[Draft] Liberate USSD

[La Navasse]

The current order of proposals is intended to be:

• Liberate Nazi Europa - PASSED, now SC Resolution #246
• Liberate Femdom Empire - PASSED, now SC Resolution #248
• Liberate Arcem (SCUT) - Interregionally Irrelevant
• [Planned] Liberate The Holy Reich of Bunicken - Interregionally Irrelevant
• Repeal "Liberate The Communal Confederacy" | Whenever It's Ready - PASSED by Kuriko, now SC Resolution #261
• [Planned] Liberate Amestris - Interregionally Irrelevant
• Liberate USSD - In Progress
• Liberate Federation of Conservative Nations - In Progress
• [On Hold] Liberate Farkasfalka

This proposal is by no means an attack on leftist regions. In reality, it is an attack on contradictory, completely incoherent ideologies such as the cult of personality around their Founder that USSD actively promotes and uses in its governance. Future offensive liberations against non-fascist regions will likely only be against regions in The Vanguard Treaty.

You may also use this thread to comment on the on hold proposal Liberate Farkasfalka, which will be delved into carefully to determine whether it should come to be.

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Liberate USSD
Proposed By: La Navasse

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The Security Council,

Revolted by the USSD, also known as the United Soviet Socialist Dictatorship, in their open promotion and usage of a cult of personality around their Founder as a detrimental ideology that maintains a one-party rule under a select group of oligarchs whose wishes are contradictory to the Security Council's values;

Appalled by the USSD’s horrid and disastrous mixture of the worst parts of socialist dictatorship and meritocracy into a system that resembles neither, is inefficient, and has resulted in its near complete isolation from the leftist community;

Displeased with the USSD’s attempt to create a sphere of influence with The Vanguard Treaty, a disdainful and unrefined copycat of the NSLeft;

Nauseated by the USSD’s leadership by their Founder, who has led the USSD to accomplish only his own goals of power and influence to the detriment of the region;

Seeking to properly reprimand the region for its pursuit of corrupt & toxic goals;

Hereby Liberates the USSD.

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Liberate USSD
Proposed By: La Navasse

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The Security Council,

Revolted by the USSD, also known as the United Soviet Socialist Dictatorship, in their open promotion and usage of Stalinism, a detrimental ideology that maintains a one-party rule under a select group of oligarchs whose wishes are contradictory to SC’s values;

Appalled by USSD’s horrid and disastrous mixture of the worst parts of socialist dictatorship and meritocracy into a system that resembles neither, is inefficient, and has resulted in its near complete isolation from the leftist community,

Displeased with the USSD’s attempt to create a sphere of influence with The Vanguard Treaty, a disdainful and unrefined copycat of the NSLeft;

Nauseated by USSD’s leadership by Vetelo, who has led USSD in its corrupt Stalinist revolution to accomplish only his own goals of power and influence to the detriment of the region;

Seeking to properly reprimand the region for its pursuit of Stalinist, corrupt goals;

Hereby Liberates USSD.

[Caelapes]

the USSD doesn't have a coherent ideology, and if they did, it wouldn't be "Stalinism" - a term that is so devoid of meaning that it'd almost be funny if it weren't trotted out any time people needed a bogeyman to use to attack leftists

[Fauxia]

Please stop underlining things, Vuon.

Also, didn’t Attero talk with KAISERREICH at one point for various stuff?

And “detrimental ideology” sounds bad.

[Sarakart]

the USSD doesn't have a coherent ideology, and if they did, it wouldn't be "Stalinism" - a term that is so devoid of meaning that it'd almost be funny if it weren't trotted out any time people needed a bogeyman to use to attack leftists

That's not fair, sometimes other leftists will use it to attack leftists

[Fauxia]

the USSD doesn't have a coherent ideology, and if they did, it wouldn't be "Stalinism" - a term that is so devoid of meaning that it'd almost be funny if it weren't trotted out any time people needed a bogeyman to use to attack leftists

That's not fair, sometimes other leftists will use it to attack leftists

Misley would probably disagree, though, he has a much stricter view of leftism than most people

[La Navasse]

the USSD doesn't have a coherent ideology, and if they did, it wouldn't be "Stalinism" - a term that is so devoid of meaning that it'd almost be funny if it weren't trotted out any time people needed a bogeyman to use to attack leftists

I think Stalinism is an appropriate term of USSD's awful style of "left-esque" governance. However, I would love additional elaboration.

