[Draft] Condemn La Navasse

[Routcher]

Condemn La Navasse

Proposed By: Routcher
Nominee: La Navasse
Category: Condemnation

The World Assembly,

Dismayed at La Navasse's total disregard for regional sovereignty,

Appalled at the nation's repeated efforts to punish political rivals with Liberations,

Admitting that National Socialism is a blight on the international community but,

Recognizing that regions that accept help from National Socialists are not themselves National Socialist,

Observing that the nominee has hypocritically proposed liberating many regions that align themselves with fascism, despite being an ally of fascism when it suits them,

Further observing the blatant dishonesty in proposals put forward by the nominee that state that Femdom Empire's leadership has put up increased border controls due to fascist influence, and another proposal that falsely accuses the region Arcem for being allies with fascists,

Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions against natives have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world,

Disappointed by the nominee's blatant disrespect for this most august council by abusing the liberation process,

Noting the prideful attitude of the nation's government; constantly gloating about how many harmful resolutions reach quorum,

Believing that the World Assembly in general, and the Security Council in particular, has the mandate to encourage peace, freedom, and security to the regions of the world, and

Disgusted by the nation's attempt to undermine that mandate by using the Security Council in ways described in this proposal,

The Security Council of the World Assembly hereby Condemns La Navasse

This is my first time authoring a proposal, so any and all input is appreciated. Thank you.

[The Stalker]

Gonna be hard to condemn someone for actions that were overwhelming supported by the WA body.

Against.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

Gonna be hard to condemn someone for actions that were overwhelming supported by the WA body.

Against.

It’s worth a try. If we have any slightest chance, we could make the first steps to reform the WA as a whole. We need hope, and this is it.

Full support, as well as the support of the entire Second Kekistani Republic.

[Unibot III]

Gonna be hard to condemn someone for actions that were overwhelming supported by the WA body.

Against.

You must be new here.

The WA is perfectly capable of that mind-numbing hypocrisy vote to vote.

[Bedetopia]

If it wasn't obvious, full support.

However, I'd rather see his undeserved badges get removed instead of adding another one.

[The Stalker]

Gonna be hard to condemn someone for actions that were overwhelming supported by the WA body.

Against.

You must be new here.

The WA is perfectly capable of that mind-numbing hypocrisy vote to vote.

Haha true, but I don't see this passing. Gonna need additional content other than "he passed resolutions I don't like".

[Indo-Malaysia]

Opposed.

Giving badge hunters.. bigger badges is not something anyone wants to happen.

That hypocrite doesn't deserve recognition by the Council.

[The Stalker]

Don't really think someone who already has the SC author badge can be considered a badge hunter for writing additional resolutions.

[Central Asian Republics]

Gonna be hard to condemn someone for actions that were overwhelming supported by the WA body.

Against.

You act like the WA won't immediately change their minds when the next resolution comes along.

[The Stalker]

Gonna be hard to condemn someone for actions that were overwhelming supported by the WA body.

Against.

You act like the WA won't immediately change their minds when the next resolution comes along.

The resolutions he authored passed by a landslide, why would people who supported his actions, now condemn him? The logic in that is very silly. Better to try and repeal them, which would also be hard to do at this point in time.

[Die PreuBen Kaiserreich]

So... why are we condemning him? He's made some pretty good legislation and he's been overwhelmingly supported.

[Granluras]

Condemn La Navasse

Proposed By: Routcher
Nominee: La Navasse
Category: Condemnation

The World Assembly,

Dismayed at La Navasse's total disregard for regional sovereignty,

Appalled at the nation's repeated efforts to punish political rivals with Liberations,

Observing that the nominee has hypocritically proposed liberating many regions that align themselves with fascism, despite being an ally of fascism when it suits them,

Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world,

Disappointed by the nominee's blatant disrespect for this most august council by reducing its process to be little more than a political witch hunt,

Noting the prideful attitude of the nation's government; constantly gloating about how many harmful resolutions reach quorum,

Believing that the World Assembly in general, and the Security Council in particular, has the mandate to encourage peace, freedom, and security to the regions of the world, and

Disgusted by the nation's attempt to undermine that mandate by using the Security Council in ways described in this proposal,

The Security Council of the World Assembly hereby Condemns La Navasse

This is my first time authoring a proposal, so any and all input is appreciated. Thank you.

