Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:39 amSupport
Tired of the sjw
Tired of the sjw
You'd just be giving him another badge he can flaunt.
AGAINST.
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[Draft] Condemn La Navasse
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:39 amPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:43 amPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:46 amPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:05 amUpdate- I've got a lot on my plate in real life and I'm not gonna be able to keep up with NS enough to put in a proper effort towards this. If someone else wants to pick this up, you have my blessing. Sorry for any disappointment.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:48 amRoutcher wrote:Update- I've got a lot on my plate in real life and I'm not gonna be able to keep up with NS enough to put in a proper effort towards this. If someone else wants to pick this up, you have my blessing. Sorry for any disappointment.
I'd pick it up, but I'm worried my name on it could negatively affect it.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:13 pmGreater Gilead wrote:Routcher wrote:Update- I've got a lot on my plate in real life and I'm not gonna be able to keep up with NS enough to put in a proper effort towards this. If someone else wants to pick this up, you have my blessing. Sorry for any disappointment.
I'd pick it up, but I'm worried my name on it could negatively affect it.
Not anymore than unwillingness to Condemn Navasse already does
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:57 amLord Dominator wrote:Not anymore than unwillingness to Condemn Navasse already does
La Navasse has been stretching his definitions of fascism a bit, and I do believe he ought to face some sort of censure, but we lack both the delegate and popular support to adequately bolster this resolution. At least for the moment, we should content ourselves with blocking the more ridiculous resolutions he's proposed.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:26 amGiven that Navasse is quitting NS i don’t see the point in continuing this.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:39 amKaboomlandia wrote:Given that Navasse is quitting NS i don’t see the point in continuing this.
When and where did this happen? Dispatches?
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:43 amPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:57 amIt's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:07 amArkhall wrote:
It's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.
Whether or not that is the case, attempting to condemn a nation that will cease to exist when we do not have the votes to pass such a condemnation is foolish. I would focus on repealing the resolutions you found so objectionable, though that will likely be a herculean task.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:24 amHe deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:47 pmBenevolent Thomas wrote:He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.
Completely agree!
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:11 pmBenevolent Thomas wrote:He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.
Who?
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:09 pmArkhall wrote:
It's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.
LOL. That was like the good things he did.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:19 pmYou mean giving legitimacy and free advertising to regions that deserve to rot without any recognition?
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:36 pm
?Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:55 amNazi Europa was the only legitimately "fascist" or "Nazi" region LN wrote a resolution against, and I'm guessing that the majority of them are just Wehraboos and role-players. Kaiserreich really just tolerated a Nazi minority while catering to people interested in German history from Bismarck until Hitler. They struck me as more monarchist than anything from a cursory glance at their Discord, RMB, and dispatches.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:50 amRoutcher wrote:...Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions against natives have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world...
Interesting. I seem to recall a debate wherein I was repeatedly, and rather ludicrously, scolded that there was no "slippery slope" in weaponizing the Liberation, that there was no risk in causing disruption to the wider gamemap, and that of course it wouldn't be used widely against non-fascist regions or anyone else that might cross this group — "because it was only intended ever to be used against Nazis."
LOL. QED.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:48 pmNaginii wrote:Routcher wrote:...Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions against natives have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world...
Interesting. I seem to recall a debate wherein I was repeatedly, and rather ludicrously, scolded that there was no "slippery slope" in weaponizing the Liberation, that there was no risk in causing disruption to the wider gamemap, and that of course it wouldn't be used widely against non-fascist regions or anyone else that might cross this group — "because it was only intended ever to be used against Nazis."
LOL. QED.
Who else have "weaponized liberations" been used against?
I count KREICH and Nazi Europa. Am I missing something?
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:00 pmPrydania wrote:Naginii wrote:
Interesting. I seem to recall a debate wherein I was repeatedly, and rather ludicrously, scolded that there was no "slippery slope" in weaponizing the Liberation, that there was no risk in causing disruption to the wider gamemap, and that of course it wouldn't be used widely against non-fascist regions or anyone else that might cross this group — "because it was only intended ever to be used against Nazis."
LOL. QED.
Who else have "weaponized liberations" been used against?
I count KREICH and Nazi Europa. Am I missing something?
Femdom. Then we repealed it because it blew up in our face. And that’s not counting the unsuccessful attempts against other regions.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:05 pmFemdom was rife with Nazi influences so *shrug*
And those unsuccessful attempts to apply offensive liberations to non-Nazi/fascist regions proves my point. The community as a whole rejected them because it remains committed to only using this new weapon against Nazis and fascists.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:58 amPrydania wrote:Kaboomlandia wrote:Femdom. Then we repealed it because it blew up in our face. And that’s not counting the unsuccessful attempts against other regions.
Femdom was rife with Nazi influences so *shrug*
And those unsuccessful attempts to apply offensive liberations to non-Nazi/fascist regions proves my point. The community as a whole rejected them because it remains committed to only using this new weapon against Nazis and fascists.
It's nothing new.
They were around years ago when Nazi Europe (not Europa) was liberated.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:12 am