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[ABANDONED] Condemn Queen Yuno

Postby Tinhampton » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:07 pm

This proposal was filed to the Security Council Condemnation Board, before its voluntary removal and abandonment

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One is assuming that the ELO is not actually a joke... consensus appears to agree right now.
EDIT TO ADD - 27th MARCH 2018: Yuno played us for fools all along! Condemn QY has been abandoned.
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Condemn Queen Yuno
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.
Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Queen Yuno
Proposed by: Tinhampton

THE SECURITY COUNCIL:

RECOGNISING that [region=the East Pacific] (tEP) - once one of the world's most venerable and hailed democracies, but now under the yoke of WA Delegate Queen Yuno (more well-known as just Yuno) - was [resolution=SC#247]Liberated[/resolution] on the 27th of March 2018, and further MORTIFIED at the state of tEP, which can be blamed on the following actions taken by Yuno:

RECALLING that, on the 23rd of March 2018 (the day Liberate tEP came to vote), Yuno abolished the Concordat, an iconic symbol of the freedom traditionally granted in tEP and the drafting of which A Slanted Black Stripe was [resolution=SC#119]Commended for in 2013[/resolution], before appointing themselves "Delegate for Life" as part of their forming the "Eastern Loligarch Order" (ELO) so-called, a government which is already adopting a hyper-Francoist agenda and strengthening ties to the New Pacific Order;

OBSERVING that, even if Yuno cannot password-lock tEP, it did temporarily expel The Eastern Fail-igarchy (SC#247's author), and has also threatened Confederacy-era Vizier Aelitia's banishment for exposing the ELO as illegitimate;

SHOCKED at how even institutions more noted for defending democracy, such as the South Pacific Special Forces, have aided the ELO coup; and that the ELO has been also supported by much of the old Confederated government, like Xoriet, Aeneas Prime (the Secretary of State), and tEP's Sovereign Army's leadership;

and STRONGLY BELIEVING that if [resolution=SC#174]Stujenske (SC#174)[/resolution] can hold the badge of shame from this august body for executing a major Francoist coup d'état, then Queen Yuno - another nation that gave off an air of trust and loyalty, before taking tEP to fulfil a hidden Francoist agenda - should be likewise punished:

HEREBY CONDEMNS Queen Yuno.

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Condemn Queen Yuno
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.
Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Queen Yuno
Proposed by: Tinhampton

THE SECURITY COUNCIL:

RECOGNISING that [region=the East Pacific] (tEP) - once one of the world's most venerable and hailed democracies, but now under the yoke of WA Delegate Queen Yuno (more well-known as just Yuno) - was [resolution=SC#247]Liberated[/resolution] on the 27th of March 2018, and further MORTIFIED at the state of tEP, which can be blamed on the following actions taken by Yuno:

RECALLING that, on the 23rd of March 2018 (the day Liberate tEP came to vote), Yuno abolished the Concordat, an iconic symbol of the freedom traditionally granted in tEP and the drafting of which A Slanted Black Stripe was [resolution=SC#119]Commended for in 2013[/resolution], before appointing themselves "Delegate for Life" as part of their forming the "Eastern Loligarch Order" (ELO) so-called;

NOTING that the ELO's hyper-Francoist agenda (which includes stronger ties with the New Pacific Order) threatens the rights of all citizens to free association, most notably by giving three weeks to resign all dual-citizenships;

OBSERVING that, even if Yuno cannot password-lock tEP, it did temporarily expel The Eastern Fail-igarchy (SC#247's author), and has also threatened Confederacy-era Vizier Aelitia's banishment for exposing the ELO as illegitimate;

SHOCKED at how even institutions more noted for defending democracy, such as the South Pacific Special Forces, have aided the ELO coup; and that the ELO has been also supported by much of the old Confederated government, like Xoriet, Aeneas Prime (the Secretary of State), and tEP's Sovereign Army's leadership;

and STRONGLY BELIEVING that if [resolution=SC#174]Stujenske (SC#174)[/resolution] can hold the badge of shame from this august body for executing a major Francoist coup d'état, then Queen Yuno - another nation that gave off an air of trust and loyalty, before taking tEP to fulfil a hidden Francoist agenda - should be likewise punished:

HEREBY CONDEMNS Queen Yuno.
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:40 pm