While I’m not sure about how successful this will be if submitted, I back it a hundred percent. The lunatic deserves a taste of his own medicine.

[Granluras]

Condemn La Navasse

Proposed By: Routcher
Nominee: La Navasse
Category: Condemnation

The World Assembly,

Dismayed at La Navasse's total disregard for regional sovereignty,

Appalled at the nation's repeated efforts to punish political rivals with Liberations,

Observing that the nominee has hypocritically proposed liberating many regions that align themselves with fascism, despite being an ally of fascism when it suits them,

Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world,

Disappointed by the nominee's blatant disrespect for this most august council by reducing its process to be little more than a political witch hunt,

Noting the prideful attitude of the nation's government; constantly gloating about how many harmful resolutions reach quorum,

Believing that the World Assembly in general, and the Security Council in particular, has the mandate to encourage peace, freedom, and security to the regions of the world, and

Disgusted by the nation's attempt to undermine that mandate by using the Security Council in ways described in this proposal,

The Security Council of the World Assembly hereby Condemns La Navasse

This is my first time authoring a proposal, so any and all input is appreciated. Thank you.

While I’m not sure about how successful this will be if submitted, I back it a hundred percent. The lunatic deserves a taste of his own medicine.

Actually, considering how many regions he’s disgruntled due to his trigger happy condemnations this proposal might get a lot of backing. But I guess only time will tell and whatever posts are made on this thread.

[No Name Available]

Condemn La Navasse

Proposed By: Routcher
Nominee: La Navasse
Category: Condemnation

The World Assembly,

Dismayed at La Navasse's total disregard for regional sovereignty,

Appalled at the nation's repeated efforts to punish political rivals with Liberations,

Observing that the nominee has hypocritically proposed liberating many regions that align themselves with fascism, despite being an ally of fascism when it suits them,

Concerned by the precedent these aggressive liberation resolutions have set, which create a culture within the Security Council more focused on war than on global peace, and ultimately leads to increased destabilization around the world,

Disappointed by the nominee's blatant disrespect for this most august council by reducing its process to be little more than a political witch hunt,

Noting the prideful attitude of the nation's government; constantly gloating about how many harmful resolutions reach quorum,

Believing that the World Assembly in general, and the Security Council in particular, has the mandate to encourage peace, freedom, and security to the regions of the world, and

Disgusted by the nation's attempt to undermine that mandate by using the Security Council in ways described in this proposal,

The Security Council of the World Assembly hereby Condemns La Navasse

This is my first time authoring a proposal, so any and all input is appreciated. Thank you.

The line starting "Disappointed..." should probably be removed. First, the use of an idiom such as 'political witch hunt' may be confusing when translated to languages other than English (not super sure, I just know that idioms usually do not translate well). Second, La Navasse is publicly on a Nazi hunt, which has proven to be have lots of support for obvious reasons. Third, the targets seem to be those that actually are or provide safe haven to Nazis or those with viewpoints similar to the more vile ones of Nazis, rather than targeting their rivals by accusing them of Nazism.

I would suggest focusing the Resolution of Condemnation on the methods and means that La Navasse is using in their campaign, while that line targets the campaign itself. The recent SC votes show that the SC is overwhelmingly anti-Nazi. This Condemnation might allow members of the SC to show that while they are anti-Nazi, they also realize that the methods they are using are a corruption of their intent. There are actions that are sometimes necessary or less awful than the alternative, but that does not make them good and praiseworthy of themselves.

Removing and weakening strongholds of Nazis is a good thing; abusing Liberations is a bad thing. Abusing Liberations to weaken Nazis is bad, but likely better than letting Nazis fester--but we should not commend those responsible for such an action. It is appropriate and logical to condemn La Navasse for their actions even if you agree with their intent and end result.

FOR, if the witch hunt line is removed.