[Aclion]

I guess ideological liberation-condemnations are a thing now. You should still probably bring up their raiding history.

[La Navasse]

Please stop underlining things, Vuon.

Also, didn’t Attero talk with KAISERREICH at one point for various stuff?

And “detrimental ideology” sounds bad.

I'll heed your call. I haven't gotten solid evidence on a KAISERREICH collaboration, but such would be welcome.

I guess ideological liberation-condemnations are a thing now. You should still probably bring up their raiding history.

Sure thing - any resources that'd be useful for me to dig?

[Aclion]

I guess ideological liberation-condemnations are a thing now. You should still probably bring up their raiding history.

Sure thing - any resources that'd be useful for me to dig?

Not really, beyond their own posted history https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=414777 I see by their own admission they were kicked out of TRF for raiding a liberal region.

[La Navasse]

Sure thing - any resources that'd be useful for me to dig?

Not really, beyond their own posted history https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=414777 I see by their own admission they were kicked out of TRF for raiding a liberal region.

Thanks.

[Fauxia]

Sure thing - any resources that'd be useful for me to dig?

Not really, beyond their own posted history https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=414777 I see by their own admission they were kicked out of TRF for raiding a liberal region.

Oh right, raiding. I remember us Wardens nabbing their jump point, that was fun

[Aclion]

Not really, beyond their own posted history https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=414777 I see by their own admission they were kicked out of TRF for raiding a liberal region.

Oh right, raiding. I remember us Wardens nabbing their jump point, that was fun

Yeah, remember when the SC was about raiding?

[Fauxia]

Oh right, raiding. I remember us Wardens nabbing their jump point, that was fun

Yeah, remember when the SC was about raiding?

That was, like, last year or something. Long time ago

[Cedoria]

Not really anything in this Liberation that would make me support it yet. I'm well aware of USSD's issues and our two regions don't exactly get along at this point, but so far not seeing anything condemn-worthy, let alone Liberation worthy, in this resolution.

[Morriband]

This proposal is by no means an attack on leftist regions. In reality, it is an attack on contradictory, completely incoherent ideologies such as Stalinism, an ideology the USSD actively promotes and uses in its governance. Future Stalinist Liberations will likely only be with regions in The Vanguard Treaty, if any are planned.

This was originally intended to be released in conjunction with the planned Liberate The Iron Order. However, as The Iron Order appears to be moving regions, the Liberation will be reevaluated.

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Liberate USSD
Proposed By: La Navasse

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The Security Council,

Approving of the recent trend of preemptive liberations, or Neoliberations, against regions inconsistent with the Security Council’s values;

Revolted by the USSD, also known as the United Soviet Socialist Dictatorship, in their open promotion and usage of Stalinism, a detrimental ideology that maintains a one-party rule under a select group of oligarchs whose wishes are contradictory to SC’s values;

Appalled by USSD’s horrid and disastrous mixture of the worst parts of socialist dictatorship and meritocracy into a system that resembles neither, is inefficient, and has resulted in its near complete isolation from the leftist community,

Displeased with the USSD’s attempt to create a sphere of influence with The Vanguard Treaty, a disdainful and unrefined copycat of the NSLeft;

Nauseated by USSD’s leadership by Vetelo, who has led USSD in its corrupt Stalinist revolution to accomplish only his own goals of power and influence to the detriment of the region;

Seeking to properly reprimand the region for its pursuit of Stalinist, corrupt goals;

Hereby Liberates USSD.

At this point you're tainting the purpose of the SC to simply gain badges. Stop. NationStates isn't about forcing everyone to fall into what you deem to be acceptable ideologies.

[Langor Empire]

Opposed.