Not right now. I do think that the Loligarchy is for real, but I'd wait for a little while longer. Specifically, three or four weeks, at least
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:49 pm

Fauxia wrote:Not right now. I do think that the Loligarchy is for real, but I'd wait for a little while longer. Specifically, three or four weeks, at least

Funny you should say that. After Liberate tEP, there are three other proposals in queue:
  • Liberate Femdom Empire by La Navasse (set to be voted on 27-31 March)
  • Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls by Harenhime (set to be voted on 31 March-3 April)
  • Commend Wintony by Kawaii Schoolgirl (set to be voted on 3-7 April)
Add to this fact that Condemn Union of Confederate Regions by New Ex Patria is quickly gaining steam, and would come to vote between 7-11 April if it reaches quorum, and... well, either way, even if I submitted this resolution now (not that I'd ever submit a resolution without proper forum drafting anyway), it would have to remain stuck in the WA queue for between two and two-and-a-half weeks. Anyway, whether this is "fo shizzle" or just Yuno fooling us all should become apparent by April the 7th.
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:19 am

tEP!?
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:27 am

The Atlae Isles wrote:tEP!?

tEP. An issue of consistency, although I could always go the other way. (Yes, I know, haha...)

(again, if anybody has any other quibbles or criticisms about my resolution, you're more than welcome to bring them here)
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Postby Xoriet » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:51 am

It's not Yuno's fault that Cosmopolitans have been unreliable in government positions and have soured TEP's opinion. We've had multiple Cosmos in government leave for positions in other regional governments or watch them languish in inactivity in their own roles because of Cosmopolitan status. I don't see how it's so unreasonable that we might want to take a stand on that. The Concordat didn't allow for restrictions on those with citizenship, so we did what we believed was best for TEP in the future. If you want to Condemn Yuno for doing what she thought was best for the region, so be it.
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Postby Severisen » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:54 am

To add to my esteemed colleague's post, nearly the entire government has fallen in line. If you want to condemn something, condemn the region itself. And for the love of all that's good, use TEP.
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Postby Revolutionary Vanguardism » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:00 am

Why should a GCR Delegate be condemned for taking the proper measures to defend their region from subversive elements?

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Postby Kurnugia » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:04 am

Xoriet wrote:It's not Yuno's fault that Cosmopolitans have been unreliable in government positions and have soured TEP's opinion. We've had multiple Cosmos in government leave for positions in other regional governments or watch them languish in inactivity in their own roles because of Cosmopolitan status. I don't see how it's so unreasonable that we might want to take a stand on that. The Concordat didn't allow for restrictions on those with citizenship, so we did what we believed was best for TEP in the future. If you want to Condemn Yuno for doing what she thought was best for the region, so be it.

I mean... there is that ultimatum in three weeks or so. Unless I am misunderstanding something.

I don't see however what is wrong with revoking dual citizenship. As much as it might inconvenient me, it's a region's sovereign right to allow that or not.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:50 am

Kurnugia wrote:I mean... there is that ultimatum in three weeks or so.

I have already made that point in the NOTING clause of this resolution.

Considering that this can come up to vote no sooner than the 7th of April - by which time the ELO will be exposed either as the real deal or as 2018's answer to the Mississippi Company - I may well submit this soon, if there are no major nitpicks with the actual substance of the proposal.
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Postby Sarakart » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:05 pm

It's not clear to me what's the big problem with barring dual citizenship. It's not an uncommon practice in real life where the consequences are far more severe.
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Postby Kurnugia » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:12 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Kurnugia wrote:I mean... there is that ultimatum in three weeks or so.

I have already made that point in the NOTING clause of this resolution.

Considering that this can come up to vote no sooner than the 7th of April - by which time the ELO will be exposed either as the real deal or as 2018's answer to the Mississippi Company - I may well submit this soon, if there are no major nitpicks with the actual substance of the proposal.

I was addressing xor.

Anyway, what is wrong with that? I don't see it as a big deal. And I am affected by that decision.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:58 pm

In the face of public outcry, Draft 2 - which removes the reference to the dual-citizenship ultimatum - has been put up for your general purview. No other aspects of the resolution have been changed at all.