[Routcher]

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The line starting "Disappointed..." should probably be removed. First, the use of an idiom such as 'political witch hunt' may be confusing when translated to languages other than English (not super sure, I just know that idioms usually do not translate well). Second, La Navasse is publicly on a Nazi hunt, which has proven to be have lots of support for obvious reasons. Third, the targets seem to be those that actually are or provide safe haven to Nazis or those with viewpoints similar to the more vile ones of Nazis, rather than targeting their rivals by accusing them of Nazism.

I would suggest focusing the Resolution of Condemnation on the methods and means that La Navasse is using in their campaign, while that line targets the campaign itself. The recent SC votes show that the SC is overwhelmingly anti-Nazi. This Condemnation might allow members of the SC to show that while they are anti-Nazi, they also realize that the methods they are using are a corruption of their intent. There are actions that are sometimes necessary or less awful than the alternative, but that does not make them good and praiseworthy of themselves.

Removing and weakening strongholds of Nazis is a good thing; abusing Liberations is a bad thing. Abusing Liberations to weaken Nazis is bad, but likely better than letting Nazis fester--but we should not commend those responsible for such an action. It is appropriate and logical to condemn La Navasse for their actions even if you agree with their intent and end result.

FOR, if the witch hunt line is removed.

Thank you for the feedback. The line in question was changed.

[Free Syllvin]

Full support for this resolution. I disagree with the principles behind La Navasse's proposals, which they have admitted have no purpose other than to pass resolutions for the sake of passing them by appealing to the psychological trend of hating fascism. It is disheartening to see this behavior tolerated and sometimes encouraged by the people in our region. While I agree that giving someone a badge when they are badge-hunting is somewhat counter-productive, and that condemnations are essentially useless, it is important to display a public and communal push-back against this sort of behavior.

[Routcher]

Badge hunter or not, a Condemnation may prevent voters from taking any future resolutions authored by him seriously, which may be a big step in reversing the harm done.

[Routcher]

If it wasn't obvious, full support.

However, I'd rather see his undeserved badges get removed instead of adding another one.

Oh don't worry, I don't plan to stop here.

[Routcher]

So... why are we condemning him? He's made some pretty good legislation and he's been overwhelmingly supported.

Please read the Liberate Arcem thread to see what he's doing. He's using "NAZIS GUYS GET EM" to take out political rivals. SCUT is NOT a fascist organization, nor does it enter alliances with nazi regions. SCUT is politically neutral. Kaiserreich is Monarchist, a WWI LARP group, who got liberated because the majority of voters saw "Nazi" in the text and "REICH" in the regional name and didn't think much more of it.

Femdom Empire is getting Liberated because they accepted help from Nazis in a time of crisis, which is hardly something worthy of such an aggressive sanction. In fact, La Navasse has allied with Nazis when convenient.

[Langor Empire]

So... why are we condemning him? He's made some pretty good legislation and he's been overwhelmingly supported.

La Navasse uses the fascist theme to attack regions and communities they dislike, assuming they have the right to judge right and wrong and exploiting the ignorance of the majority of WA members who they target with aggressive campaigning. Their constant warmongering only fuels the fire of conflict which is the reason the NS World is in its current chaotic state.

Full support.

[Aclion]

The resolutions he authored passed by a landslide, why would people who supported his actions, now condemn him? The logic in that is very silly.

His next draft is against the USSD

[Wallenburg]

Full support.

[Lenlyvit]

I'm just going to leave this here, in this one thread. Check it out of you're interested in talking about the SC.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=434009

[Rafterland]

Is there any information as to whether the Council knew about the planned liberation proposals ? Because they really look like smoking guns. In this case, a condemnation wouldn't be illogical.

[Routcher]

Is there any information as to whether the Council knew about the planned liberation proposals ? Because they really look like smoking guns. In this case, a condemnation wouldn't be illogical.

In the SCUT thread, La NAvasse highlights his master plan regarding all the regions he is targeting. Arcem, the leader region of SCUT, is falsely accused of being a fascist sympathizer region.

Unless your question was in regards to something else?