I have a personal dislike for the USSD and a fairly negative experience with them, however, the resolution expands the author's crusade to targeting regions based not simply on their 'fascist' affiliation, but solely the fact the author disagrees with the way they run themselves; these have become a pandemic and are noticeably getting out of control, as many predicted during the original vote to liberate Kaiserreich. USSD is a sovereign and operational region and the World Assembly should not interfere in its affairs. Stop using the Security Council as a weapon against those 'whose wishes are contradictory to SC’s values'...

...or should I say the values, or even personal interests, of La Navasse?

[La Navasse]

Opposed.

I have a personal dislike for the USSD and a fairly negative experience with them, however, the resolution expands the author's crusade to targeting regions based not simply on their 'fascist' affiliation, but solely the fact the author disagrees with the way they run themselves; these have become a pandemic and are noticeably getting out of control, as many predicted during the original vote to liberate Kaiserreich. USSD is a sovereign and operational region and the World Assembly should not interfere in its affairs. Stop using the Security Council as a weapon against those 'whose wishes are contradictory to SC’s values'...

...or should I say the values, or even personal interests, of La Navasse?

There's a reason why USSD is isolationist. Research, please.

[Hemuraile]

Opposed. Use ideology as a reason for this proposal and this proposal might as well be thrown in a landfill.

[Kurnugia]

I am by no means an expert on far left ideologies. But isn't Stalinism basically a combat term for the policies under Stalin? At least I never met any far lefty considering himself to be a Stalinist...

[Kurnugia]

Opposed.

I have a personal dislike for the USSD and a fairly negative experience with them, however, the resolution expands the author's crusade to targeting regions based not simply on their 'fascist' affiliation, but solely the fact the author disagrees with the way they run themselves; these have become a pandemic and are noticeably getting out of control, as many predicted during the original vote to liberate Kaiserreich. USSD is a sovereign and operational region and the World Assembly should not interfere in its affairs. Stop using the Security Council as a weapon against those 'whose wishes are contradictory to SC’s values'...

...or should I say the values, or even personal interests, of La Navasse?

There's a reason why USSD is isolationist. Research, please.

Well, that was to build a socialist paradise. Meaning concentrating all efforts on building up the Nation rather, in contrast to Trotskyitism, than to spread it across the world.

[Langor Empire]

Opposed.

I have a personal dislike for the USSD and a fairly negative experience with them, however, the resolution expands the author's crusade to targeting regions based not simply on their 'fascist' affiliation, but solely the fact the author disagrees with the way they run themselves; these have become a pandemic and are noticeably getting out of control, as many predicted during the original vote to liberate Kaiserreich. USSD is a sovereign and operational region and the World Assembly should not interfere in its affairs. Stop using the Security Council as a weapon against those 'whose wishes are contradictory to SC’s values'...

...or should I say the values, or even personal interests, of La Navasse?

There's a reason why USSD is isolationist. Research, please.

We are not talking about USSD isolationism. It is a sovereign region and the SC should not interfere with its internal affairs regardless of their nature.

[Caelapes]

USSD isn’t isolated because they are trying to apply “Socialism in one country” to NationStates as opposed to Trotsky’s theory of permanent revolution. They don’t have a coherent ideology beyond building up a cult of personality around toxic behavior. They aren’t “Stalinist” because nothing they do relates to Marxism-Leninism, which was the actual ideology practiced in the Soviet Union under Stalin’s leadership.

[La Navasse]

USSD isn’t isolated because they are trying to apply “Socialism in one country” to NationStates as opposed to Trotsky’s theory of permanent revolution. They don’t have a coherent ideology beyond building up a cult of personality around toxic behavior. They aren’t “Stalinist” because nothing they do relates to Marxism-Leninism, which was the actual ideology practiced in the Soviet Union under Stalin’s leadership.

Could you suggest alternative wording in the proposal, which more accurately describes the state of the region?

[Caelapes]

Considering the SC is onsite, probably not.

[La Navasse]

The proposal Liberate USSD shall be put on hold due to voter fatigue related to Neoliberations and the need for more information in drafting.