Are there any more complaints you wish to make about this proposal?
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Postby Silver Kittens » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:40 am

Kurnugia wrote:
Xoriet wrote:It's not Yuno's fault that Cosmopolitans have been unreliable in government positions and have soured TEP's opinion. We've had multiple Cosmos in government leave for positions in other regional governments or watch them languish in inactivity in their own roles because of Cosmopolitan status. I don't see how it's so unreasonable that we might want to take a stand on that. The Concordat didn't allow for restrictions on those with citizenship, so we did what we believed was best for TEP in the future. If you want to Condemn Yuno for doing what she thought was best for the region, so be it.

I mean... there is that ultimatum in three weeks or so. Unless I am misunderstanding something.

I don't see however what is wrong with revoking dual citizenship. As much as it might inconvenient me, it's a region's sovereign right to allow that or not.

It's already the EPSA policy, anyway, and always has been. It got relaxed for a while, but Yuno brought it back to how it should be. Applying it to the region was just an eventual next step.

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:46 am

So we have no direct complaints concerning the current text of the proposal? Very well, then. This will probably be submitted in a few hours if y'all still have no concerns.
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Postby McMasterdonia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:03 am

Condemn the amount of pink and the hailing too, while you're at it. :D

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:14 pm

McMasterdonia wrote:Condemn the amount of pink and the hailing too, while you're at it. :D

Haha, yes, but Fail-igarchy is dealing with the pink and it appears that the Governmental all-hailing is taking place of their own accord rather than "Yuno made me do it!"

As a result, Condemn QY is Proposal-A-Go-Go.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:04 pm

Sure, give TEP all the badges :lol:
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Postby Consular » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:49 am

Xoriet wrote:It's not Yuno's fault that Cosmopolitans have been unreliable in government positions and have soured TEP's opinion. We've had multiple Cosmos in government leave for positions in other regional governments or watch them languish in inactivity in their own roles because of Cosmopolitan status. I don't see how it's so unreasonable that we might want to take a stand on that. The Concordat didn't allow for restrictions on those with citizenship, so we did what we believed was best for TEP in the future. If you want to Condemn Yuno for doing what she thought was best for the region, so be it.

Isn't Yuno basically the most cosmopolitan player in the game?

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Postby Solorni » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:52 am

McMasterdonia wrote:Condemn the amount of pink ....

You can never have enough pink...
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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:22 am

Consular wrote:
Xoriet wrote:It's not Yuno's fault that Cosmopolitans have been unreliable in government positions and have soured TEP's opinion. We've had multiple Cosmos in government leave for positions in other regional governments or watch them languish in inactivity in their own roles because of Cosmopolitan status. I don't see how it's so unreasonable that we might want to take a stand on that. The Concordat didn't allow for restrictions on those with citizenship, so we did what we believed was best for TEP in the future. If you want to Condemn Yuno for doing what she thought was best for the region, so be it.

Isn't Yuno basically the most cosmopolitan player in the game?

Yuno actually stays to the GCRs mostly, so she's pretty much a feederite/sinkerite. Not sure if that counts as a cosmopolitan in the sense TEP is using *shrugs*
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Postby Consular » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:18 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Consular wrote:Isn't Yuno basically the most cosmopolitan player in the game?

Yuno actually stays to the GCRs mostly, so she's pretty much a feederite/sinkerite. Not sure if that counts as a cosmopolitan in the sense TEP is using *shrugs*

Still cosmopolitan af. But people twist definitions to all sorts of ridiculous meanings in this game so who knows

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:27 am

Speaking as a player and not as a mod, I don't like the formatting of the submitted draft. Yuno deserves better.

Speaking as a mod and not as a player, I'm not 100% sure this is legal. How does "Francoist" not violate 4(a)?

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Postby Helseth » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:55 am

Wrapper wrote:Speaking as a player and not as a mod, I don't like the formatting of the submitted draft. Yuno deserves better.

Speaking as a mod and not as a player, I'm not 100% sure this is legal. How does "Francoist" not violate 4(a)?


It's not a reference to Francisco Franco. It's a person/nation that adheres to Francoist idealogy named after the Nation, Francos Spain.
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:12 am

Helseth wrote:
Wrapper wrote:Speaking as a player and not as a mod, I don't like the formatting of the submitted draft. Yuno deserves better.

Speaking as a mod and not as a player, I'm not 100% sure this is legal. How does "Francoist" not violate 4(a)?


It's not a reference to Francisco Franco. It's a person/nation that adheres to Francoist idealogy named after the Nation, Francos Spain.

Fair point, enough to make it legal.

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