless i'm opposed.

You don't have to be either to recognize the evils and dangers of the SC.

[The Stalker]

If regions should be allow to believe what they wish, then why can't we believe it's important to fight Nazis in any and every way?

Feel free to waste your time though, this will never pass.

The SC gives that opinion an unfair advantage. Compare criticising one's opinion, and punching them in the face for their opinion. In the latter case, you are even being cheered for what amounts to assault and suppressing an unpopular opinion, simply because you disagree.

Heh i'm all for mob justice. Wasn't too long ago Nazi Europe invaded Hell. You say liberations should only be used against regions conquered by raiders, but using it against Nazi raiders themselves is a step to far? I find that laughable.

[North Saitama]

The SC gives that opinion an unfair advantage. Compare criticising one's opinion, and punching them in the face for their opinion. In the latter case, you are even being cheered for what amounts to assault and suppressing an unpopular opinion, simply because you disagree.

Heh i'm all for mob justice. Wasn't too long ago Nazi Europe invaded Hell. You say liberations should only be used against regions conquered by raiders, but using it against Nazi raiders themselves is a step to far? I find that laughable.

Be real, though: this isn't about being raiders, but, rather, is about ideology. La Navasse, the original author of the liberation, has even noted that it is all about ideology. Otherwise, why not liberate the Black Hawks, or some other raider region?

[The Stalker]

Heh i'm all for mob justice. Wasn't too long ago Nazi Europe invaded Hell. You say liberations should only be used against regions conquered by raiders, but using it against Nazi raiders themselves is a step to far? I find that laughable.

Be real, though: this isn't about being raiders, but, rather, is about ideology. La Navasse, the original author of the liberation, has even noted that it is all about ideology. Otherwise, why not liberate the Black Hawks, or some other raider region?

Not sure why you think the Nazi ideology should be tolerated, it's because they're Nazis it passed. I don't expect his other liberations to pass.