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Postby Isvataan » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:39 am

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You'd just be giving him another badge he can flaunt.

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Postby Wrapper » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:46 am

Isvataan wrote:Support

Tired of the sjw snake

Let's avoid the namecalling, shall we?

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Postby Routcher » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:05 am

Update- I've got a lot on my plate in real life and I'm not gonna be able to keep up with NS enough to put in a proper effort towards this. If someone else wants to pick this up, you have my blessing. Sorry for any disappointment.
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Postby Greater Gilead » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:48 am

Routcher wrote:Update- I've got a lot on my plate in real life and I'm not gonna be able to keep up with NS enough to put in a proper effort towards this. If someone else wants to pick this up, you have my blessing. Sorry for any disappointment.

I'd pick it up, but I'm worried my name on it could negatively affect it.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:13 pm

Greater Gilead wrote:
Routcher wrote:Update- I've got a lot on my plate in real life and I'm not gonna be able to keep up with NS enough to put in a proper effort towards this. If someone else wants to pick this up, you have my blessing. Sorry for any disappointment.

I'd pick it up, but I'm worried my name on it could negatively affect it.

Not anymore than unwillingness to Condemn Navasse already does
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:57 am

Lord Dominator wrote:Not anymore than unwillingness to Condemn Navasse already does

La Navasse has been stretching his definitions of fascism a bit, and I do believe he ought to face some sort of censure, but we lack both the delegate and popular support to adequately bolster this resolution. At least for the moment, we should content ourselves with blocking the more ridiculous resolutions he's proposed.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:26 am

Given that Navasse is quitting NS i don’t see the point in continuing this.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:39 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:Given that Navasse is quitting NS i don’t see the point in continuing this.

When and where did this happen? Dispatches?
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Postby Arotania » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:43 am

Fahran wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Given that Navasse is quitting NS i don’t see the point in continuing this.

When and where did this happen? Dispatches?


viewtopic.php?f=12&t=441623

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Postby Arkhall » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:57 am

Arotania wrote:
Fahran wrote:When and where did this happen? Dispatches?


viewtopic.php?f=12&t=441623

It's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.

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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:07 am

Arkhall wrote:

It's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.

Whether or not that is the case, attempting to condemn a nation that will cease to exist when we do not have the votes to pass such a condemnation is foolish. I would focus on repealing the resolutions you found so objectionable, though that will likely be a herculean task.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:24 am

He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.
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Postby Big Bad Badger » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:47 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.

Completely agree!
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Benevolent Thomas wrote:He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.

Who?

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Postby Kurnugia » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:09 pm

Arkhall wrote:

It's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.

LOL. That was like the good things he did.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:19 pm

Kurnugia wrote:
Arkhall wrote:It's almost like he knows he's defamed his own name with these absolute jokes of proposals, and is pretending to step away so that he can bring a puppet nation and author the proposals again anyways.

LOL. That was like the good things he did.

You mean giving legitimacy and free advertising to regions that deserve to rot without any recognition?
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:36 pm

Cute Puppies wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.

Who?

Read the topic and proposal maybe ;) ?
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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:55 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Kurnugia wrote:LOL. That was like the good things he did.

You mean giving legitimacy and free advertising to regions that deserve to rot without any recognition?

Nazi Europa was the only legitimately "fascist" or "Nazi" region LN wrote a resolution against, and I'm guessing that the majority of them are just Wehraboos and role-players. Kaiserreich really just tolerated a Nazi minority while catering to people interested in German history from Bismarck until Hitler. They struck me as more monarchist than anything from a cursory glance at their Discord, RMB, and dispatches.
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Postby Naginii » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:50 am

Routcher wrote:...Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions against natives have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world...


Interesting. I seem to recall a debate wherein I was repeatedly, and rather ludicrously, scolded that there was no "slippery slope" in weaponizing the Liberation, that there was no risk in causing disruption to the wider gamemap, and that of course it wouldn't be used widely against non-fascist regions or anyone else that might cross this group — "because it was only intended ever to be used against Nazis."

LOL. QED.

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Postby Prydania » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:48 pm

Naginii wrote:
Routcher wrote:...Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions against natives have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world...


Interesting. I seem to recall a debate wherein I was repeatedly, and rather ludicrously, scolded that there was no "slippery slope" in weaponizing the Liberation, that there was no risk in causing disruption to the wider gamemap, and that of course it wouldn't be used widely against non-fascist regions or anyone else that might cross this group — "because it was only intended ever to be used against Nazis."

LOL. QED.

Who else have "weaponized liberations" been used against?
I count KREICH and Nazi Europa. Am I missing something?

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:00 pm

Prydania wrote:
Naginii wrote:
Interesting. I seem to recall a debate wherein I was repeatedly, and rather ludicrously, scolded that there was no "slippery slope" in weaponizing the Liberation, that there was no risk in causing disruption to the wider gamemap, and that of course it wouldn't be used widely against non-fascist regions or anyone else that might cross this group — "because it was only intended ever to be used against Nazis."

LOL. QED.

Who else have "weaponized liberations" been used against?
I count KREICH and Nazi Europa. Am I missing something?

Femdom. Then we repealed it because it blew up in our face. And that’s not counting the unsuccessful attempts against other regions.
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Postby Prydania » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:05 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Prydania wrote:Who else have "weaponized liberations" been used against?
I count KREICH and Nazi Europa. Am I missing something?

Femdom. Then we repealed it because it blew up in our face. And that’s not counting the unsuccessful attempts against other regions.

Femdom was rife with Nazi influences so *shrug*

And those unsuccessful attempts to apply offensive liberations to non-Nazi/fascist regions proves my point. The community as a whole rejected them because it remains committed to only using this new weapon against Nazis and fascists.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:58 am

Prydania wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Femdom. Then we repealed it because it blew up in our face. And that’s not counting the unsuccessful attempts against other regions.

Femdom was rife with Nazi influences so *shrug*

And those unsuccessful attempts to apply offensive liberations to non-Nazi/fascist regions proves my point. The community as a whole rejected them because it remains committed to only using this new weapon against Nazis and fascists.

It's nothing new.

They were around years ago when Nazi Europe (not Europa) was liberated.
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Postby Isvataan » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:12 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:He deserves to be forgotten. AGAINST.


Indeed, they should be forgotten

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